X Factor vs. X Factor Advanced for someone w/ joint issues
- 10-18-2013, 05:49 AM
X Factor vs. X Factor Advanced for someone w/ joint issues
I have seen lots of threads on this and I know the basic consensus is that the original is better if your joints are healthy, but Advanced is better for those with joint issues or people who got sides from the original. I am using advanced right now and LOVE it! However, the original is currently on an unbelievable sale at a website I probably cannot mention (2 100 ct. bottles for 60 USD w/ free shipping to US), so I am seriously considering picking up a bunch. My question is: how big is the difference to joints between the two? If it is generally a very small difference, I will just go for this sale; however, if the original is much harsher on joints, I will probably opt to wait for the advanced to go on sale (I have had my meniscus shaved already, and I grapple 3-5 times a week). What do you all think? Thanks!!!
- 10-18-2013, 06:24 AM
I personally prefer the original, however the advanced is supposedly "friendlier" to the joints due to some additions to the product.
10-18-2013, 06:50 AM
10-18-2013, 07:02 AM
In all honesty if you have no inflammatory issues or other health related issues you will be fine and in my experience and any good product which lowers estrogen was worse for my joints. Also XFA advanced is better for your joints but got some it won't be even noticeable unless you joints are really bad, even then is all user dependant and individual. Hope that helps
10-18-2013, 07:09 AM
Most importantly, most people say the difference between them isn't big anyway?
Are the headaches worse on the original or would that side be the same with both?
10-18-2013, 03:44 PM
if you are worried about joint issues with the OG then you can supplement with a low dose of fish oil as XF advanced does
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10-18-2013, 03:54 PM
10-18-2013, 05:19 PM
I prefer straight ArA (x-gels or xfactor). Stocking up when they are on sale like that is a smart choice.
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10-18-2013, 05:30 PM
I jumped on the $60 for 200 ct and then a 100 ct for $35 on top of that
Anyhoot OP, do you currently have tendonitis of any sort? If you do, I would be careful when taking ArA, it could definitely aggravate it. As for personal experience, I was recovering from a pretty debilitating forearm tendonitis when I started using XF a few months back. I was careful and avoided things that I knew was going to aggravate the injury, in the end, made very good progress, and didn't bust my injury further (it actually recovered in the end, right now I have trigger finger in my left hand but it only locks out when it's cold). So, if your issues aren't too serious, it's probably ok to use XF.
10-18-2013, 05:38 PM
10-18-2013, 05:41 PM
Boswellia and fish oil will help alleviate joint pain and headaches.
Joint pain and headache are minor side effects though, most (myself included) dont experience them, or experience them to a negligible extent.
10-18-2013, 05:52 PM
10-18-2013, 09:57 PM
I did also get headaches once or twice, but I guess since aspirin is supposed to be advised when using ArA if you aren't using carnitine (apparently it does the same thing as carnitine, platelet aggregation, which I will look into over the next few weeks), I could always take aspirin if I get headaches from ArA.
Overall my sides have been so mild on the advanced formula I was hoping to stick with that, but if worse comes to worse I could take a cap of fish oil and maybe a cap of cissus with XFO and see if that reduces sides while keeping effects mostly untouched at a low dose. Thanks!
10-18-2013, 09:59 PM
10-18-2013, 11:31 PM
10-19-2013, 02:38 AM
10-19-2013, 04:27 AM
Fish oil directly competes for ArA metabolism, so you'd either omit it from an ArA cycle or use it at a later time. Arguably the worst thing you can add to an ArA cycle is fish oil at the exact same time. Worse than NSAIDs and all the other stuff you guys fear.
10-19-2013, 04:28 AM
10-19-2013, 04:38 AM
If you don't mind me asking (I'm sure you've already explained it somewhere else), what does cause the headaches? I haven't gotten them often, but would there be any reason to think I would get them more on the original formula?
And low-dose aspirin will not disrupt the effects of ArA, right? So, if I get any headaches, I can use that to combat them without compromising effectiveness? I read somewhere [I think from you in addition to others] that it is beneficial in the same way as carnitine. Thanks , Coop!
10-19-2013, 05:17 AM
Low-dose aspirin is not an issue with ArA, but it won't affect headaches at such a low concentration either. Most of its activity is derived from irreversible acetyl-group donation to COX-1 prior to liver entry.
10-19-2013, 08:28 AM
10-21-2013, 05:37 PM
Mr Cooper, you represent a competing company. Please start acting responsibly on their behalf and keeping you opinion away from public forums.
10-21-2013, 09:04 PM
10-21-2013, 09:08 PM
I have used magnesium acetate in the past to treat ArA headaches and it always worked.
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10-21-2013, 09:10 PM
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10-22-2013, 12:17 AM
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