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    What is the name of that pre workout?. The one that the label was posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I thought you said that mixing L-tyrosine and yohimbine was a bad idea?
    I think Yohimbine HCL and L-Tyrosine is a no go. Could be wrong through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by good2Badawg View Post
    also, for o.p add 12.5/25 mg ephedrine to many products and bam, you have your extra energy and focus.

    This and/or Focus XT caffeine free, plus caffeine based preworkouts make for great workouts. I liked Condensed with this combo because of the pumps,.strength and endurance. Was pretty wicked
    Mah dude knows what he's talking about. Anything with ephedrine is the ultimate pre
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    What is the name of that pre workout?. The one that the label was posted.
    I think that is from the brand JYM (Jim Stoppanni's brand)
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    PNI Prodigy... next best focus to craze. And great pumps. stacked with high volume or hemoval would be awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by amarula View Post
    I think that is from the brand JYM (Jim Stoppanni's brand)
    It is. I just have seen some hate for him so I wanted to see what people thought without the name attached. The profile looks good but $40 for 20 servings is steep. However if you use 2 separate products to match it then it's not too bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    I think Yohimbine HCL and L-Tyrosine is a no go. Could be wrong through.
    That is correct.


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    Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    PM me your address I'll send you some
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    Haven't tried the new stuff but the OG Prodigy always hurt my stomach, and my tub ended up looking like it rotted
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    I am so sick of these threads.
    There is a product reviews section. Read up and make an educated decision.
    Research the latest and greatest preworkout ingredients.

    The secret isn't in the name or the brand. It's in the science.

    I like something with agmatine, citruline, nitrates, or GMS.
    That has me thinking San Fierce Domination. I believe it has all of those, however, i believe they may have ditched the nitrates. I have never been sure why they did that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    That has me thinking San Fierce Domination. I believe it has all of those, however, i believe they may have ditched the nitrates. I have never been sure why they did that.
    I know nothing about it, but the logical answer would be that they were patent infringing and didn't want to pay a licensing fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Haven't tried the new stuff but the OG Prodigy always hurt my stomach, and my tub ended up looking like it rotted
    Let me send you some of our new stuff and if it hurts your belly ill send you 2 tums and a mint for free bro :-) srs PM bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I thought you said that mixing L-tyrosine and yohimbine was a bad idea?
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    I'm not saying this just because I'm a brand ambassador but Ctdlabs Noxipro old formula with DMAA also the second generation of Ctdlabs Noxipro Chrome has plenty of different kinds of phenylalanine (PEA) for a nice amount focus. I personally know because I've taken both products & I tend to kick it up a notch with the racetam nootropic ctdlabs (noopept). I have also taken PES Enhanced that formula is all about muscle mind connection & concentration but the product does work & it will give you nice pumps due to the leucine nitrate it contains, it gives a nice little buzz in the stims department but its nothing that will have you buzzed out like crazy, it gives a nice clean energy it only contains 125mg caffeine per scoop. I've heard some good things about LGI Unleashed as well. Another I've taken is ANS Ritual as well, which has Dendrobium in it also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post

    Let me send you some of our new stuff and if it hurts your belly ill send you 2 tums and a mint for free bro :-) srs PM bro
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    It's hard to get any good recommendations out of threads like this before it turns into a rep war.

    That's why I'm thankful for the reviews section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    PM me your address I'll send you some
    New prodigy samples bro give that a try :-)
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    I can see what you mean lol. Now I do hate these threads. Sticking to review section for now on haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    It's hard to get any good recommendations out of threads like this before it turns into a rep war. That's why I'm thankful for the reviews section.
    I was thinking the same thing. This forum is starting to get overrun by a few companies too
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    I was thinking the same thing. This forum is starting to get overrun by a few companies too
    There is a difference. I see a common trend of some newer reps who only recommend their companies products, literally go into every "Pre-workout" thread and push theirs, every test booster thread, push theirs, it's getting a bit much.

    That being said I had another amazing workout with Athletix High Volume again today.....big fan
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post

    There is a difference. I see a common trend of some newer reps who only recommend their companies products, literally go into every "Pre-workout" thread and push theirs, every test booster thread, push theirs, it's getting a bit much.

    That being said I had another amazing workout with Athletix High Volume again today.....big fan
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
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    I like stacking Hemavol with various stim preworkouts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkgreene88 View Post
    I like stacking Hemavol with various stim preworkouts!
    seems like thats the way to go....i got free tub of a preworkout that i'd never use and not a huge fan of the profile, but i'm going to add hemavol to it and that should really increase the effectiveness
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    I do the same with High Volume
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    Another you may like is ANS Dilate I've used it a few times stacked with various preworkouts & I've also used Vein from ImageSports as well.
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    It's discontinued now? I swear, the bannings on these things are too much.
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    Just wanted to say on a side note that if it's just pure focus also give Ultima from OmegaSports a try. Only if you want a non-stim preworkout. But, the focus of the product is amazing as well. Others for focus as well you may want to keep an eye out for are Genomyx Origin & Powermax by Performax
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
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    I found a source for detonate as well and my local supp store has some also. Btw I received 5 bottles of craze the other day
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    I found a source for detonate as well and my local supp store has some also. Btw I received 5 bottles of craze the other day
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    It is the original. Used it before my work out today. Feels like I'm on aderall when I take the original craze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post

    There is a difference. I see a common trend of some newer reps who only recommend their companies products, literally go into every "Pre-workout" thread and push theirs, every test booster thread, push theirs, it's getting a bit much.

    That being said I had another amazing workout with Athletix High Volume again today.....big fan
    Or reps who rec the same product in every single thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post

    Or reps who rec the same product in every single thread
    I completely agree
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