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    Announcement Thread:

    I'm not intending this as an advertisement for our product, but let's just call this a pseudo-coop's corner. I think everyone can benefit from reading this writeup. Click on the references (in the brackets) and check out each source, then hit me with questions as you have them.

    The bottom line is that all proteins are not necessarily created equal, and a lot of this is very recent data (past year or two).

    PES select

    Cliffs:


    -Blend > whey or casein alone
    -The international protein conference deemed a 50/50 whey/casein blend (as in Select Protein) the optimal combination for building LBM
    -Milk protein isolate is the best protein source for LBM gain
    -The quality of whey can vary greatly, with WPC80 being the gold standard
    -The leucine content of a meal largely determines the muscle protein synthesis response. Adding leucine to protein to hit the threshold leucine dose is of great value, especially when the leucine is peptide-bound to more closely match the kinetics of the protein itself
    -And one that surprised me: whey is incredibly insulinogenic...moreso than sugars and other "bad" foods that people avoid like the plague. This insulin response is mitigated tremendously by consuming a blend


  2. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I'm not intending this as an advertisement for our product, but let's just call this a pseudo-coop's corner. I think everyone can benefit from reading this writeup. Click on the references (in the brackets) and check out each source, then hit me with questions as you have them.

    The bottom line is that all proteins are not necessarily created equal, and a lot of this is very recent data (past year or two).

    PES select

    Cliffs:

    -Blend > whey or casein alone
    -The international protein conference deemed a 50/50 whey/casein blend (as in Select Protein) the optimal combination for building LBM
    -Milk protein isolate is the best protein source for LBM gain
    -The quality of whey can vary greatly, with WPC80 being the gold standard
    -The leucine content of a meal largely determines the muscle protein synthesis response. Adding leucine to protein to hit the threshold leucine dose is of great value, especially when the leucine is peptide-bound to more closely match the kinetics of the protein itself
    -And one that surprised me: whey is incredibly insulinogenic...moreso than sugars and other "bad" foods that people avoid like the plague. This insulin response is mitigated tremendously by consuming a blend
    I love it coop

    But why about those who don't handle lactose well

    You add any digestive enzymes or probiotics?

    I generally eat my food and not drink it.

    But I'm willing to try this for sure. Just worried about my stomach

    How do you suggest it?

    Would you say with the inclusion of the peptform leucine that inbetween meals would be best to spike mps. Instead of aminos?
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    Great and detailed write up Cooper.
    Cannot wait to start baking and cooking with the Select.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    I love it coop

    But why about those who don't handle lactose well

    You add any digestive enzymes or probiotics?

    I generally eat my food and not drink it.

    But I'm willing to try this for sure. Just worried about my stomach

    How do you suggest it?

    Would you say with the inclusion of the peptform leucine that inbetween meals would be best to spike mps. Instead of aminos?
    There is LESS than 1g of carbs per scoop. Remember, this is mostly isolate. But yes, lactase has been added even to deal with that < 1g of lactose per serving

  5. And what about inbetween meal shakes? Similar to what layne does with his aminos?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    And what about inbetween meal shakes? Similar to what layne does with his aminos?
    This would be your choice protein for that since it spikes leucine levels

  7. Good stuff here coop!
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  8. Very informative and another great write up Coop.
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  9. Mod request: can we have this moved to the PES section?

    Thanks!

  10. Loving this makes me want my protein even more good notes Coop as usual.

  11. Good write up coop. I am excited.

  12. Cooper did all of the research behind this formula, as well as all the science of the writeup. Lots of hard work went into this beast!
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  13. He also decided snickerdoodle needed to be our 3rd flavor. So after you try it and scream for joy at its amazing taste, send him a PM to tell him how much you love him
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    He also decided snickerdoodle needed to be our 3rd flavor. So after you try it and scream for joy at its amazing taste, send him a PM to tell him how much you love him
    So he's the one that decided there would be no blueberry muffin protein powder?


    Remind me to neg him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Cooper did all of the research behind this formula, as well as all the science of the writeup. Lots of hard work went into this beast!
    Dude is a pure genius. Meeting him in person the guy is so focused on his work. Ever see this guy study? You dont want to interupt him or he will eat your hand off.

    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    He also decided snickerdoodle needed to be our 3rd flavor. So after you try it and scream for joy at its amazing taste, send him a PM to tell him how much you love him
    ^^^ You know its going to be killer.
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  16. So would this be better for bridging meals to increase MPS than amino IV?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    You dont want to interupt him or he will eat your hand off.
    that kind reminding me of brotato on meal time
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  18. Can't wait to get feedback on their protein. I know it's gonna be the shizzle!!!!

    Thanks for the write-up Coop!

  19. Good read coop!

  20. I love threads made by Cyrus.
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  21. coop is also part in the model show for protein? this time only you deciding no go with the sarong
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  22. nice little write up!!

  23. Has Glanbia ever released any data to show that PepForm is more effective than leucine on its own?

    At 40% leucine, and the cost of PepForm, you could put in the same weight of leucine as PepForm, have 2.5x as much added leucine, and be significantly cheaper.

    So is PepForm going to be absorbed at 2.5x the rate of straight leucine?
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  24. snickerdoodle cookies are awesome, so its pretty neat to see it as a protein flavor.
    doing my own thang!
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    snickerdoodle cookies are awesome, so its pretty neat to see it as a protein flavor.
    Coming soon from Chef Bob's kitchen.
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  26. Sippin on some doodle right now...
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Sippin on some doodle right now...
    Jealous. Never had an actual snickerdoodle before. From what I understand it's a sugar cookie with cinnamon? I love cinnamon. Can you describe the taste in any more detail?
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    sipping. hell i have not had a shake in like a year. Lets talk cooking!
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by TeamMetal. View Post
    Jealous. Never had an actual snickerdoodle before. From what I understand it's a sugar cookie with cinnamon? I love cinnamon. Can you describe the taste in any more detail?
    Its like a cinnamon roll except better. It is indeed a sugar cookie with cinnamon

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  30. cooper for Prez
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