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Any recommendations on a good OTC supplement to help with relaxation?
Kava kava, 5-htp, L-theanine, and valerian root to name a few.Any recommendations on a good OTC supplement to help with relaxation?
for an every once in a while thing I like Kratomnatural.
SNS Phenibut XT or Picamillon 150Any recommendations on a good OTC supplement to help with relaxation?
:cheers:for an every once in a while thing I like Kratom
There are some that claim dependency issues with it I for one have never had a problem with it but I do not have an addictive personality. Tolerance builds really fast but if used sparingly yes one can feel "really good". Its not going to be on the same level as pharmaceuticals but it triggers a similar chemical response in the brain as opiates but in a much milder since its just a leaf that you make a tea out of.Is it possible to feel "really good" on kratom and if so what's the dosage? Has sparked my curiosity lately.
A good strain works really well but be super cautious.Is it possible to feel "really good" on kratom and if so what's the dosage? Has sparked my curiosity lately.
Agreed. 2-3 times per week was my limits.I've been using SNS Phenibut for a bit now. I used 1 cap before my interview today since it relaxes me pretty nicely. I took 3 caps last Friday and partied since I don't drink anymore. It was pretty fun, extremely relaxed and social. Kind of a tipsy feeling with coherent thoughts and clear speaking. It's easy to get dependent on so I try to limit how much I take it. Once a week mostly, twice tops
Where'd you get this from? If anything there's more danger of dependency from phenibut. In fact the phenibut dependency is factual whereas kratom isn't actually proven. Either way, moderation is key for either.Uhmm...it can be a pretty dangerous substance . I would not recommend
I agree Phenibut dependency is so very much worse. Kratom dependency does also exist though.Where'd you get this from? If anything there's more danger of dependency from phenibut. In fact the phenibut dependency is factual whereas kratom isn't actually proven. Either way, moderation is key for either.
I didn't think it was proven just hypothesized. I don't doubt it. I only tried it 2 timesI agree Phenibut dependency is so very much worse. Kratom dependency does also exist though.
You have got to be out of your mindI agree Phenibut dependency is so very much worse. Kratom dependency does also exist though.
I can only speak for myself and a number of others I know, but I'd say it exists. Doesn't ***** some stronger things of that nature (Rx's and what not), but will give you cold sweats and make give you that lovely restless leg syndrome/fatigue/malaise. Of course that isn't a RCT, but if one was undertaken for a decent amount of time with a consistent dosage it would show it. That clearly won't be done though.I didn't think it was proven just hypothesized. I don't doubt it. I only tried it 2 times
That phenibut is worse than Kratom in any aspectIn what respect?
I can only speak from my experience. As a younger, more brazen, and idiotic person, I have had the displeasure of taking both (and much worse unfortunately), to the limit.You have got to be out of your mind
Besides dependency issues Kratom 8s some bad stuff. I doubt its goibg to be available much longer
You will note in my first post I advocated that if one were going to use, to only use the whole leaf. Extracts are where things go VERY wrong and I absolutely don't recommend their use. I believe they are dangerous.Just cause phf is selling it doesn't make it ok- its dangerous stuff. I dont rec any taking it
Phenibut and agmatine usually make me feel chill and laid backSNS Phenibut XT or Picamillon 150
I do enjoy Kava, but you are spot on about the exact right strain and the right dose. It is difficult.I gotta mention this again... Good quality kava, in the right dose, feels like alcohol without the mental impairment or hangover.
You haven't looked into it very hard then. The ER visits from Kratom have risen dramatically with the method of treatment being the exact same as for opiate withdrawals.Since kratom gets your dopamine going there are going to be some dependency issues in people who are predisposed to being an addict but much like pot the amount that you would need to take for it to become dangerous is off the charts. Extracts are the same way. But since your body builds up its tolerance levels so quickly if you do become a daily user you are only taking it to take it, you dont get the "high" from it. And as far as withdrawals from kratom much like cigs after the first couple of days its all in your head I have never seen or heard about anyone having opiate like withdrawal sickness from it.
Method of treatment yes because they both go after dopamine but the severity is much less. I'm not saying it is harmless because at the end if the day it is a drug and any drug has the risk of abuse but kratom can provide a relaxation element when needed with about the same negative effects as its cousin the coffee plant. PS sorry if there are spelling errors this is coming from my phoneYou haven't looked into it very hard then. The ER visits from Kratom have risen dramatically with the method of treatment being the exact same as for opiate withdrawals.
There is a Kava bar in town that I've wanted to hit.I do enjoy Kava, but you are spot on about the exact right strain and the right dose. It is difficult.
Careful, the taste will put some hair on your nads!There is a Kava bar in town that I've wanted to hit.
Might swing by this weekend.
No doubt. Kratom is very dangerous on both a dependency and health level. I have spent a lot of time in SE Asia where Kratom is used heavily. These guys are not looking so well and are easy to spot due teeth issues and discoloring of skin and eyes. May cause liver toxicity and blood sugar issues also.You have got to be out of your mind
Besides dependency issues Kratom 8s some bad stuff. I doubt its goibg to be available much longer
I like ALRI Comatose before bed it will knock you outAny recommendations on a good OTC supplement to help with relaxation?
Where can you buy it anymore?,Tried phenibut yesterday and it was very calming.
SNS sells itWhere can you buy it anymore?,
I have seen others with rebound hyptertenison for 1,000-1500mg doses.I am curious if anyone complaining about withdrawal effects from Phenibut were taking larger than recommended doses. I spoke to a very knowledgeable doctor regarding phenibut and rebound hypertension at 500 mg to 1,500 mgs seems doubtful. Phenibut in the recommended dosage range should have very little impact on bp. My guess is someone having 7 days of withdrawal and severe rebound hypertension where taking some pretty hefty doses. I have read reports of people using as high as 12 grams at a single usage. The problem with phenibut again is that people with propensities to abuse drugs or alcohol should shy away from because those are the type that may start taking this daily at levels that could potentially result in withdrawal or rebound hypertension.
No you don't.... At least wait...YOU DO WUTSNS sells it
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