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- 11-06-2013, 11:51 PM
- 11-07-2013, 12:34 AM
Seriously though. Apples to oranges. Although...xgels , transdermal and is the best 7+lb natural stack you can get given diet is .
Yes ara is a natural anabolic this is proven.
No you wont get the same gains on steroids*30+keepable gains off of testE with a dbol kicker* but you will gain additional mass of maybe 7 lbs in 8 or 10 weeks additional to your natural gains of maybe 1 to 3 lbs.
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- 11-07-2013, 02:18 AM
It is very hard work but thank god my body works faster than most others I've witnessed. Just gotta figure out this stim tolerant crap and figure out why most things don't affect me. It's not only the supps that my body doesn't respond to correctly. I used to have to drink crap loads of alcohol to get f***** up. Penicillin and Amoxicillin have literally no effect on me. Weird stuff! I'm not even a big guy..
I wonder if PH's would really even do much haha <------------(not srs)
11-07-2013, 08:50 AM
11-07-2013, 09:04 AM
11-07-2013, 09:09 AM
I personally like DOMS, with the exception of when I come back after a long lay off. Then it can inhibit normal movement lol. Thank God for the handicap bars in the restroom or post leg day toilet use poses a challenge lol.
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11-07-2013, 09:12 AM
Remember why you started.
11-07-2013, 09:16 AM
11-07-2013, 09:17 AM
11-07-2013, 09:26 AM
I know ibuprofen and NSAIDs are a no no as they are an anti inflammatory and work against one of the pathways.
See Jiigzz post a few pages back or just wiki ARA.
11-07-2013, 10:28 AM
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11-07-2013, 01:35 PM
11-07-2013, 01:50 PM
11-07-2013, 01:53 PM
As others have said, X-Factor/arachidonic acid can be a great, safe alternative to prohormones that can offer a similar amount of gains to anything currently legal.
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11-07-2013, 02:35 PM
What about endosurge, X gels, anabeta...mmmm
11-07-2013, 02:43 PM
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11-07-2013, 03:21 PM
11-07-2013, 03:25 PM
11-07-2013, 03:31 PM
Never using anabeta is something that you should keep to yourself lol.
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11-07-2013, 03:41 PM
11-07-2013, 03:43 PM
11-07-2013, 03:46 PM
Gotta say I didn't really experience Anabeta the same way as everyone seems to preach. Ran back to back bottles but when all was said a done, I just didn't see the value at $70 for both.
Everyone is different I guess...
11-07-2013, 03:57 PM
11-07-2013, 04:06 PM
That's the point. Each person is different. You can't really compare one set of genetics to another for many things.
Typically a skinny guy will respond better to a very hardcore PH and keep their gains because muscle fascia stretching is an important limiting factor to them. Still it's not 20lbs of muscle in 3 weeks, since that is pretty tough for the body to do I bet 90 percent of the people who clam that could add up their protein intake and it wouldn't come close to 20lbs. lol
Thus the allure of the methyl PH is the water gain. There are basically two types, intra-cellular and extra-cellular. Harsh PH's work on intra-cellular water retention which is why you get painful back spasms.
Natural PH's for the most part don't have those effects, but the mass gain is there, just slower and higher quality. The issue with methylated compounds is that they hang around the body for a very long time. This isn't a good thing since that is what often causes the liver issues past people ingesting them.
Most experienced people will tell you that methyl compounds are just not worth the negatives. I personally love how I feel on androgens, thus I take them all the time but I won't do anything methylated at all these days because I just don't want the side effects.
11-07-2013, 04:36 PM
Good insight, right there. ^^
I've ran 2 methyls to date and can see how my perception has completely changed. I did gain 20lbs this last run but that's my first truly successful run and obviously not all of it is pure muscle. +17 now 2 weeks into PCT but weight is going up again finally. I actually want to go back to straight natty products for a while and gain for a few more years before my next venture. I got plenty in the natty tank
11-07-2013, 04:47 PM
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11-07-2013, 04:54 PM
11-07-2013, 05:18 PM
If I see a noticeable enough increase in my total at the meet in Dec then I'll comfortably say that prime and AB have a noticeable strength boost.
I'm also running them for 12 weeks, FWIW.
11-07-2013, 11:56 PM
See, I didn't see any effects with anabeta elite like I did with og anabeta. When I cut, I like to use anabeta + forskolin so I get the full dose of forskolin
11-07-2013, 11:59 PM
11-08-2013, 07:12 AM
After reading a ton of Anabeta logs, most are reporting Anabeta OG is best for bulking and Anabeta Elite is best for recomp/cut. I used Anabeta Elite for 8 weeks during a PCT and agree with the other loggers. Good product experience for me.
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