Supps for Heart Health

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  1. Supps for Heart Health


    Title says it all, besides not eating like garbage and training properly, what can someone take to improve heart health?

    And, what dosages would be effective and can be dosed on a daily basis for years on end without adverse side effects?


    Note: I swear to God, any iForce minion that posts in this thread WILL be negged to oblivion, and will be negged on sight anytime afterwards on this forum.


  2. I was taking Ubiquinol for a while, supposedly it is great for your heart health.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    any iForce minion that posts in this thread WILL be negged to oblivion, and will be negged on sight anytime afterwards on this forum.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I was taking Ubiquinol for a while, supposedly it is great for your heart health.
    At what dose?

    Isn't that similar to CoQ10 as well?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post

    Bro, the constant shilling annoys me and literally helps no one on this forum.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    At what dose?

    Isn't that similar to CoQ10 as well?

    I was taking 200mg once a day with a fat containing meal. It's what CoQ10 has to convert to in the body. As you age your body has more trouble converting the CoQ10 into Ubiquinol. That's my limited understanding anyway.

  7. Ubiquinol, policosanol, EFAs

    BP control (chronic, not acute) is just as important as well.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Ubiquinol, policosanol, EFAs

    BP control (chronic, not acute) is just as important as well.
    BP control is also part of what I'm asking about, anything besides controlling sodium intake and drinking enough fluids? (Hawthorne berry does this I believe, but can that be used non stop?)

    Nitrates maybe? Can that be dosed daily, year round?

  9. Sodium actually has been shown to have zero effect on BP. It sounded good in theory, but didn't pan out. As far as nitrates go, I'm not sure. They'll help with BP, but NO is a pro-oxidant.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Sodium actually has been shown to have zero effect on BP. It sounded good in theory, but didn't pan out. As far as nitrates go, I'm not sure. They'll help with BP, but NO is a pro-oxidant.
    So what would you do to control BP?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    So what would you do to control BP?
    LISS, garlic extract, celery seed extract, hawthorn.
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  12. I believe Agmatine can help with BP also. I'm not sure how significantly though.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post

    LISS, garlic extract, celery seed extract, hawthorn.
    Hawthorne and celery seed at what dose? 200mg?

  14. I remember a thread or two in the advanced discussion regarding multiple health effects from ubiquinol. Not sure if BP was mentioned or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    BP control is also part of what I'm asking about, anything besides controlling sodium intake and drinking enough fluids? (Hawthorne berry does this I believe, but can that be used non stop?)

    Nitrates maybe? Can that be dosed daily, year round?
    Low dose cialis daily works very well. So does potassium nitrate (consumed daily concurrently with 500mg ascorbic acid).

    So does cardio!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Hawthorne and celery seed at what dose? 200mg?
    The bang for the buck is very overrated IME

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    LISS, garlic extract, celery seed extract, hawthorn.
    Agreed.

    And how come nobody has mentioned cayenne? Right up there with garlic and hawthorn!!!

    Add...turmeric, lecithin, and a quality EPA/DHA blend (like Barlean's)....
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    Quote Originally Posted by methusaleh View Post
    Agreed.

    And how come nobody has mentioned cayenne? Right up there with garlic and hawthorn!!!

    Add...turmeric, lecithin, and a quality EPA/DHA blend (like Barlean's)....
    When you add up all the costs why not just get a heart transplant and bill your insurance. The deductible and co-pays will be cheaper in the long run.

    This phenomenon is so common on the boards - $20 vial of testosterone and $300 of ancillaries.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    When you add up all the costs why not just get a heart transplant and bill your insurance. The deductible and co-pays will be cheaper in the long run.

    This phenomenon is so common on the boards - $20 vial of testosterone and $300 of ancillaries.
    Yeah, I'm not trying to do all that.

    I just want something (a couple different single ingredients maybe) I can take year round for health benefits, and not go broke lol.
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    IMO and IMPE Cialis @5-10mg/d and 1.6g potassium nitrate had me at 117/63 while on some notoriously BP debilitating compounds. I was very happy to discover this. Of course EFA, FO, MCT etc are all healthy staples.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    IMO and IME Cialis @5-10mg/d and 1.6g potassium nitrate had me at 117/63 while on some notoriously BP debilitating compounds. I was very happy to discover this. Of course EFA, FO, MCT etc are all healthy staples.
    Yeah, but isn't cialis a Rx drug?

    I'm not sure I could convince a doctor that I have ED at 21 lol.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Yeah, but isn't cialis a Rx drug? I'm not sure I could convince a doctor that I have ED at 21 lol.
    There are other methods of acquiring it. It's as ubiquitous on RC sites as anything else.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post

    There are other methods of acquiring it. It's as ubiquitous on RC sites as anything else.
    Is that something thats safe to take for extended periods of time?

    My BP is, and has always been, pretty high. (135/90 is the norm) So I'm definitely interested in ways to keep it lower besides what I already do.

  24. Well, Cialis is approved for daily use by the FDA (whatever that's worth).
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Well, Cialis is approved for daily use by the FDA (whatever that's worth).
    Not a lot lol.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Is that something thats safe to take for extended periods of time?
    Cialis is a doctor prescribed medicine that has been prescribed for daily use for years. There are billions of dollars invested in research. It also gives a good pump in the gym.

    Potassium Nitrate - the issue to be concerned about is the conversion to the potential carcinogenic nitrosamine. This is why the concurrent consumption of the antioxidants ascorbic acid and NAC.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20100056
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18344201

  27. I prefer celery seed extract of CO Q10 over the long term due to the cost/benefits but then again I would go with a $4 rx for long term use

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  28. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    IMO and IMPE Cialis @5-10mg/d and 1.6g potassium nitrate had me at 117/63 while on some notoriously BP debilitating compounds. I was very happy to discover this. Of course EFA, FO, MCT etc are all healthy staples.
    most people fail to realize that viagra was initially used to lower blood pressure and treat angina....and cialis is just a better version of viagra. Of course the "side effect" of raging hard-ons was way more marketable and profitable....so now they are ED meds

  29. CoQ10 (ubiquinone, not ubiquinol)
    Garlic
    Berberine
    EPA/DHA
    Betaine anhydrous
    Green Tea Extract
    Niacin
    COP
    PLCAR

  30. IForce Heart Help is the way to go!! I kid I kid.

    I like Coops list but I would include Nitrates in there somewhere. And after having discussed Niacin with Benson on another board, I wouldn't touch the stuff lol.
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