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    Dr. D goes inside the capsule of Mass FX Black


    Alright, I've mentioned the name... sort of.
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    Dr. D goes inside the capsule of Mass FX Black
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    Awesome! Very informative.
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    Yes sir. I learned a bit myself, thus the reason for the article
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    Quote Originally Posted by amarula View Post
    Dr. D from Dana Houser?
    I believe it's Doogie Howser
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    I believe it's Doogie Howser
    ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnatural View Post
    Alright, I've mentioned the name... sort of.
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    the d1-nma and 7-mf are really effective....
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    Quote Originally Posted by amarula View Post

    ???
    It was a tv show starring Neil Patrick Harris lol
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    "This product only contains 50% of the maximum daily recommended dose, so additional supplements (such as a multi-vitamin) should not contribute enough additional Zinc to take you over the 100mg/day mark."

    Doc is mistaken on the zinc. This product provides 50mg, well above the TUL of 40mg (and actually a major reason I suggest only 3 caps daily):

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    "This product only contains 50% of the maximum daily recommended dose, so additional supplements (such as a multi-vitamin) should not contribute enough additional Zinc to take you over the 100mg/day mark." Doc is mistaken on the zinc. This product provides 50mg, well above the TUL of 40mg (and actually a major reason I suggest only 3 caps daily):
    Hey, Coop! Yes, the TUI level is 40mg, but the conventional DM has been 100mg since forever. It's an arbitrary number I suppose (especially these days) but in my experience it doesn't seem unreasonable. There have been times I have used 100mg elemental equivalence of Zinc for years on end, and never became Copper deficient or presented overt symptoms of excess. Copper deficiency is the primary consideration noted with excessive Zinc, but Copper is not surprisingly associated with women, diabetes, and estrogen excess in men. In fact, Zinc is commonly applied in women as a remedy for excessive Copper accumulation after multiple pregnancies, but from my observation the results are quite trivial unless at least 100mg/d are utilized for extended periods of time. I only get 2mg of supplemental Copper from my vitamin regimen, and that's only because I can't find a good multi with none! Bottom line, don't be scared of Zinc unless your bloodwork indicates that you should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    Hey, Coop! Yes, the TUI level is 40mg, but the conventional DM has been 100mg since forever. It's an arbitrary number I suppose (especially these days) but in my experience it doesn't seem unreasonable. There have been times I have used 100mg elemental equivalence of Zinc for years on end, and never became Copper deficient or presented overt symptoms of excess. Copper deficiency is the primary consideration noted with excessive Zinc, but Copper is not surprisingly associated with women, diabetes, and estrogen excess in men. In fact, Zinc is commonly applied in women as a remedy for excessive Copper accumulation after multiple pregnancies, but from my observation the results are quite trivial unless at least 100mg/d are utilized for extended periods of time. I only get 2mg of supplemental Copper from my vitamin regimen, and that's only because I can't find a good multi with none! Bottom line, don't be scared of Zinc unless your bloodwork indicates that you should be.
    While this may be the case for you, I have read numerous case series on copper deficiency secondary to lower zinc doses than you mentioned (in males). My main concern, however, isn't copper, but rather the strong link between GU issues and zinc excess. That said, it's a matter of chronicity moreso than acute dosing. While I'd prefer to keep the dose lower, you are correct in that a 1-2 bottle run should have minimal effects on copper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    While this may be the case for you, I have read numerous case series on copper deficiency secondary to lower zinc doses than you mentioned (in males). My main concern, however, isn't copper, but rather the strong link between GU issues and zinc excess. That said, it's a matter of chronicity moreso than acute dosing. While I'd prefer to keep the dose lower, you are correct in that a 1-2 bottle run should have minimal effects on copper.
    Coop, could you email me some of those studies. This is coming from a supp nerd standpoint rather than calling you out.
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    Agreed on the last part.

    A good question for you both would be if copper would then be an ideal supplement (also include dose timing) to take with supplements that contain higher amounts of zinc?
    I've heard/seen pro's and con's for taking/not taking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnatural
    Coop, could you email me some of those studies. This is coming from a supp nerd standpoint rather than calling you out.
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    Agreed on the last part.

    A good question for you both would be if copper would then be an ideal supplement (also include dose timing) to take with supplements that contain higher amounts of zinc?
    I've heard/seen pro's and con's for taking/not taking.
    Good question. I would be interested as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnatural View Post
    Coop, could you email me some of those studies. This is coming from a supp nerd standpoint rather than calling you out.
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    Agreed on the last part.

    A good question for you both would be if copper would then be an ideal supplement (also include dose timing) to take with supplements that contain higher amounts of zinc?
    I've heard/seen pro's and con's for taking/not taking.
    For the studies, they should be readily available in any government database on micronutrients. Fairly common knowledge-type stuff (not saying common knowledge for you, but it's info that's out there). It can be a good idea to supplement copper, but be sure to keep that at a safe level as well. Many people don't add up their various sources like multi, sleep aid, etc
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    Hey D, long time no see!

    Copper is a tough one to dial in. I was adding a little copper chlorophyllum(for the chlorophyll per se, not the copper) to my shakes, but the newest data on copper accumulation in the brain halted that practice.
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    Is there anything that can chelate to the copper to keep it from accumulating or help remove it? For instance I believe I read where green tea helps remove iron build up in the brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    Hey D, long time no see!

    Copper is a tough one to dial in. I was adding a little copper chlorophyllum(for the chlorophyll per se, not the copper) to my shakes, but the newest data on copper accumulation in the brain halted that practice.
    Hey Bio! It's been awhile for sure, and it makes me feel good to see you around again.

    I'm not a big fan of Copper, and it's rare that I feel the need to take any. It accumulates tenaciously, causes a cascade of potentially undesirable complications, and then it's tough to selectively extract from the body. I've found that taking ~50-100mg Zinc ED (or even EOD) is just an easy way to antagonize Copper accumulation and it's subsequent expression. I cannot speak for doses over 100mg/day, because I've never experimented with doses over that limit.

    Perhaps it's no longer common knowledge, but Copper is closely related to estrogen metabolism and women's fertility. Just the opposite of Zinc, which is crucial to male fertility. Also, the neurological effects of Copper have long been associated with emotional liability, and the characteristic feminine mental pathology in general. Zinc is the opposite, and has been associated with masculinity for countless millennia by most cultures around the world.

    For example, here's a symbol which is probably familiar to most people...



    It's the alchemical symbol for Copper. However, without the proper esoteric training and insight people probably just see it as the symbol for "female". Even this demonstrates how femininity is in fact synonymous with Copper, and consider the implications of that. It's a shame, but many a bright and aspiring medical student has lost sleep stressing over his MCAT, but has no clue where the true origins of his interest are rooted. Thus, such students become well-trained, presumptuous technicians who can recite conventional prescriptions very well, but they abdicate being the great doctor/bio-engineer they could have been because they never recognized the fundamental premise. The Caduceus is another old hint in modern medicine, but if a student is not compelled to seek Hermetic knowledge before college, even the best of professors can't give him a desire he never possessed.

    Here's a good link (see below) where an MD summarizes the relationship between Zinc and Copper quite concisely. It's an interesting read indeed, and supports my observations and assertion that the Zinc in 3-4 caps of MFXB is dosed appropriate to the demographic it was designed for.

    http://drlwilson.com/Articles/copper...y_syndrome.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    It was a tv show starring Neil Patrick Harris lol


    Neil used to have girls hanging all over him constantly,
    but then he started to neglect his Zinc intake, and only took Copper supps faithfully everyday... nuf said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D

    Neil used to have girls hanging all over him constantly,
    but then he started to neglect his Zinc intake, and only took Copper supps faithfully everyday... nuf said.
    Lmao
    I guess the Moral of the story is take your zinc mmmkay.
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