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    Quote Originally Posted by redbirdfan1 View Post
    so what's the deal w/ PEW Enhanced then? It has the same ingredient from what I've read.
    enhanced discontinued. International alphamine to follow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by d1sc1ple View Post
    First off I want to say ai have no connection with USP.

    There is no logical way that such a small percentage of the population would get sick. The way a distributor works is that they buy a huge amount of product and then "distribute" it everywhere. So it would not be possible to separate the cases by state to state. Then calculate the percentage of people getting it in Hawaii and factor in the amount of people who would then have liver failure and you are looking at a large outbreak of cases. This is all propaganda by the FDA to control our supplements. It has nothing to do with USP or OXY, the only things that would make sense are counterfeit OXY (small batches made in Hawaii bc of shipping costs of the products) or people just plain overdosing for very long periods of time (user error).

    Just had to say something bc the Medias stupidity is mind numbing.

    So the people that got sick are all faking it because of some conspiracy that the FDA is trying to control our supplements?. Yeah, that sounds reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d1sc1ple View Post
    First off I want to say ai have no connection with USP.

    There is no logical way that such a small percentage of the population would get sick. The way a distributor works is that they buy a huge amount of product and then "distribute" it everywhere. So it would not be possible to separate the cases by state to state. Then calculate the percentage of people getting it in Hawaii and factor in the amount of people who would then have liver failure and you are looking at a large outbreak of cases. This is all propaganda by the FDA to control our supplements. It has nothing to do with USP or OXY, the only things that would make sense are counterfeit OXY (small batches made in Hawaii bc of shipping costs of the products) or people just plain overdosing for very long periods of time (user error).

    Just had to say something bc the Medias stupidity is mind numbing.
    Maybe my countries lying to eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    It's a multi-national conspiracy against USP. Come on man, open your eyes....lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    That's not a recall though, that's just stock floating around flying under the FDA's radar :P

    I thought that the FDA made it clear that DMAA products can no longer be sold and they've already forced the two biggest distributors of OG Jack3d and OEP to destroy all available stock of the products. Wouldn't an actual recall only apply to things that are still currently legally in circulation and being sold? If you're still selling the product doesn't that fall more in line with breaking FDA regulations? Just throwing it out there :P

    Or does recall mean something else entirely which I am not aware of? Could very possibly be the case...
    dmaa is still available under the chemical name 1,3 dime....at of all places walmart and krogers. both places carry a hi-tech product called fastin. remember hi-tech, the company that sold spiked stamina rx? looks like gnc has the new non-dmaa version, but both krogers and walmart have dmaa right on the label, i read it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    dmaa is still available under the chemical name 1,3 dime....at of all places walmart and krogers. both places carry a hi-tech product called fastin. remember hi-tech, the company that sold spiked stamina rx? looks like gnc has the new non-dmaa version, but both krogers and walmart have dmaa right on the label, i read it.
    Actually the AJC did an article last week about Hi-Tech. Fastin was still being sold at GNC until ajc.com brought it to their attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Actually the AJC did an article last week about Hi-Tech. Fastin was still being sold at GNC until ajc.com brought it to their attention.
    it is still being sold at gnc-without the dmaa....krogers and walmart both have it on their shelves as of this afternoon, with dmaa included.

    how does hi-tech get away with this stuff? stamina rx was proven to be spiked!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    it is still being sold at gnc-without the dmaa....krogers and walmart both have it on their shelves as of this afternoon, with dmaa included. how does hi-tech get away with this stuff? stamina rx was proven to be spiked!!!
    Lol go walmart!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    dmaa is still available under the chemical name 1,3 dime....at of all places walmart and krogers. both places carry a hi-tech product called fastin. remember hi-tech, the company that sold spiked stamina rx? looks like gnc has the new non-dmaa version, but both krogers and walmart have dmaa right on the label, i read it.
    I think Mesomorph is still around with DMAA. Pretty sure I saw some Muscle Marinade around some places as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    Lol go walmart!
    no sh1t, fda doesn't have the balls to mess with wally world!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post

    So the people that got sick are all faking it because of some conspiracy that the FDA is trying to control our supplements?. Yeah, that sounds reasonable.
    Learn to read I said it was most likely counterfeit bottles with questionable handling practices involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d1sc1ple View Post
    Learn to read I said it was most likely counterfeit bottles with questionable handling practices involved.
    im thinking counterfeit bottles as well. from what everyone is sayng shipping to hawaii is really high so maybe they were made and sold there and ebay or amazon could be the reason they made it to some other places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    I think Mesomorph is still around with DMAA. Pretty sure I saw some Muscle Marinade around some places as well
    Just finished some mesomorph. Twas glorious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny76 View Post
    im thinking counterfeit bottles as well. from what everyone is sayng shipping to hawaii is really high so maybe they were made and sold there and ebay or amazon could be the reason they made it to some other places.
    Other countries have been affected as well, NZ specifically addressed this already. Everyone needs to stop defending USP blindly. There is an investigation. It's not just Hawaii anymore, it's CONUS and foreign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    Other countries have been affected as well, NZ specifically addressed this already. Everyone needs to stop defending USP blindly. There is an investigation. It's not just Hawaii anymore, it's CONUS and foreign.
    it's not about defending usplabs, it's about not trusting the government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post

    it's not about defending usplabs, it's about not trusting the government.
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny76 View Post

    Exactly.
    Dont blindly trust our gubment
    I will be the first one to say I don't trust everything the fda/gov have to say. They have an agenda to control supplements same way they do pharma. It's more profitable that way.

    They also use pharses like "never let a good tragedy go to waste" ex 9/11, sandy hook, batman shooting. Always a lot of conicedences around those events.

    However, as someone who has used 3 bottles of versa 1, as well as a lot of enhanced, do I want to risk the fact that this could be another govt agenda? I look at my wife and 2 daughters and realize, no I do not want to take that risk.

    We put a lot of trust into these companies, but at the end of the day their number one concern is to make money. How do we know when a corner was cut in order to offer a sweet deal to consumers?

    After everything I have read the last few days, I'm tempted to just throw all my sh1t away, and never look back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    I will be the first one to say I don't trust everything the fda/gov have to say. They have an agenda to control supplements same way they do pharma. It's more profitable that way. They also use pharses like "never let a good tragedy go to waste" ex 9/11, sandy hook, batman shooting. Always a lot of conicedences around those events. However, as someone who has used 3 bottles of versa 1, as well as a lot of enhanced, do I want to risk the fact that this could be another govt agenda? I look at my wife and 2 daughters and realize, no I do not want to take that risk. We put a lot of trust into these companies, but at the end of the day their number one concern is to make money. How do we know when a corner was cut in order to offer a sweet deal to consumers? After everything I have read the last few days, I'm tempted to just throw all my sh1t away, and never look back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    I will be the first one to say I don't trust everything the fda/gov have to say. They have an agenda to control supplements same way they do pharma. It's more profitable that way.

    They also use pharses like "never let a good tragedy go to waste" ex 9/11, sandy hook, batman shooting. Always a lot of conicedences around those events.

    However, as someone who has used 3 bottles of versa 1, as well as a lot of enhanced, do I want to risk the fact that this could be another govt agenda? I look at my wife and 2 daughters and realize, no I do not want to take that risk.

    We put a lot of trust into these companies, but at the end of the day their number one concern is to make money. How do we know when a corner was cut in order to offer a sweet deal to consumers?

    After everything I have read the last few days, I'm tempted to just throw all my sh1t away, and never look back.
    if you have already used 3 bottles of versa 1, as well as a bunch of enhanced, and you are concerned...then i suggest you get bloods done!!! i would trust your blood test after a significant amount of use much more than i trust anything put out by the fda or any government agency for that matter...

    i know there are lots of guys on this forum who get bloods done frequently, for one reason or another...i also know that usplabs gave out a ton of versa 1 in promos and have sold a significant amount of it....

    if anyone who has used versa 1 and had bloods come back showing anything liver connected out of the ordinary....post it up!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post

    if you have already used 3 bottles of versa 1, as well as a bunch of enhanced, and you are concerned...then i suggest you get bloods done!!! i would trust your blood test after a significant amount of use much more than i trust anything put out by the fda or any government agency for that matter...

    i know there are lots of guys on this forum who get bloods done frequently, for one reason or another...i also know that usplabs gave out a ton of versa 1 in promos and have sold a significant amount of it....

    if anyone who has used versa 1 and had bloods come back showing anything liver connected out of the ordinary....post it up!!!
    Im gonna go get a referral to labcorp tommorow. Went through 6 versa 1, 2 and a half enhanced, 1 oep powder plus a bunch of samples, and several 21 cap sample bottles of purple cap oep, prob at least 5 to 6 weeks worth. Ill keep everyone updated if interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny76 View Post
    Im gonna go get a referral to labcorp tommorow. Went through 6 versa 1, 2 and a half enhanced, 1 oep powder plus a bunch of samples, and several 21 cap sample bottles of purple cap oep, prob at least 5 to 6 weeks worth. Ill keep everyone updated if interested.
    very interested...i used a bottle of versa 1 during the promo way back before usp even named it...i don't remember how close it was to using versa 1, but for some reason my liver enzymes went crazy high....my doc was so concerned he took me off trt thinking test cyp might be the cause, i started tudca and heavy doses of milk thistle and liver enzymes came down enough for him to put me on androgel....liver enzymes have since been a little high but not out of the ordinary...never could figure out why my liver enzymes blew up like that, thank GOD it was only temporary!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    I don't have any symptoms, it's just concerning to think about.
    Word. I dumped the remainder of my Enhanced, but I'm still taking Alphamine, Erase, AS GMS, and Amino IV :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post

    Other countries have been affected as well, NZ specifically addressed this already. Everyone needs to stop defending USP blindly. There is an investigation. It's not just Hawaii anymore, it's CONUS and foreign.
    And some were bought from a major retail chain in Hawaii

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    it's not about defending usplabs, it's about not trusting the government.
    Go out your tin foil hat on too. Jeez, there's more than 1 country reporting this. You really think the government is going to waste time attacking a tiny company?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    Go out your tin foil hat on too. Jeez, there's more than 1 country reporting this. You really think the government is going to waste time attacking a tiny company?
    why not waste time...they waste everything else!!!
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    i would not say necessarily that this is some big government conspiricy, nor would i say it was not. but something stinks about this whole situation, and anyone that blindly believes anything any government says is living in a fantasy world. i have no doubt people have gotten sick, but if you dont think the american government would bother putting the time or effort to use this situation to go after usp labs after the whole dmaa thing your crazy.
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    And im not defending usp labs in any way either. if there is truly wrongdoing on their part than they would deserve to pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny76 View Post
    i would not say necessarily that this is some big government conspiricy, nor would i say it was not. but something stinks about this whole situation, and anyone that blindly believes anything any government says is living in a fantasy world. i have no doubt people have gotten sick, but if you dont think the american government would bother putting the time or effort to use this situation to go after usp labs after the whole dmaa thing your crazy.
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    Ya know I hope you guys are always drinking enough water to make your urine clear. I think water intake is extremely important when taking any supplement. Also remember that coffee detoxes the liver extremely well
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    Ya know I hope you guys are always drinking enough water to make your urine clear. I think water intake is extremely important when taking any supplement. Also remember that coffee detoxes the liver extremely well
    Hmm didnt know that about coffee. I enjoy a couple strong black coffees a day on top of 1.5 or more gallons of h2o.
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    I contacted USPLABS yesterday and was informed to stop taking OEP. I asked about Versa-1 and was NOT informed to discontine using it. I have 5 bottles of Versa-1 and was a beta tester but I'm gonna quit taking it until its clear that its safe. All the powder and purple cap OEP I have were on the list of recalled UPC's.
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    Everyone knows that Aegline wasn't pulled because of the hospital cases right? That's just some wild guess some Dr threw out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Everyone knows that Aegeline wasn't pulled because of the hospital cases right? That's just some wild guess some Dr threw out there.
    No they don't even though I keep trying to explain it over and over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Everyone knows that Aegline wasn't pulled because of the hospital cases right? That's just some wild guess some Dr threw out there.
    Aegeline: A primary alkaloid of Aegle marmelos

    "Aegle oil may be used as botanical insecticide against different stored grain insect pests causing infestation in stored wheat and pulses"

    Rajesh Kumar, Ashok Kumar, Chandra Shekhar, Nawal Kishore Dubey, Raju Samant. Insecticidal activity Aegle marmelos (L.) Correa essential oil against four stored grain insect pest. Internet Journal of Food Safety 01/2008; 10:39-49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Aegeline: A primary alkaloid of Aegle marmelos

    "Aegle oil may be used as botanical insecticide against different stored grain insect pests causing infestation in stored wheat and pulses"

    Rajesh Kumar, Ashok Kumar, Chandra Shekhar, Nawal Kishore Dubey, Raju Samant. Insecticidal activity Aegle marmelos (L.) Correa essential oil against four stored grain insect pest. Internet Journal of Food Safety 01/2008; 10:39-49.
    very useful, lol....i read that 12% of improrted spices are contaminated with 'filth', and possibly even salmonella with mexico and india being the worst culprits.

    but this was coming from the fda, so it could be total fabrication, or a much higher percentage...

    google contaminated spices, interesting stuff....or gross, depending on how much imported spices you use, lol.
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    "Aegle oil may be used as botanical insecticide against different stored grain insect pests causing infestation in stored wheat and pulses"

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    Ok so case closed. You should send that straight to the FDA doorstep so they can end this thing already.

    Seriously? Common man you're making yourself look silly by spear heading this anti USP PES stuff.

    It was pulled because it's was non compliant. Beyond that you and I know Jack shyt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Ok so case closed. You should send that straight to the FDA doorstep so they can end this thing already.

    Seriously? Common man you're making yourself look silly by spear heading this anti USP PES stuff.

    It was pulled because it's was non compliant. Beyond that you and I know Jack shyt.
    I don't like USP but it is quite obvious.

    Maybe someone should bring up how SNS/CEL were related and how many pro hormones they sold. Talk about liver damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey4545 View Post

    I don't like USP but it is quite obvious.

    Maybe someone should bring how SNS/CEL were related and how many pro hormones they sold. Talk about liver damage.
    I think this is well known knowledge.
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