Holy Cow... Aegeline No More
- 11-15-2013, 12:48 PM
Holy Cow... Aegeline No More
USPlabs to Eliminate Aegeline from Supplements amid Hepatitis Probe
In the article it would appear that USPLabs is not even going to bother to fight the FDA on aegeline. Apparently they've informed the FDA that they are reformulating all aegeline containing products and they have destroyed all products containing aegeline.
Could it possibly be that the aegeline did cause the acute hepatitis? I'm not saying that aegeline is the culprit or not but this is kind of telling...
- 11-15-2013, 01:07 PM
I seriously doubt it's aegeline causing these issues, USP has learned that they can't win with the FDA so it really wouldn't be worth the time and effort (or money for that matter) to fight them.
Because, just like with DMAA, ultimately the FDA makes them destroy everything with it anyway.
They just shutdown PAs New clearshot as well.
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11-15-2013, 02:23 PM
Yes he mentioned that on FB as well last week
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11-18-2013, 11:26 AM
Do any supplements containing this label it on the ingredients? I have the intl version of alphamine but the label doesn't include it. However it's meant to be included?
11-18-2013, 11:31 AM
11-18-2013, 11:34 AM
Oh Christ now I am paranoid. Is there a rep that could PM me I have a question best kept private.
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11-18-2013, 11:39 AM
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11-18-2013, 11:41 AM
Sad that I had to dump the Enhanced though
11-18-2013, 11:46 AM
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11-18-2013, 11:58 AM
^How do you know the international version is being discontinued dude?
I'm in the UK too, wondering if my alphamine is safe or not? :s
11-18-2013, 11:58 AM
Interestingly enough though and I don't know if this has any impact on discontinuation of products or not, both tembamide and aegeline shares p-Methoxyoctopamine as a product of hydrolysis. I think p-Methoxyoctopamine might be what the end goal and purpose of using aegeline and tembamide would be.
11-18-2013, 12:11 PM
11-18-2013, 12:23 PM
At some point the tembamide in UK Alphamine was replaced with aegeline.
I have old tubs with tembamide and new tubs with aegeline.
Could a PES rep chime in and say if both needs to be binned or if the tembamide tubs is fine?
11-18-2013, 12:36 PM
There's no reason to believe that Aegeline would cause severe hepatitis or death.
It's a significant constituent of Baal Fruit and I wasn't aware that acute debilitating non-vital hepatitis was widespread in India where it is consumed in the diet in probably higher doses than is contained in any of USPLabs supplements regularly.
Regarding the pesticide hype that has gone around.
Yes, essential oil of aegle marmelos leaves is used as a pesticide.
You would also know if it was in the products because being high in limonene they would smell strongly of citrus, and it is a skin and respiratory irritant.
USPLabs should have just skipped the aegeline name and the chemical nomenclature on Versa-1 and gone with 'Aegle Marmelos extract' and probablyt nothing would have ever been pointed towards aegline as a cause of this...
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11-18-2013, 09:38 PM
so a group of people took ol aegeline in hawaii and got sick; filthy-ass, parasite-ridden hawaii, the same place where tourists go to puke their guts out for 7 days after drinking the water and the FDA points to a supplement? please
11-18-2013, 11:17 PM
Aegeline is not being pulled because people are getting sick and is not the cause, has not been confirmed that it is the cause. The FDA is pulling it because it doesn't comply with DSHEA.
11-18-2013, 11:45 PM
They say it's not Angeline that's being recalled. Email this morning
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11-19-2013, 12:34 AM
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11-19-2013, 01:40 AM
i saw this interview about a woman who grew sprouts and she was accused. they tested five times and couldnt find contamination, which i guess is insanely difficult to pull off for a little operation like hers. anyway, she was pressured to do a recall anyway (which didnt make sense to her, i guess some bigger corporations wanted her to be the one to go down instead). she cracked under the pressure. later, she said giving in was her biggest regret, as the recall is PUBLICALLY VIEWED as an admission of guilt
11-19-2013, 02:58 AM
36 people contracted non-viral hepatitis with Oxyelite Pro as the common factor and you're saying the country is at fault? Tourists get sick because they arn't used to the water.
The comparison makes zero sense.
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11-19-2013, 03:01 AM
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