Now that Craze and Detonate are gone. What to use now?
- 12-01-2013, 01:25 AM
Now that Craze and Detonate are gone. What to use now?
Since I can OD on caffiene and buy cancer sticks (cigarettes) by the case box and these are still legal yetand are pretty much toast, I am curious what other freedom of choices I now have.
What supplements would you recommend to replace these effective supplements?
- 12-01-2013, 01:30 AM
12-01-2013, 02:03 AM
But let's focus on progress and solutions rather than forum one up man-ship.
I am much more interested in some anecdotal evidence from a N>10 if at all possible to my question.
So again, What supplements would you recommend to replace these effective supplements?
(Feel free to reasonable access the risks associated with a conservative application of any of them)
And no, cocaine and meth from the corner dealer is not what I'm talking about although humorous jokes I'm sure.
Thank you for any positive supplement experiences and recommendations.
12-01-2013, 02:32 AM
A few products I've used and like focus/energy wise:
Uncut (+bronchodilation and strength boosts as well)
Stimul8 (+powerful thermogenic effect, very strong stim)
That might be it, there are a few others I use but those are gonna be the best for stims/focus IME.
12-01-2013, 02:40 AM
12-01-2013, 04:26 AM
I would forego all of these overpriced, artificial laden PWO's. Just purchase the bulk ingredients that you feel are necessary to achieve your goals i.e. creatine, caffeine, citrulline. For what it's worth, I have used hemavol in caplet form and thought it was very effective. Also, uncut has recently caught my attention. I have not tried it yet; but soon
12-01-2013, 05:20 AM
12-01-2013, 05:55 AM
Stimul8 will be the closest match-up I see as being best fit. Or, you could op tfor the bulk route as was suggested and get bulk Caffeine, Yohimbine 2.5 , Agmatine, Cit Mal etc. and construct your own with some flavouring if you so wish.
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12-01-2013, 09:31 AM
I also enjoyed craze. Was my #1 pre. Lately I've tried JBT Labs Anabolic FX & APS Mesomorph. Both are very good.
12-01-2013, 09:35 AM
Uncut's warning label @ nutraplanet: Warning: Due to rapid strength gains of 25-50 lbs. on each major lift, muscular strength may outpace tendon strength- use accordingly
12-01-2013, 04:21 PM
12-03-2013, 11:01 PM
12-03-2013, 11:38 PM
You'd be hard pressed to find anything out there that offers a comparable "feel" with respect to those two products. LIV (AEN) is a viable alternative, especially at two caps, which offers a similar feel (though not as intense) as those two products mentioned.
12-04-2013, 01:04 AM
Im beginning to believe the good majority of members are "addicted" to supplements and just need "something " to work out
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12-04-2013, 01:39 AM
All I know is that I want more craze, it mixes great with some focus XT.
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12-04-2013, 04:58 PM
hard to replace those 2 given the compounds that were found in them lol. I used craze and liked it; still have a sealed tub lying around here somewhere
If you're a stim junkie, I'd say Game Day or stimul8, maybe a pre with 1,3 if you can find a good one. Synedrex was good as far as a fat burner goes, since it sounds like you just want stims above all else.
Adding caffeine free Focus XT to a good stim never hurts either
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12-04-2013, 09:00 PM
Find something that fits your needs. You probably won't find something "similar".
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12-05-2013, 10:48 AM
I've combined 1 scoop of Focus -XT , 1 cap of UNCUT and 2 grams of SNS Gllucuronolactone and 1 heaping scoop of
Hemavol and this worked out very well for focus, energy and pump.
12-05-2013, 11:27 AM
Fierce Domination is one of my favorite pre-workouts out, but give up on finding something similar to illegal products.
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12-05-2013, 02:47 PM
I tend to have a cough this time of year. So I prefer bronkaid mixed with analyzed supplements GMS and Agmatine, plus a cup of coffee. The three together are cheap and will get you moving.
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12-05-2013, 03:07 PM
12-05-2013, 04:41 PM
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12-09-2013, 08:58 PM
A buddy gave me some craze a couple of months ago. I really wasn't impressed at all.
My GoTo preworkout is Gameday. I fell in love with it many months ago. I also enjoy Volatle. Gameday is the Fire though, and very diverse. Take some for lifting, cardio, crossfit, or whatever.
12-09-2013, 09:24 PM
I was a long time craze user. I tried many other pre's and nothing came close to it. Recently I've been turned on to APS Mesomorph. If your looking for focus... this stuff is amazing. Definitely worth trying.
12-09-2013, 09:27 PM
12-10-2013, 09:56 AM
12-10-2013, 10:29 AM
Nice to see the mention of Focus Xt, it is top notch for that mental aspect a lot of people look for in a pre.
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