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    Focus XT has always been my favorite. Nice energy of course from the 200mg of caffeine, but the acute (and more importantly, prolonged) effects on focus and mind-muscle connection are superb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrellt67 View Post
    Just out of curiosity, would taking it with something like almond milk allow you to get the benefits of each ingredient since it provides calories and fat (to help with absorbing the vinpocetine) but very little protein (which reduces the potential for the L-tyrosine competing against other amino acids)?
    That option is viable for sure dose with b6 (p5p) or folic acid to enhance absorption.

    I know there are multiple amino acid transporters but I am not versed enough on them to tell whether or not there is competition.

    Curious though, if consuming something as a whole protein (i.e. a meal then consuming FXT) would impact L-Tyrosine absorption considering that is already in amino form whereas the protein would have to be cleaved before releasing amino acids into the blood stream and competing for absorption.

    I.e. L-tyrosine would already be absorbed before the protein from the meal impacted absorption; or is my guess off base?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    That option is viable for sure dose with b6 (p5p) or folic acid to enhance absorption.

    I know there are multiple amino acid transporters but I am not versed enough on them to tell whether or not there is competition.

    Curious though, if consuming something as a whole protein (i.e. a meal then consuming FXT) would impact L-Tyrosine absorption considering that is already in amino form whereas the protein would have to be cleaved before releasing amino acids into the blood stream and competing for absorption.

    I.e. L-tyrosine would already be absorbed before the protein from the meal impacted absorption; or is my guess off base?
    You make a very good point. Maybe that's the key to taking it such that all the ingrediants are utilized. As you mentioned, if it's taken immediately after a meal then that might be too soon to affect l-tyosine absorption but would also provide food to optimize vinpocetine absorption. That sounds like a good plan to me but my knowledge on the matter is insufficient to say whether that would really work or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrellt67 View Post
    You make a very good point. Maybe that's the key to taking it such that all the ingrediants are utilized. As you mentioned, if it's taken immediately after a meal then that might be too soon to affect l-tyosine absorption but would also provide food to optimize vinpocetine absorption. That sounds like a good plan to me but my knowledge on the matter is insufficient to say whether that would really work or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrellt67 View Post
    You make a very good point. Maybe that's the key to taking it such that all the ingrediants are utilized. As you mentioned, if it's taken immediately after a meal then that might be too soon to affect l-tyosine absorption but would also provide food to optimize vinpocetine absorption. That sounds like a good plan to me but my knowledge on the matter is insufficient to say whether that would really work or not.
    Likewise. This may be a question for @Synapsin or @De__eB
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    I posted in another thread how it didnt match up to focus XT formula wise.

    Compare the two ingredient panels for yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post

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    My pre workout/ stack at the moment. Loving it


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    For Focus, Gameday or Volatile. I am not recommending Gameday just because I am a rep either, I was hooked on it long before. These 2 are definitely worth trying.
    For non-stim, I would just use bulk Citrulline, creatine, and agmatine. Possibly throw in some Betaine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    My pre workout/ stack at the moment. Loving it


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    Dat stack!

    Now try arranging it with Forskolin on the bottom. That takes serious skill
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    I second and third Focus XT but I preferred the caffeine free version since I attacked it with another pwo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
    Dat stack! Now try arranging it with Forskolin on the bottom. That takes serious skill
    Lmao! Ima try it just for the hell of it.

    Yea this stack is awesome. Maybe add some Alcar and it's golden
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrellt67 View Post
    Since there seems to be a few Focus XT experts in here, I was wondering if someone could answer a question I have with regard to its use. Most recommend that it be taken on an empty stomach. However, wouldn't that make the vinpocetine in it worthless since its absorption is very low on an empty stomach? If Focus XT is taken with food, then wouldn't that reduce the benefits of L-Tyrosine since it would be competing against other amino acids in your meal? I'm sure there's probably something I'm overlooking (or not familliar with), so any information would be appreciated.
    Best results are when its taken without food, but it shouldn't make a big difference either way.
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    I did actually feel a little bit "stimmed out" from Focus XT. Could've just been the thermic effect. But I had a solid/focused quick lift nonetheless.
    In your opinions, Focus XT solid as a stand alone pre workout or you recommend stacking it ? If so, then with what ? Thank guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikeNball View Post
    I did actually feel a little bit "stimmed out" from Focus XT. Could've just been the thermic effect. But I had a solid/focused quick lift nonetheless.
    In your opinions, Focus XT solid as a stand alone pre workout or you recommend stacking it ? If so, then with what ? Thank guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    Best results are when its taken without food, but it shouldn't make a big difference either way.
    It does seem like most of the items in the formula would work best on an empty stomach. So, I guess if you want to get the best results from most of the ingrediants then you should take it on an empty stomach and just not gain any benefits from the vinpocetine. It's still the best profile for a blend that I've seen (and I've looked at pretty much everything) even if you neglect the vinpocetine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
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