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    Thanks to all for the advice and input. Much appreciated.

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    I am curious if anyone complaining about withdrawal effects from Phenibut were taking larger than recommended doses. I spoke to a very knowledgeable doctor regarding phenibut and rebound hypertension at 500 mg to 1,500 mgs seems doubtful. Phenibut in the recommended dosage range should have very little impact on bp. My guess is someone having 7 days of withdrawal and severe rebound hypertension where taking some pretty hefty doses. I have read reports of people using as high as 12 grams at a single usage. The problem with phenibut again is that people with propensities to abuse drugs or alcohol should shy away from because those are the type that may start taking this daily at levels that could potentially result in withdrawal or rebound hypertension.
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    Okay, a fantastic combo that I used last night was 4 tablespoons of a high quality Fiji kava powder extracted into water with coconut oil. And I took a half teaspoon of phenibut. Excellent. Could not be bothered by anything.

    I DO have addictive tendencies. I'm fortunate, though, that I don't get physical withdrawal symptoms from anything. Your mileage may vary.
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    Diphenhydramine (active ingredient in Benadryl)

    Very cheap and works. Just get the knock-off brand stuff. Non-habit forming, and good to have on hand when you're sick.

    Can't remember if I've taken Phenibut, but I probably have. I tend to have an addictive personality so I'd be leery to try again.
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    Tried phenibut yesterday and it was very calming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegameoflife View Post
    Any recommendations on a good OTC supplement to help with relaxation?
    I like ALRI Comatose before bed it will knock you out
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    Tried phenibut yesterday and it was very calming.
    Where can you buy it anymore?,
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post

    Where can you buy it anymore?,
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    Quote Originally Posted by 996ttelise View Post
    I am curious if anyone complaining about withdrawal effects from Phenibut were taking larger than recommended doses. I spoke to a very knowledgeable doctor regarding phenibut and rebound hypertension at 500 mg to 1,500 mgs seems doubtful. Phenibut in the recommended dosage range should have very little impact on bp. My guess is someone having 7 days of withdrawal and severe rebound hypertension where taking some pretty hefty doses. I have read reports of people using as high as 12 grams at a single usage. The problem with phenibut again is that people with propensities to abuse drugs or alcohol should shy away from because those are the type that may start taking this daily at levels that could potentially result in withdrawal or rebound hypertension.
    I have seen others with rebound hyptertenison for 1,000-1500mg doses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegameoflife View Post
    Any recommendations on a good OTC supplement to help with relaxation?
    Phenibut xt

    Also great at preventing hangovers.

    Not as good as weed, but if your moderate with your alcohol usage, no problems the next day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post

    Where can you buy it anymore?,
    The xt is what I used with zero negative sides
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post

    No you don't.... At least wait...YOU DO WUT
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    You know what... for me, and many others, the problem is not necessarily dependence or addiction, it's permanent tolerance. My first several times with phenibut were absolute magic, but that faded over time. And it does not come back with time. I hadn't taken phenibut in several years, then I got some recently. It's okay, just not what it used to be. Many people on other forums have reported this as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcc80 View Post
    You know what... for me, and many others, the problem is not necessarily dependence or addiction, it's permanent tolerance. My first several times with phenibut were absolute magic, but that faded over time. And it does not come back with time. I hadn't taken phenibut in several years, then I got some recently. It's okay, just not what it used to be. Many people on other forums have reported this as well
    Must be y'all, cause it works great for me every time!
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    Did you abuse it an any point? I sure as hell did. But I stayed off of it for a good 5 years, but the magic was still gone
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcc80 View Post
    Did you abuse it an any point? I sure as hell did. But I stayed off of it for a good 5 years, but the magic was still gone
    Na, most I've taken is 2 or 3 grams (i think, can't really remember, lol)

    But usually only take 500mg-1g once every other weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegameoflife View Post
    Any recommendations on a good OTC supplement to help with relaxation?
    There are quite a few for sure I think 5-HTP could be a good start though it doesn't work for everyone and I think one of the best anxiolytics out there is phenibut, tastes terrible so you will probably need to get capsules and take at least 1.5g of it to get an effect but it is very good for relaxation.
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    Pea extreme is another good one for me, others may disagree ( well, do,lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Pea extreme is another good one.
    That stuff gave me a hella bad rash!
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    rash? dang that sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    rash? dang that sucks.
    I was kinda bummed its the only supplement that has caused an allergic reaction. Which is a shame because I loved how it made me feel. Oh well I guess Ill just stick to Phenibut XT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Dan View Post
    I love SNS and was going to pick up Phenibut XT but then saw NP had a good price on their brand for Black Friday and picked up 2 bottles of that (sorry SNS ). Anyone have any experience with NP brand of Phenibut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Dan View Post
    Lol it is their capped version, they have them on sale for $12.19 a bottle. I was curious how effective they are compared to SNS brand Phenibut XT. It seems whenever I buy SNS brand products they always work better then other bulk brands. Must be the raws you use. Anyways if I like the effects of Phenibut, I promise I'll buy Phenibut XT when I re up next!
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    Some of the comments in this thread are hilarious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Dan View Post
    I love SNS and was going to pick up Phenibut XT but then saw NP had a good price on their brand for Black Friday and picked up 2 bottles of that (sorry SNS ). Anyone have any experience with NP brand of Phenibut?
    I picked up a bottle of it myself.

    I bought SNS Phenibut XT last week. It was my first go at using Phenibut. I've dosed 1g, 1.5g and 2g; I have absolutely nothing to report. I usually react very well to these types of products. I'm hoping the NP brand works out better for me.

    I'll give it some time (week) before I try it again. I've dosed on an empty stomach a couple hours before bed, and have also dosed it on empty (2hrs post-meal) during the day with some stims. I can't note any difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Some of the comments in this thread are hilarious
    Kind of like customer service at pes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Kind of like customer service at pes!
    I dont get the reference here
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post

    I dont get the reference here
    Two funny things. Comments in this thread, and customer service at pes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Two funny things. Comments in this thread, and customer service at pes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    Kind of like customer service at pes!
    Still angry jbry

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Two funny things. Comments in this thread, and customer service at pes.
    I guess I must have missed something
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    ive done phenibutXT with valerinROOT

    felt good on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post

    Still angry jbry

    Hug it out?
    I prefer to kiss it out, old English style
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    I prefer to kiss it out, old English style
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post

    Is that a pass at Ben?
    Na, but whoever will be the pivot man in our game of circle jerk
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    Quick question...I've been taking ultram for a while for a shoulder injury from bb benching..and yes I've tried to stop taking it and the withdrawals are horrid...I'm only taking 75 mg/day if that...would Phenibut be something to think about trying for withdrawls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blaykeryan View Post
    Quick question...I've been taking ultram for a while for a shoulder injury from bb benching..and yes I've tried to stop taking it and the withdrawals are horrid...I'm only taking 75 mg/day if that...would Phenibut be something to think about trying for withdrawls?
    You were taking Tramadol for a shoulder injury? Yikes. I wouldn't suggest using Phenibut as a way to alleviate the symptoms of withdrawal personally, because that in of itself needs to be used sparingly
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