Buying Bulk, Diminishing returns

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    Buying Bulk, Diminishing returns


    Before I pull the trigger on some bulk supplements could any one tell me if any of these used together would be a negative, I mean like cancel each other out or diminishing returns or pointless if they do similar things. Also is the dosage correct for each. I strength train but at the moment trying to bring up my conditioning so Endurance supplements are the main thought here.

    Agmatine - 1g
    cit mal - 8g
    BA - 6g
    Creatine Mono -5g
    Cop - 2g
    Betaine A - 2.5g
    Alcar 2g or LCLT

    Possibly Potassium Nitrate and if budget allows Forskolin Or ARA.

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    Everything checks out for me. Great list you got there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthGainer View Post
    Before I pull the trigger on some bulk supplements could any one tell me if any of these used together would be a negative, I mean like cancel each other out or diminishing returns or pointless if they do similar things. Also is the dosage correct for each. I strength train but at the moment trying to bring up my conditioning so Endurance supplements are the main thought here.

    Agmatine - 1g
    cit mal - 8g
    BA - 6g
    Creatine Mono -5g
    Cop - 2g
    Betaine A - 2.5g
    Alcar 2g or LCLT

    Possibly Potassium Nitrate and if budget allows Forskolin Or ARA.

    BA = Beta alanine? No need for 6g and no need to take it with COP.

    SNS sells all of those except for betaine by the way, usually at the best price point on nutraplanet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    BA = Beta alanine? No need for 6g and no need to take it with COP. SNS sells all of those except for betaine by the way, usually at the best price point on nutraplanet.
    Nice catch on the BA. Didn't see that. 3.2-4 grams is all you'll need for BA OP. Split the doses up also.
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    Cheers guys, 4g is good it will last longer.

    So no need for cop if using BA, That will save money too.
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    Doesn't Beta Alanine and COP work through different pathways?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes View Post
    Doesn't Beta Alanine and COP work through different pathways?
    I believe you'll experience limited additive benefit using both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post

    BA = Beta alanine? No need for 6g and no need to take it with COP.

    SNS sells all of those except for betaine by the way, usually at the best price point on nutraplanet.
    Nice catch.

    And definitely look into the options SNS has out on all of those, not to mention that if you send us back your SNS Used Product Containers then you can earn free product
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    I believe you'll experience limited additive benefit using both.
    I disagree. While they both ultimately buffer the cell, one is through prevention (acute) of acid buildup (phosphate donation - COP), while the other is neutralization of acid via carnosine and is achieved only chronically.
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    6-9g Cit Mal
    2-5 g creatine (2 once saturation is reached)
    And the BA suggestions also
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