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    Bronkaid expectorant prolonged use?


    Question for those smarter than I....

    I've been on EC since 3rd week of sept. I sing as a side hobby (seriously) take vocal training, record, etc ....

    Literally for the last month I have been unable to sing almlst at all... I am constantly congested and clogged and nasally.

    For the first few weeks of EC, I noticed an increase in my lung capacity and volume/ability to project....Now I can't fckin sing for shti.

    Can the prolonged use of the expectorant in bronkaid be causing this??
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    Hows your water intake?

    When I take bronkaid my throat usually gets pretty dry and sore and my voice gets scratchy if I dont consume enough water.

    My suggestion is to find ephedrine without the expectorant if you wish to continue taking eca
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Hows your water intake?

    When I take bronkaid my throat usually gets pretty dry and sore and my voice gets scratchy if I dont consume enough water.

    My suggestion is to find ephedrine without the expectorant if you wish to continue taking eca
    Could be better for sure.. At least half a gallon a day.. Idk where the hell to find it lol. Everything OTC has extra ingredients in it
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    Isn't primatine straight ephedrine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wocheezy View Post
    Isn't primatine straight ephedrine?
    No, they added the same expectorant in bronkaid. Primatene uses ephedrine hcl though whereas bronkaid is ephedrine sulfate and has 25mg per capsule, making it more desirable IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    No, they added the same expectorant in bronkaid. Primatene uses ephedrine hcl though whereas bronkaid is ephedrine sulfate and has 25mg per capsule, making it more desirable IMO
    I see. Yeah I've always used Bronkaid for convenience but was unaware that primatine contained the same expectorant. You could always ask Walter white how to extract the ephedrine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wocheezy View Post

    I see. Yeah I've always used Bronkaid for convenience but was unaware that primatine contained the same expectorant. You could always ask Walter white how to extract the ephedrine
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    Primatene has always had more of a stimulant effect for me than Bronkaid. Aren't the by weight ephedrine differences virtually the same in the products?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Primatene has always had more of a stimulant effect for me than Bronkaid. Aren't the by weight ephedrine differences virtually the same in the products?
    Yup. There is a difference in the amount but not enough to make a significant difference
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    I have had 0 throat issues with the expectorant, but I do drink an insane amount of water. Close to a gallon a day (and yes I live in the bathroom, but I'm a water addict).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Primatene has always had more of a stimulant effect for me than Bronkaid. Aren't the by weight ephedrine differences virtually the same in the products?
    The kinetics of HCl are superior.

    You shouldn't be taking an expectorant too long-term. Even for ephedrine, it has been shown that the b2-receptor is not downregulated in adipose with prolonged use...this may not be true in the trachea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    The kinetics of HCl are superior. You shouldn't be taking an expectorant too long-term. Even for ephedrine, it has been shown that the b2-receptor is not downregulated in adipose with prolonged use...this may not be true in the trachea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post

    How long is too long~?
    Million dollar question here
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    Million dollar question here
    Lol. I'm talking about the expectorant just to clarify. Pa has been on ec forever it seems like haha. Gotta love it though
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post

    Million dollar question here
    I'm gonna cap my run on bronkaid at 12 weeks. Id say 8-12 weeks based on what I'm seeing and feeling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post

    Lol. I'm talking about the expectorant just to clarify. Pa has been on ec forever it seems like haha. Gotta love it though
    Haha I got the expectorant too
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    I'm gonna cap my run on bronkaid at 12 weeks. If say 8-12 weeks based on what I'm seeing and feeling
    Always seems to be a good rule of thumb
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    The kinetics of HCl are superior.

    You shouldn't be taking an expectorant too long-term. Even for ephedrine, it has been shown that the b2-receptor is not downregulated in adipose with prolonged use...this may not be true in the trachea.
    What do you mean in the trachea? I cannot open my soft pallet or push out enough air to sing certain types of notes.. I have NO issue getting the air IN. But my throat just fees SO tight .. It sucks not being able to perform like im used to..this is an acute issue and coincides to when I started using EC
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    I believe what he is saying is that while it may be fine to take ephedrine for a prolonged amount of time (since we know the receptors arent downregulated ) the same can not be said for guaifenesin (the expectorant) since the effects of prolonged use are unknown.

    Or in other words he is advising against prolonged guaifenesin use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    I believe what he is saying is that while it may be fine to take ephedrine for a prolonged amount of time (since we know the receptors arent downregulated ) the same can not be said for guaifenesin (the expectorant) since the effects of prolonged use are unknown.

    Or in other words he is advising against prolonged guaifenesin use.
    Moral of the story - find straight ephedrine

    Via pm coop told me there should t be anything to worry about with 8 weeks of guaifenesin.
    I'm at the 8 week mark on Monday, and will push it til New Years. Just wish I could find some straight ephedrine
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    I thought the body adapts to ephedrine around the 8-12 week mark, so it doesn't burn fat the same. You're just getting the stim at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drock1234 View Post
    I thought the body adapts to ephedrine around the 8-12 week mark, so it doesn't burn fat the same. You're just getting the stim at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post

    Im pretty sure its the opposite. Stim effect begins to diminish but lipolytic effects remain IIRC.
    This

    It will burn fat just the same for up to 24 weeks in studies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post
    Im pretty sure its the opposite. Stim effect begins to diminish but lipolytic effects remain IIRC.
    Correct
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    No, what I said is that ephedrine not losing potency in adipose tissue may have a secondary mechanism that does not exist in the trachea. Or it may not.
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