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    Need a new pre workout (RIP CRAZE)


    So as most of us know Driven Sports craze is now officially discontinued everywhere. I've use craze for 2 years straight and it never failed me once. I love the energy/focus from it. Feels like aderall to me. Anyway I'm in need of a new preworkout and need you guys opinions on whats good. I'm looking for a preworkout with the best focus and energy. Is here any preworkout with energy and focus similar to craze ???

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    Try some Focus XT with Iforce Potassium Nitrate

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    Gameday. Our dendrobium is lab-tested to be free of illegal / spiked / otherwise nasty stuff. Safe and compliant!
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    But is your dendrobium lab-tested to contain useful / effective / otherwise beneficial stuff?

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    I am so sick of these threads.
    There is a product reviews section. Read up and make an educated decision.
    Research the latest and greatest preworkout ingredients.

    The secret isn't in the name or the brand. It's in the science.

    I like something with agmatine, citruline, nitrates, or GMS.
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    I'm just looking for energy / focus. Idc about pump. I have UG stuff for that. Ive gone by reviews and the science before and have tried them and they never did the job in terms of energy. Craze seemed to be king in that catagory. My question was opinions on what supplement is closest to craze so I can get an idea.
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    Why dont you give me an educated answer instead of bitching in my thread FL3X .I never go by brand name. I always go by ingredient profile and reviews. I just wanted to see if anyone experienced a pre workout similar to craze.
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    I have doubts that dendrobium can actually work as a stimulant in humans.
    Maybe in rats but there is a general lack of studies on humans in that aspect.
    If it contains dendrobium and gives you energy, my guess is it is spiked with other legal stimulants.

    I've experimented with some different dendro preworkouts and haven't noticed any increased energy that a pre without it would give me.

    Alphamine has treated me pretty well for energy.

    And sorry OP I wasn't trying to scold you my friend. Just trying to help
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    stimul8 cracks me out like craze did
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    I know all is good bud . I've tried products with dendronium and they honestly didn't work. I know craze was no doubt spiked with something. On a empty stomach it totally kills my apatite and the mental focus is just insane. I made this thread hoping to find a a different product that could be possibly spiked and work similar to craze lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liftallday123 View Post
    I know all is good bud . I've tried products with dendronium and they honestly didn't work. I know craze was no doubt spiked with something. On a empty stomach it totally kills my apatite and the mental focus is just insane. I made this thread hoping to find a a different product that could be possibly spiked and work similar to craze lol.
    I tried Detonate by Gaspari and felt pretty similar to the OG Craze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post

    I tried Detonate by Gaspari and felt pretty similar to the OG Craze.
    Thats because DS supplied Gaspari with the raws

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post

    Thats because DS supplied Gaspari with the raws
    I know and it tested the same as Craze.
    I had to find out for myself though
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    But is your dendrobium lab-tested to contain useful / effective / otherwise beneficial stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    But is your dendrobium lab-tested to contain useful / effective / otherwise beneficial stuff? -- OP - Take a look at Focus XT and stack it with some of our bulk products such as agmatine and COP
    OP : buy their PWO, then two of their other products
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    Im all about conquer and hemavol. Though I've only tried craze once in a trial size and loved it! To bad about that stuff.
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    So Drive Sports supplied materials to gaspari's detonate ? Source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    OP : buy their PWO, then two of their other products
    OP: buy our dendrobium alkaloids, what alkaloids? Who knows. What do they do? We dont know that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liftallday123 View Post
    So as most of us know Driven Sports craze is now officially discontinued everywhere. I've use craze for 2 years straight and it never failed me once. I love the energy/focus from it. Feels like aderall to me. Anyway I'm in need of a new preworkout and need you guys opinions on whats good. I'm looking for a preworkout with the best focus and energy. Is here any preworkout with energy and focus similar to craze ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post

    Focus xt. Nuffsaid... focus is great and energy is.clean. also won't break the.bank.
    Enhanced + stim free FXT anyone?
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    For superior energy to Craze: PES Enhanced (pumps and performance too). For Focus, Focus XT. For the brave: 1 scoop Enhanced + 1 scoop Stim-free Focus XT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    For superior energy to Craze: PES Enhanced (pumps and performance too). For Focus, Focus XT. For the brave: 1 scoop Enhanced + 1 scoop Stim-free Focus XT.
    This has been my go-to lately. Love both products
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    For superior energy to Craze: PES Enhanced (pumps and performance too). For Focus, Focus XT. For the brave: 1 scoop Enhanced + 1 scoop Stim-free Focus XT.
    I've been liking Purus Condense lately along with hemavol.

    And OP, Cahill and Gaspari used the same "dendrobium" which is why both were spiked with the ETH amphetamine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    For superior energy to Craze: PES Enhanced (pumps and performance too). For Focus, Focus XT. For the brave: 1 scoop Enhanced + 1 scoop Stim-free Focus XT.
    Go hard or go home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post

    Enhanced + stim free FXT anyone?
    I'm a big fan of this too
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    Enhanced + high volume + ALCAR


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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    Enhanced + high volume + ALCAR

    Focused, pumped, primed for battle.
    Ive been using Enhanced and High Volume on my non leg days and its my fav combo so far. High volume is the best non stim I've used.
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    I like potassium nitrates and hemavol + a guzzle of alphamine= good mood, energy, and sick pumpage.
    admittedly I love the tunnel vision from craze
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    Focus XT is an awesome product, I'm thinking of picking up the stim free version and giving it a run with Uncut, which should be an awesome focus & energy stack.
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    never used craze.....but since the 1,3 dimeth scare, conquer has been my go to preworkout
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    If just energy and focus is your concern then look into.
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    I'm partial to the third obviously but I can honestly say I've used the other two as well and they deliver in terms of energy. and at two scoops superSize is no slouch either plus the pumps are awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flightposite View Post
    If just energy and focus is your concern then look into.
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    I'm partial to the third obviously but I can honestly say I've used the other two as well and they deliver in terms of energy. and at two scoops superSize is no slouch either plus the pumps are awesome.
    recently i've been thinking of picking up some supersize and combining it with conquer.....1 scoop each should be amazing for energy and endurance
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    Thoughts on this? It's kind of expensive but has a decent amount of stuff. Dosages seem ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    For superior energy to Craze: PES Enhanced (pumps and performance too). For Focus, Focus XT. For the brave: 1 scoop Enhanced + 1 scoop Stim-free Focus XT.
    I thought you said that mixing L-tyrosine and yohimbine was a bad idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AppNutJeff View Post
    Focus XT is an awesome product, I'm thinking of picking up the stim free version and giving it a run with Uncut, which should be an awesome focus & energy stack.
    im using this now. havent tried them together yet though. no need to with uncut, but may do it for funsies.
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    AppNut Uncut if you're a powerlifter or a weightlifter (strength), and PES Enhanced (energy and pumps for days) if you're a bodybuilder. This is what I deduced by reading some threads here and reviews, haven't tried either but samples are coming.
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    also, for o.p add 12.5/25 mg ephedrine to many products and bam, you have your extra energy and focus.

    This and/or Focus XT caffeine free, plus caffeine based preworkouts make for great workouts. I liked Condensed with this combo because of the pumps,.strength and endurance. Was pretty wicked
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    Thoughts on this? It's kind of expensive but has a decent amount of stuff. Dosages seem ok

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    Very complete formula, seems to me. Never used tough
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    Thoughts on this? It's kind of expensive but has a decent amount of stuff. Dosages seem ok

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    Very complete formula, seems to me. Never used tough
  

  
 

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