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    I have been lifting for awhile now, I have my diet on check and a good work out routine. I'm looking for a good pro hormone to assist me in gaining some mass and unlocking what my body can do. Does anyone had any personal favorites, or things they would recommend? I only want OTC items, will not even discuss illegal stuff.

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    Look into Forerunner labs http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/f...lk-reboot.html

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    Forerunner labs
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    It's endless but to name a few proven supps
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
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    It's endless but to name a few proven supps
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    id have a look at iron legion, IML and a few of the others if u want the stronger legal PH/DSs
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    tropinol is incredible for libido and endurance when your recovering from a PH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gmm004 View Post
    I have been lifting for awhile now, I have my diet on check and a good work out routine. I'm looking for a good pro hormone to assist me in gaining some mass and unlocking what my body can do. Does anyone had any personal favorites, or things they would recommend? I only want OTC items, will not even discuss illegal stuff.
    Any oral steroid not currently banned would work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    Any oral steroid not currently banned would work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gmm004 View Post
    I have been lifting for awhile now, I have my diet on check and a good work out routine. I'm looking for a good pro hormone to assist me in gaining some mass and unlocking what my body can do. Does anyone had any personal favorites, or things they would recommend? I only want OTC items, will not even discuss illegal stuff.
    if u got the money. check out compoundlabs
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    You probably want a "illegal" serm as pct if you want to recover from a real ph cycle..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysfirst View Post
    You probably want a "illegal" serm as pct if you want to recover from a real ph cycle..?
    So it's better to run something like x-factor+a good test booster or ABE
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    Quote Originally Posted by amarula View Post
    So it's better to run something like x-factor+a good test booster or ABE
    Yes
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    OP you should consider an X-gel run before running a PH. The strength gains are comparable to that of a mild PH cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    Forerunner labs
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    It's endless but to name a few proven supps
    Whats pr xt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Whats pr xt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Whats pr xt?
    A great all-in-one with Anacyclus, some e-control, and hardening compounds. Currently running X-Factor Original and PR-XT. ArA and Anacyclus = win
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    A great all-in-one with Anacyclus, some e-control, and hardening compounds. Currently running X-Factor Original and PR-XT. ArA and Anacyclus = win
    That sounds like an awesome combo!!
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    I highly recommend it!
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    PR-XT is very effective. Give it a go, and add in some Nolvadren XT for a kick asss bulk
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    If the promos still going (cant see from my phone), X-gels has a great combo package on sale at the planet
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    Xgels are very nice, combine them with some Compete and Hemavol for some really nice gains.
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    some interesting views in this thread..

    OP, first you need to determine what supplements (or steroids) you wish to run..
    stating you want only "legal" OTC prohormones leads to questions of understanding, because in reality a steroid is a steroid -- whether it is illegal, or not

    so if you want to stay natty, there have been some good suggestions here

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    once you find a good ph look into iForce for PCT support!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gmm004 View Post
    I have been lifting for awhile now, I have my diet on check and a good work out routine. I'm looking for a good pro hormone to assist me in gaining some mass and unlocking what my body can do. Does anyone had any personal favorites, or things they would recommend? I only want OTC items, will not even discuss illegal stuff.
    Well, stuff that will "unlock what your can body can do" and stuff that requires an OTC recovery is a slight contradiction. Suppression is usually directly related to effectiveness.

    There are tons pf PHs that are perfectly legal but, its usually a good practice to use a SERM with any strong ones to recover. The more you get out of a PH, typically the more you will need something strong to help your body balance back out so you keep any gains.

    Any of the above suggestions will give you better than natural results, but the effective "legal" PHs like hdrol and Epi etc are generally what would give you very noticeable gains. DHEA products (like stated above) are good for a beginner, though. Maybe you'll be ready for hdrol next time around. Its really night and day, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
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    That has a nice ring to it
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    As has been stated there are many great options out there right now. You have the hardcore DS like m-sten, halo, epi, trendione(non methyl), max-lmg(non-methyl) and a few others.
    These all require a serm for an optimal PCT and also carry the most sides but are very strong.

    You then have the non methyl options put out by companies like finaflex, andro-factory, AMS, forerunner labs and of course us LG Sciences. These lines offer great options for those first getting there feet wet in hormonals. Those who have never run a cycle before will have great results with these lines, I of course am partial to our products and particularly like the following:
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    These products and the ones from the above mentioned companies are still powerful and will deliver great results. Many people still run serms with these cycles but OTC PCT is an option if constructed properly.

    The third set of options is the natty stacks that have been listed.
    Arachidonic Acid
    Anabeta regular or Elite
    Erase
    Pump Spray
    DAA(works for me some get nothing but I have low test levels to begin with)

    If you have not ran these yet they are a great option as well.

    Can you be specific about your goals?
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    Not to be a buzz kill, but these "legal steroids" have little significance. You will be disappointed in your progress. Best route is to find a shady doctor and get yourself a prescription.
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    Don't waste your money on OTC test boosters.

    Technically PH's are not "Illegal", they are Banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allday54 View Post
    Not to be a buzz kill, but these "legal steroids" have little significance. You will be disappointed in your progress. Best route is to find a shady doctor and get yourself a prescription.
    Myself and the thousands of others that have made significant gains using said compounds would disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allday54 View Post
    Not to be a buzz kill, but these "legal steroids" have little significance. You will be disappointed in your progress. Best route is to find a shady doctor and get yourself a prescription.
    tell that to the once "legal steroids" that now rock the black market.

    aka m1t and sd
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    Exactly^^

    Besides, not all PHs are banned or illegal.

    The fact that you wouldn't even consider a SERM leaves you in a category to yield minimal gains in a cycle, though.

    If you expecting some kind of transformation or 20-30lbs lift increases from one cycle of anything you don't even need a SERM for than you sir, are going to be disappointed. It really is that simple. There is so much out there that is not banned or illegal that can make noticeable leaps in LBM but sorry to say that 2 step conversion DHEA metabolites are not one of them. Its the best you are going to get with no SERM though... unless you flirt with a 5 week mild methyl run and build a serious OTC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gmm004 View Post
    I have been lifting for awhile now, I have my diet on check and a good work out routine. I'm looking for a good pro hormone to assist me in gaining some mass and unlocking what my body can do. Does anyone had any personal favorites, or things they would recommend? I only want OTC items, will not even discuss illegal stuff.
    So u don't want anything illegal so what are you doing for pct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post

    That has a nice ring to it
    Still need to try X gels
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    I would like to try X-gels, too. Its just a big turnoff for me when 10 reps all jump on some guy asking about PH's with things like "Screw Prohormones, get X-gels". makes me not want to buy them. Just being honest.

    Not to mention the 1,000 natural products that were brought out to compare with PH gains... how many of them made you gain like a PH? I think I counted none, hence why PHs are still (and probably always will be) popular to the experienced lifters looking for above natural gains.

    Not trying to flame here, just calling it like I see it. Its still an educated assumption but natural products claiming to give you PH like gains are a dime a dozen. These products get compared to PHs because PHs are the standard for things that actually work in the world of body building.

    That being said, yes, I am still going to try them to see if its worth it one day unless I start reading bad reviews by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post
    I would like to try X-gels, too. Its just a big turnoff for me when 10 reps all jump on some guy asking about PH's with things like "Screw Prohormones, get X-gels". makes me not want to buy them. Just being honest.

    Not to mention the 1,000 natural products that were brought out to compare with PH gains... how many of them made you gain like a PH? I think I counted none, hence why PHs are still (and probably always will be) popular to the experienced lifters looking for above natural gains.

    Not trying to flame here, just calling it like I see it. Its still an educated assumption but natural products claiming to give you PH like gains are a dime a dozen. These products get compared to PHs because PHs are the standard for things that actually work in thek world of body building.

    That being said, yes, I am still going to try them to see if its worth it one day unless I start reading bad reviews by then.
    Only mw and I mentioned X-gels, the rest were recommendations from other members

    Also the data on X-gels (human studies) show increases in 1RM strength over the course of the cycle and adding further that the attributes of ArA promote muscle anabolism literally puts it on par with a DHEA cycle.

    They are non methylated and cause zero shutdown which makes me favour them even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post
    I would like to try X-gels, too. Its just a big turnoff for me when 10 reps all jump on some guy asking about PH's with things like "Screw Prohormones, get X-gels". makes me not want to buy them. Just being honest.

    Not to mention the 1,000 natural products that were brought out to compare with PH gains... how many of them made you gain like a PH? I think I counted none, hence why PHs are still (and probably always will be) popular to the experienced lifters looking for above natural gains.

    Not trying to flame here, just calling it like I see it. Its still an educated assumption but natural products claiming to give you PH like gains are a dime a dozen. These products get compared to PHs because PHs are the standard for things that actually work in the world of body building.

    That being said, yes, I am still going to try them to see if its worth it one day unless I start reading bad reviews by then.
    i understand your point 100%. I am not sure how active you are on this forum, but many users (not reps) love X Gels and promote them. I have not used them but I really want to. Once I get my hands on some, I plan on doing an unbiased (like always) log of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gmm004 View Post
    I have been lifting for awhile now, I have my diet on check and a good work out routine. I'm looking for a good pro hormone to assist me in gaining some mass and unlocking what my body can do. Does anyone had any personal favorites, or things they would recommend? I only want OTC items, will not even discuss illegal stuff.
    I rec testosterone bas ewith all orals ProH or straight AAS. but i like DMZ, superdrol and M1D from LG
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    Ill give them a shot one day.

    I did a Triazole/ Activate Xtreme that gave me more strength than a DHEA run so you aren't really creating miracles for me.

    I place 2 step conversion DHEA at the extreme bottom of the pile of "phs". So to say they are comparable to PHs in general is inaccurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post
    Ill give them a shot one day.

    I did a Triazole/ Activate Xtreme that gave me more strength than a DHEA run so you aren't really creating miracles for me.

    I place 2 step conversion DHEA at the extreme bottom of the pile of "phs". So to say they are comparable to PHs in general is inaccurate.
    And thats fine, but luckily i used the phrase "mild ph"

    Def not trying to compare them to superdrol or anything.
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