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    Any validity to the belief that potassium nitrate lowers libido? I certainly don't want to mess with anything that may.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Any validity to the belief that potassium nitrate lowers libido? I certainly don't want to mess with anything that may.
    Thats news for me
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    Cant say nitrates have had anything but positive effects on my libido- agmatine as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by srocco112 View Post
    Thats news for me
    A quick Google search pulls up a bunch of articles stating that doctors used to prescribe this to patients with over active libidos and an equal number of threads concerned if this will happen. There isn't a lot out there on the benefits for the gym, other than a couple on BB and the ones related to Iforce. Without any real information seemingly available other than it will give pumps, I wasn't sure of sides and any legit sources to research this from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Any validity to the belief that potassium nitrate lowers libido? I certainly don't want to mess with anything that may.
    I assume because it used to be referred to as Salt Peter?

    I have found nothing that would support it lowering libido. but if there is something - someone on this forum will find it.
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    Some may like that, so I don't think that was the reason.
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    agmatine, cit mal, and betaine would be a great combo
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    Quote Originally Posted by srocco112 View Post
    What is a good product to use, other than an actual kitchen sink pre workout, that you can dose pre-workout to enhance bloodflow and pump? And thay also can be taken long term as a pre staple.

    Im thinking creatine and aakg?
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    Anyone have a reccomendation on how to dose the potassium nitrate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by srocco112 View Post
    Anyone have a reccomendation on how to dose the potassium nitrate?
    I would suggest an advanced word search under user name "David Dunn" and keyword "potassium".
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    Quote Originally Posted by srocco112 View Post
    Anyone have a reccomendation on how to dose the potassium nitrate?
    start with 2 caps of potassium nitrate and work your way up to 3 or even 4 if you feel it's needed, find the sweet spot for you and continue taking that amount
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    L-Arginine or USPlabs Yok3d, it has L-Aginine in it along with other ingredients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcslick View Post
    L-Arginine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post

    start with 2 caps of potassium nitrate and work your way up to 3 or even 4 if you feel it's needed, find the sweet spot for you and continue taking that amount
    Your refering to dosing pre workout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by srocco112 View Post
    Your refering to dosing pre workout?
    yeah, make sure your dosing 45-60 minutes pre workout, i know with many pre workout drinks they say a half hour but it doesn't make a huge difference, but my experience with potassium nitrate is that you really do need that time frame to get the best results

    i have played with potassium nitrate at other times throughout the day yet
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    Max Pump, is great. After 4-5 days the pump becomes pretty much all day long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Max Pump, is great. After 4-5 days the pump becomes pretty much all day long.
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    Going to agree here as well ^^^^. My favorite pump product hands down.

    High Volume is great as well.
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    Started today with 1 gram agmatine, 3 caps of kno3, a scoop or creatine, and 1 cap reduce xt at 9am. 930 had a banana and some avocado, 945 was starting in the gym.

    I felt a little tighter than usually but nothing crazy. How long does it take to begin feeling the crazy pumps everyone speaks of? And is it ok to eat a little something after or should i eat befote dosing. I go to the gym in the am
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    Quote Originally Posted by srocco112 View Post
    Started today with 1 gram agmatine, 3 caps of kno3, a scoop or creatine, and 1 cap reduce xt at 9am. 930 had a banana and some avocado, 945 was starting in the gym.

    I felt a little tighter than usually but nothing crazy. How long does it take to begin feeling the crazy pumps everyone speaks of? And is it ok to eat a little something after or should i eat befote dosing. I go to the gym in the am
    You should feel the pumps pretty much from the first day. I dose Kno3 and Agmatine about 45 minutes pre wo. I would say its most prevalent on days I would arms and shoulder

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    High Volume and Hemavol are my go to products for pumps.

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    I felt it the first day about 45 min after I took it and hit the gym.
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    So if i work out first thing in the morng is it best to eat a little.something before i dose, after, or just not until after the gym
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    High Volume and Hemavol are my go to products for pumps.

    X-Factor/arachidonic acid is also a strong contender and currently on sale for under $30 at NP!
    X-Factor + Hemavol.. best ever imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srocco112 View Post
    So if i work out first thing in the morng is it best to eat a little.something before i dose, after, or just not until after the gym
    It'd be a good idea to ingest an EAA mix like Amino IV. It also has verbascoside which can further augment pumps
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    You should feel the pumps pretty much from the first day. I dose Kno3 and Agmatine about 45 minutes pre wo. I would say its most prevalent on days I would arms and shoulder
    I don't have much experience with KNO3, but Agmatine has always been very noticeable on leg days as well.

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    Hemavol and or Potassium Nitrate is good for the pumps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    X-Factor + Hemavol.. best ever imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    Fully agreed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkgreene88 View Post
    I am going to have to try this
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    Does the agmatine/kno3 have any effects on erection quality at all?
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    Some will say it does, but I have not experienced that and there isn't any evidence that I have researched to show it would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srocco112 View Post
    Does the agmatine/kno3 have any effects on erection quality at all?
    I've used agamtine and theanine before sex and it's pretty fun.
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    Citrulline has a definite effect if you are after that. They have done studies showing the improvement in erection quality and as an alternative to cialis/viagra. Bonus is a killer pump and endurance. I had it in my PN agmatine stack and ran out, but didn't buy more because the PN endurance was more than enough. After a couple weeks now, I do realize how much impact it had on erection strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Citrulline has a definite effect if you are after that. They have done studies showing the improvement in erection quality and as an alternative to cialis/viagra. Bonus is a killer pump and endurance. I had it in my PN agmatine stack and ran out, but didn't buy more because the PN endurance was more than enough. After a couple weeks now, I do realize how much impact it had on erection strength.
    This.... I noticed the effects more so when I ran out of cit mal... I just hate how its so chalky
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