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    New Ingredient?


    1hydroxypholedrine?


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    That's oxilofrine AKA real methylsynephrine.

    On the WADA banned list, possibly illegal to market as a dietary supplement.

    It's not naturally found, and has resulted in numerous olympic athletes suspensions.


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2439527/

    Oxilofrine (1-hydroxypholedrine diastereomer)
    This is a sympathomimetic used to treat hypotensive states, with actions similar to those of ephedrine (Sweetman, 2007). Its actions may be largely indirect by releasing NA (Jacquot et al., 1980). It is reported to have predominantly cardiac inotropic actions (Kauert et al., 1988). It is a metabolite of p-methoxymethamphetamine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    That's oxilofrine AKA real methylsynephrine.

    On the WADA banned list, possibly illegal to market as a dietary supplement.

    It's not naturally found, and has resulted in numerous olympic athletes suspensions.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2439527/
    Well it's in this product I got a sample of lol
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    Did you try it? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    Did you try it? Lol
    Not yet. Tomorrow!

    Called torrid eca

    And I got some ans stuff to try

    Sleep aid ain't go shabby
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    it used to be in the OG meltdown... along with TTA.. was good stuff.
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    I'm not seeing a strong reason for using it over more legal alternatives...
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    I'm not seeing a strong reason for using it over more legal alternatives...
    It was in a sample.

    So ill use it instead of oep or alphamine one day

    I loved the og meltdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    It was in a sample.

    So ill use it instead of oep or alphamine one day

    I loved the og meltdown.
    Well yeah I can see trying it, moreso questioning it from a manufacturer perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post

    Well yeah I can see trying it, moreso questioning it from a manufacturer perspective.
    Agree there

    I'm going to remake aav2

    Going to take out 3 things and replace with 3 things

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    Torrid eca is a pretty solid fat burner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Torrid eca is a pretty solid fat burner
    I said **** it and took a cap just now
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    did OP make it???????????
    you ok lil buddy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    did OP make it???????????
    you ok lil buddy?
    Yea dude I'm good

    Waited 30 min. Now I'm tired. It seems 1,3 doesn't like me
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    The MS is underdosed by at least a factor of 10 based on the fact that the dose is lower than DMAA
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    The MS is underdosed by at least a factor of 10 based on the fact that the dose is lower than DMAA
    Agreed. Guess it's for show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Agreed. Guess it's for show.

    Coop mind shooting me a pm. Wanna run something by you
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    Yea dude I'm good

    Waited 30 min. Now I'm tired. It seems 1,3 doesn't like me
    Something in there puts me to sleep to at lower doses try 3 you'll feel like a spartan

    Gotta love total nutrition half there inventory is banned substance full and if any of y'all have ever tried stim factor I swear that **** is spiked with some wonderful new stimulant cause I've taken plenty of dmaa containing supps and have never had the same kind of effects, music sounds better my jaw gets to grinding(more than usual) makes me dance between sets (you get looked at funny when ur white poplocking and rapping along to your music in the gym)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post

    Something in there puts me to sleep to at lower doses try 3 you'll feel like a spartan

    Gotta love total nutrition half there inventory is banned substance full and if any of y'all have ever tried stim factor I swear that **** is spiked with some wonderful new stimulant cause I've taken plenty of dmaa containing supps and have never had the same kind of effects, music sounds better my jaw gets to grinding(more than usual) makes me dance between sets (you get looked at funny when ur white poplocking and rapping along to your music in the gym)
    I got stim factor at home and axion

    Going to try them. I'm 11 days out don't wanna try creatines. Stick to what I been doing.

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