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    Question Now that Craze and Detonate are gone. What to use now?


    Since I can OD on caffiene and buy cancer sticks (cigarettes) by the case box and these are still legal yet CRAZE and Detonate are pretty much toast, I am curious what other freedom of choices I now have.

    What supplements would you recommend to replace these effective supplements?

    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BondJamesBond View Post
    Since I can OD on caffiene and buy cancer sticks (cigarettes) by the case box and these are still legal yet CRAZE and Detonate are pretty much toast, I am curious what other freedom of choices I now have.

    What supplements would you recommend to replace these effective supplements?

    Thank you.
    JB
    You're upset that you can buy cigarettes (which have a warning label on the box) but you cant buy supplements with unlabeled amphetamine analogs? Seems logical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    You're upset that you can buy cigarettes (which have a warning label on the box) but you cant buy supplements with unlabeled amphetamine analogs? Seems logical.
    Fair point as the particular undisclosed compound in question has little clinical data like most of all the supplements on the market. If I read the warning label of any of these "stimulant" analogue or any other categories of supplements, I wouldn't take any of them more than likely. But one can intelligently start small and reasonable and fine tune the right dosage for a few days a week to improve workouts. I'm willing to take reasonable risk. I find boxing, MMA, auto racing, football and I can go on, pose a higher risk to my health then a sensible use of any effective stimulate "analogue" (the stimulant caffeine included) in many respects. My health and my risk, but yes, not disclosing the compound if known is clearly a deceptive, illegal behavior. I will venture to guess my health is improved by sensible use of many of these compounds as my annual physical no doubt attests to. In addition, I fully comply with the laws of the USA rather I agree with them all or not.

    But let's focus on progress and solutions rather than forum one up man-ship.

    I am much more interested in some anecdotal evidence from a N>10 if at all possible to my question.

    So again, What supplements would you recommend to replace these effective supplements?
    (Feel free to reasonable access the risks associated with a conservative application of any of them)

    And no, cocaine and meth from the corner dealer is not what I'm talking about although humorous jokes I'm sure.

    Thank you for any positive supplement experiences and recommendations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BondJamesBond View Post

    Fair point as the particular undisclosed compound in question has little clinical data like most of all the supplements on the market. If I read the warning label of any of these "stimulant" analogue or any other categories of supplements, I wouldn't take any of them more than likely. But one can intelligently start small and reasonable and fine tune the right dosage for a few days a week to improve workouts. I'm willing to take reasonable risk. I find boxing, MMA, auto racing, football and I can go on, pose a higher risk to my health then a sensible use of any effective stimulate "analogue" (the stimulant caffeine included) in many respects. My health and my risk, but yes, not disclosing the compound if known is clearly a deceptive, illegal behavior. I will venture to guess my health is improved by sensible use of many of these compounds as my annual physical no doubt attests to. In addition, I fully comply with the laws of the USA rather I agree with them all or not.

    But let's focus on progress and solutions rather than forum one up man-ship.

    I am much more interested in some anecdotal evidence from a N>10 if at all possible to my question.

    So again, What supplements would you recommend to replace these effective supplements?
    (Feel free to reasonable access the risks associated with a conservative application of any of them)

    And no, cocaine and meth from the corner dealer is not what I'm talking about although humorous jokes I'm sure.

    Thank you for any positive supplement experiences and recommendations.
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    A few products I've used and like focus/energy wise:

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    Stimul8 (+powerful thermogenic effect, very strong stim)


    That might be it, there are a few others I use but those are gonna be the best for stims/focus IME.
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    I would forego all of these overpriced, artificial laden PWO's. Just purchase the bulk ingredients that you feel are necessary to achieve your goals i.e. creatine, caffeine, citrulline. For what it's worth, I have used hemavol in caplet form and thought it was very effective. Also, uncut has recently caught my attention. I have not tried it yet; but soon
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    Craze is still available on DS UK site. Anyone know if it's the same formulation?
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    Stimul8 will be the closest match-up I see as being best fit. Or, you could op tfor the bulk route as was suggested and get bulk Caffeine, Yohimbine 2.5 , Agmatine, Cit Mal etc. and construct your own with some flavouring if you so wish.
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    I also enjoyed craze. Was my #1 pre. Lately I've tried JBT Labs Anabolic FX & APS Mesomorph. Both are very good.
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    Focus XT is definitely a viable alternative to Craze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    Focus XT is definitely a viable alternative to Craze.
    I've never used craze but can vouch for the mental sharpness I tend to get after taking fxt.
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    You'd be hard pressed to find anything out there that offers a comparable "feel" with respect to those two products. LIV (AEN) is a viable alternative, especially at two caps, which offers a similar feel (though not as intense) as those two products mentioned.
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    Im beginning to believe the good majority of members are "addicted" to supplements and just need "something " to work out

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    All I know is that I want more craze, it mixes great with some focus XT.
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    hard to replace those 2 given the compounds that were found in them lol. I used craze and liked it; still have a sealed tub lying around here somewhere

    If you're a stim junkie, I'd say Game Day or stimul8, maybe a pre with 1,3 if you can find a good one. Synedrex was good as far as a fat burner goes, since it sounds like you just want stims above all else.

    Adding caffeine free Focus XT to a good stim never hurts either
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    I miss original jacked3d. Currently using focus xt by Sns and Its pretty Damn good
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    Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
    I miss original jacked3d. Currently using focus xt by Sns and Its pretty Damn good
    What flavour did you get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post

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    A buddy gave me some craze a couple of months ago. I really wasn't impressed at all.
    My GoTo preworkout is Gameday. I fell in love with it many months ago. I also enjoy Volatle. Gameday is the Fire though, and very diverse. Take some for lifting, cardio, crossfit, or whatever.
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    I was a long time craze user. I tried many other pre's and nothing came close to it. Recently I've been turned on to APS Mesomorph. If your looking for focus... this stuff is amazing. Definitely worth trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino67jg View Post
    I was a long time craze user. I tried many other pre's and nothing came close to it. Recently I've been turned on to APS Mesomorph. If your looking for focus... this stuff is amazing. Definitely worth trying.
    I remember using the old Mesomorph which was GREAT. Then they reformulated and it just wasn't as good as the OG from what I can recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post

    I remember using the old Mesomorph which was GREAT. Then they reformulated and it just wasn't as good as the OG from what I can recall.
    I just happened upon a tub that I believe is that version you're speaking of...still lists icariin in the formula. I so excite!!
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    Nice to see the mention of Focus Xt, it is top notch for that mental aspect a lot of people look for in a pre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    I just happened upon a tub that I believe is that version you're speaking of...still lists icariin in the formula. I so excite!!
    That's the one! It was pretty spectacular. Had great workouts with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post

    That's the one! It was pretty spectacular. Had great workouts with it.
    Same here, used a few tubs of it couple years back...super excited. I believe I read elsewhere that meso is totally being discontinued...or at the very least reformulated without the 1,3...we shall see..
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    Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    Same here, used a few tubs of it couple years back...super excited. I believe I read elsewhere that meso is totally being discontinued...or at the very least reformulated without the 1,3...we shall see..
    They still sell the old formula with the icariin and 1,3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    They still sell the old formula with the icariin and 1,3?
    ^^^this!

    Focus XT is nothing like craze or detonate. For me anyways. Focus gives me bad **** squirts and does nothing for me unfortunately.
    I couldn't even give away my tubs :/

    Uncut is the only one similar. Legit
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post

    They still sell the old formula with the icariin and 1,3?
    Ah, nope...I just have great friends that didn't care for it and has a sealed tub..
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    Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    Ah, nope...I just have great friends that didn't care for it and has a sealed tub..
    Yeah, that was a great preworkout. Not sure why some companies formulate a popular and effective product, then decide to change the formula for the worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Yeah, that was a great preworkout. Not sure why some companies formulate a popular and effective product, then decide to change up the label for the worst.
    Im sure they changed because of the creatine nitrate

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Im sure they changed because of the creatine nitrate
    The second formula still contained CN, but they removed the icariin. I remember the pump (which was amazing) not being nearly the same and the stim felt different. I'd read a few stories that it may have been spiked, thus the formula change. Not sure how factual that was, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BondJamesBond View Post
    Since I can OD on caffiene and buy cancer sticks (cigarettes) by the case box and these are still legal yet CRAZE and Detonate are pretty much toast, I am curious what other freedom of choices I now have.

    What supplements would you recommend to replace these effective supplements?

    Thank you.
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