oep recall

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by redbirdfan1 View Post
    so what's the deal w/ PEW Enhanced then? It has the same ingredient from what I've read.

    The more people bring it up, the more likely the FDA will catch on..
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  2. Is it the Aegeline? If so, did PES license it or are they related as a company?
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  3. Interesting that NutraPlanet would send out samples of the capsules and the powder with the OxyElite Protein deal. Both have the UPC numbers listed.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by kenny76 View Post
    Just curious everyones thoughts on the recall of oep. I have a 180 ct of the advanced formula waiting in the wings to cut in the new year. the problems all seem to be in hawaii, and i believe some in arizona, and im all the way in md. i know theres been some threads about this before but why would all the problems be so centralized if all the oep is made in the same place (if it is i am not sure of that, just speculating).

    ive run all forms of oep except the advanced formula many times with no problems. im trying to decide if i wanna go throught the trouble of sending it back or just saying f it and running it anyway. wondering what some of you guys smarter than me about this stuff would do or are going to do if you have som oep.
    First off I want to say ai have no connection with USP.

    There is no logical way that such a small percentage of the population would get sick. The way a distributor works is that they buy a huge amount of product and then "distribute" it everywhere. So it would not be possible to separate the cases by state to state. Then calculate the percentage of people getting it in Hawaii and factor in the amount of people who would then have liver failure and you are looking at a large outbreak of cases. This is all propaganda by the FDA to control our supplements. It has nothing to do with USP or OXY, the only things that would make sense are counterfeit OXY (small batches made in Hawaii bc of shipping costs of the products) or people just plain overdosing for very long periods of time (user error).

    Just had to say something bc the Medias stupidity is mind numbing.

  5. http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/2...e-getting-sick
    The woman in the video say's she bought suspect looking OEP product off the internet. Also mentions the woman that died was refused a liver transplant as she already had cancer.

    This was linked on another site ^^^

    This is interesting!
    Could it be that Hawaii had a corrupt copy being sold? - Possible!
    Some of the people by the looks of it who became ill/died could have had other complicating issues before taking the product/s? - Possible as suggested!
    Labelling does state if you have known complications/illnesses then avoid the use! People still chose to use? Corrrect!
    Some where also taking other products at the time of the issues? Correct! But nothing said against these other products and not even named, why?

    If Aegeline is to blame then why havent the FDA contacted ALL companies using said ingredient? Confused! FDA are supposed to be the governing body for safety in this industry! If so then they should be making other companies recall any products with this ingredient in for consumer safety reasons but it would only seem that USPlabs have been targeted, Why?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by redbirdfan1 View Post
    so what's the deal w/ PEW Enhanced then? It has the same ingredient from what I've read.
    It's been discontinued according to the site.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    It's been discontinued according to the site.
    Oh wow it has. Huh.

  8. Please be careful, should you decide to use OEP powder. I started in June 2013 and had KILLER results. But then I started feeling lousy, with tremendous fatigue and nausea. Then the jaundice set in as well as other unpleasant side effects I won't gross you out with. I ended up in the ER on September 11. My LFTs were off the charts (worse than any cirrhosis of the liver would cause and in only a VERY short period of time). They were considering wheeling me in for emergency gall bladder removal, but after CT scan, MRI and ultrasound, they found no masses, tumors, blockages, and I had no abdominal pain. With process of elimination and many, many tests by several doctors, it was determined the OEP powder was the culprit. The ONLY thing that saved my liver was my daily habit of drinking a gallon of water and a clean diet sans alcohol. After 12 weeks, my liver functions are all normal with the exception of direct bilirubin. Note that I took less than the recommended dosage because of the nausea. As far as demographics, I live in Connecticut. I bought one tub at GNC and the other through the supplement shop at a local gym, but never used the latter.

    Not here to preach - only to tell you to PLEASE be careful. You do NOT want to go through daily blood draws (some days were 6+ vials), out of pocket expense and just not knowing if there is permanent damage.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Jenyfur View Post
    Please be careful, should you decide to use OEP powder. I started in June 2013 and had KILLER results. But then I started feeling lousy, with tremendous fatigue and nausea. Then the jaundice set in as well as other unpleasant side effects I won't gross you out with. I ended up in the ER on September 11. My LFTs were off the charts (worse than any cirrhosis of the liver would cause and in only a VERY short period of time). They were considering wheeling me in for emergency gall bladder removal, but after CT scan, MRI and ultrasound, they found no masses, tumors, blockages, and I had no abdominal pain. With process of elimination and many, many tests by several doctors, it was determined the OEP powder was the culprit. The ONLY thing that saved my liver was my daily habit of drinking a gallon of water and a clean diet sans alcohol. After 12 weeks, my liver functions are all normal with the exception of direct bilirubin. Note that I took less than the recommended dosage because of the nausea. As far as demographics, I live in Connecticut. I bought one tub at GNC and the other through the supplement shop at a local gym, but never used the latter. Not here to preach - only to tell you to PLEASE be careful. You do NOT want to go through daily blood draws (some days were 6+ vials), out of pocket expense and just not knowing if there is permanent damage.
    Wow
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by redbirdfan1 View Post
    so what's the deal w/ PEW Enhanced then? It has the same ingredient from what I've read.
    enhanced discontinued. International alphamine to follow?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by d1sc1ple View Post
    First off I want to say ai have no connection with USP.

    There is no logical way that such a small percentage of the population would get sick. The way a distributor works is that they buy a huge amount of product and then "distribute" it everywhere. So it would not be possible to separate the cases by state to state. Then calculate the percentage of people getting it in Hawaii and factor in the amount of people who would then have liver failure and you are looking at a large outbreak of cases. This is all propaganda by the FDA to control our supplements. It has nothing to do with USP or OXY, the only things that would make sense are counterfeit OXY (small batches made in Hawaii bc of shipping costs of the products) or people just plain overdosing for very long periods of time (user error).

    Just had to say something bc the Medias stupidity is mind numbing.

    So the people that got sick are all faking it because of some conspiracy that the FDA is trying to control our supplements?. Yeah, that sounds reasonable.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by d1sc1ple View Post
    First off I want to say ai have no connection with USP.

    There is no logical way that such a small percentage of the population would get sick. The way a distributor works is that they buy a huge amount of product and then "distribute" it everywhere. So it would not be possible to separate the cases by state to state. Then calculate the percentage of people getting it in Hawaii and factor in the amount of people who would then have liver failure and you are looking at a large outbreak of cases. This is all propaganda by the FDA to control our supplements. It has nothing to do with USP or OXY, the only things that would make sense are counterfeit OXY (small batches made in Hawaii bc of shipping costs of the products) or people just plain overdosing for very long periods of time (user error).

    Just had to say something bc the Medias stupidity is mind numbing.
    Maybe my countries lying to eh?

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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    It's a multi-national conspiracy against USP. Come on man, open your eyes....lol

  15. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    That's not a recall though, that's just stock floating around flying under the FDA's radar :P

    I thought that the FDA made it clear that DMAA products can no longer be sold and they've already forced the two biggest distributors of OG Jack3d and OEP to destroy all available stock of the products. Wouldn't an actual recall only apply to things that are still currently legally in circulation and being sold? If you're still selling the product doesn't that fall more in line with breaking FDA regulations? Just throwing it out there :P

    Or does recall mean something else entirely which I am not aware of? Could very possibly be the case...
    dmaa is still available under the chemical name 1,3 dime....at of all places walmart and krogers. both places carry a hi-tech product called fastin. remember hi-tech, the company that sold spiked stamina rx? looks like gnc has the new non-dmaa version, but both krogers and walmart have dmaa right on the label, i read it.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    dmaa is still available under the chemical name 1,3 dime....at of all places walmart and krogers. both places carry a hi-tech product called fastin. remember hi-tech, the company that sold spiked stamina rx? looks like gnc has the new non-dmaa version, but both krogers and walmart have dmaa right on the label, i read it.
    Actually the AJC did an article last week about Hi-Tech. Fastin was still being sold at GNC until ajc.com brought it to their attention.

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  17. Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Actually the AJC did an article last week about Hi-Tech. Fastin was still being sold at GNC until ajc.com brought it to their attention.
    it is still being sold at gnc-without the dmaa....krogers and walmart both have it on their shelves as of this afternoon, with dmaa included.

    how does hi-tech get away with this stuff? stamina rx was proven to be spiked!!!
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    it is still being sold at gnc-without the dmaa....krogers and walmart both have it on their shelves as of this afternoon, with dmaa included. how does hi-tech get away with this stuff? stamina rx was proven to be spiked!!!
    Lol go walmart!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    dmaa is still available under the chemical name 1,3 dime....at of all places walmart and krogers. both places carry a hi-tech product called fastin. remember hi-tech, the company that sold spiked stamina rx? looks like gnc has the new non-dmaa version, but both krogers and walmart have dmaa right on the label, i read it.
    I think Mesomorph is still around with DMAA. Pretty sure I saw some Muscle Marinade around some places as well

  20. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    Lol go walmart!
    no sh1t, fda doesn't have the balls to mess with wally world!!!
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post

    So the people that got sick are all faking it because of some conspiracy that the FDA is trying to control our supplements?. Yeah, that sounds reasonable.
    Learn to read I said it was most likely counterfeit bottles with questionable handling practices involved.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by d1sc1ple View Post
    Learn to read I said it was most likely counterfeit bottles with questionable handling practices involved.
    im thinking counterfeit bottles as well. from what everyone is sayng shipping to hawaii is really high so maybe they were made and sold there and ebay or amazon could be the reason they made it to some other places.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    I think Mesomorph is still around with DMAA. Pretty sure I saw some Muscle Marinade around some places as well
    Just finished some mesomorph. Twas glorious.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by kenny76 View Post
    im thinking counterfeit bottles as well. from what everyone is sayng shipping to hawaii is really high so maybe they were made and sold there and ebay or amazon could be the reason they made it to some other places.
    Other countries have been affected as well, NZ specifically addressed this already. Everyone needs to stop defending USP blindly. There is an investigation. It's not just Hawaii anymore, it's CONUS and foreign.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    Other countries have been affected as well, NZ specifically addressed this already. Everyone needs to stop defending USP blindly. There is an investigation. It's not just Hawaii anymore, it's CONUS and foreign.
    it's not about defending usplabs, it's about not trusting the government.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post

    it's not about defending usplabs, it's about not trusting the government.
    Exactly.
    Dont blindly trust our gubment

  27. Quote Originally Posted by kenny76 View Post

    Exactly.
    Dont blindly trust our gubment
    I will be the first one to say I don't trust everything the fda/gov have to say. They have an agenda to control supplements same way they do pharma. It's more profitable that way.

    They also use pharses like "never let a good tragedy go to waste" ex 9/11, sandy hook, batman shooting. Always a lot of conicedences around those events.

    However, as someone who has used 3 bottles of versa 1, as well as a lot of enhanced, do I want to risk the fact that this could be another govt agenda? I look at my wife and 2 daughters and realize, no I do not want to take that risk.

    We put a lot of trust into these companies, but at the end of the day their number one concern is to make money. How do we know when a corner was cut in order to offer a sweet deal to consumers?

    After everything I have read the last few days, I'm tempted to just throw all my sh1t away, and never look back.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    I will be the first one to say I don't trust everything the fda/gov have to say. They have an agenda to control supplements same way they do pharma. It's more profitable that way. They also use pharses like "never let a good tragedy go to waste" ex 9/11, sandy hook, batman shooting. Always a lot of conicedences around those events. However, as someone who has used 3 bottles of versa 1, as well as a lot of enhanced, do I want to risk the fact that this could be another govt agenda? I look at my wife and 2 daughters and realize, no I do not want to take that risk. We put a lot of trust into these companies, but at the end of the day their number one concern is to make money. How do we know when a corner was cut in order to offer a sweet deal to consumers? After everything I have read the last few days, I'm tempted to just throw all my sh1t away, and never look back.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    I will be the first one to say I don't trust everything the fda/gov have to say. They have an agenda to control supplements same way they do pharma. It's more profitable that way.

    They also use pharses like "never let a good tragedy go to waste" ex 9/11, sandy hook, batman shooting. Always a lot of conicedences around those events.

    However, as someone who has used 3 bottles of versa 1, as well as a lot of enhanced, do I want to risk the fact that this could be another govt agenda? I look at my wife and 2 daughters and realize, no I do not want to take that risk.

    We put a lot of trust into these companies, but at the end of the day their number one concern is to make money. How do we know when a corner was cut in order to offer a sweet deal to consumers?

    After everything I have read the last few days, I'm tempted to just throw all my sh1t away, and never look back.
    if you have already used 3 bottles of versa 1, as well as a bunch of enhanced, and you are concerned...then i suggest you get bloods done!!! i would trust your blood test after a significant amount of use much more than i trust anything put out by the fda or any government agency for that matter...

    i know there are lots of guys on this forum who get bloods done frequently, for one reason or another...i also know that usplabs gave out a ton of versa 1 in promos and have sold a significant amount of it....

    if anyone who has used versa 1 and had bloods come back showing anything liver connected out of the ordinary....post it up!!!
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