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    Adaptogens?


    Anyone use these, if so which ones and why & what effective dosage?

    Im interested in the ones which have positive effects on performance primarily, but also ones with health benefits to.

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    Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera: preferably Sensoril): Stress relief, improved sleep, and performance enhancement. I take 200mg (Abyss UP) or up to 450mg (3 caps Bioforge) when I use it. Haven't used it standalone.

    Rhodiola Rosea (standardized to 3% rosavins and 1% salidroside): Stress relief and energy (reduced fatigue). Too much is just as inefficient as too little. I prefer 500mg pre-workout or upon waking (it can be somewhat stimulating).

    Bacopa Monnieri (50% Bacopasides): Nootropic and anxiety relief.

    Those are the three I use most often. Sure others can throw in more options as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera: preferably Sensoril): Stress relief, improved sleep, and performance enhancement. I take 200mg (Abyss UP) or up to 450mg (3 caps Bioforge) when I use it. Haven't used it standalone.

    Rhodiola Rosea (standardized to 3% rosavins and 1% salidroside): Stress relief and energy (reduced fatigue). Too much is just as inefficient as too little. I prefer 500mg pre-workout or upon waking (it can be somewhat stimulating).

    Bacopa Monnieri (50% Bacopasides): Nootropic and anxiety relief.

    Those are the three I use most often. Sure others can throw in more options as well.
    Strong post.

    Rhodiola Rosea was one interested in. Trouble is I can't find many products which contain solely that or ones without proprietary blends
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    Strong post.

    Rhodiola Rosea was one interested in. Trouble is I can't find many products which contain solely that or ones without proprietary blends
    They're everywhere. Lots of brands of rhodiola at vitamin shoppe, etc. Apparently a lot of people consider the shr-5 extract the best, but I haven't tried it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    Strong post.

    Rhodiola Rosea was one interested in. Trouble is I can't find many products which contain solely that or ones without proprietary blends
    NOW has a standalone RR product and I know T-Nation does as well. The effects seem to be acute so a dose pre workout should suffice.
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    I love Rhodiola Rosea. I notice a big difference when using it. Compete includes it in it's formula in the "mental edge complex"
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    Coincidentally, after posting in this thread I just saw Herb Pharm brand rhodiola at walgreens. Just bought it. Will let you guys know if it's worth a crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post

    NOW has a standalone RR product and I know T-Nation does as well. The effects seem to be acute so a dose pre workout should suffice.
    Acute?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    Acute?
    Yes, purportedly, taking RR makes you more attractive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcc80 View Post
    Coincidentally, after posting in this thread I just saw Herb Pharm brand rhodiola at walgreens. Just bought it. Will let you guys know if it's worth a crap.
    And to follow up, this one isn't very impressive. I used to like bulk powder rhodiola from some sites
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    Acute?
    as in it works the first time and does not need chronic dosing to be effective
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    I also recommend the aforementioned adaptogens. Currently experimenting with Korean/red ginseng. Really seems to shine on days where I am fatigued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera: preferably Sensoril): Stress relief, improved sleep, and performance enhancement. I take 200mg (Abyss UP) or up to 450mg (3 caps Bioforge) when I use it. Haven't used it standalone.

    Rhodiola Rosea (standardized to 3% rosavins and 1% salidroside): Stress relief and energy (reduced fatigue). Too much is just as inefficient as too little. I prefer 500mg pre-workout or upon waking (it can be somewhat stimulating).

    Bacopa Monnieri (50% Bacopasides): Nootropic and anxiety relief.

    Those are the three I use most often. Sure others can throw in more options as well.
    These three are king. The amount of human evidence is overwhelming
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera: preferably Sensoril): Stress relief, improved sleep, and performance enhancement. I take 200mg (Abyss UP) or up to 450mg (3 caps Bioforge) when I use it. Haven't used it standalone.

    Rhodiola Rosea (standardized to 3% rosavins and 1% salidroside): Stress relief and energy (reduced fatigue). Too much is just as inefficient as too little. I prefer 500mg pre-workout or upon waking (it can be somewhat stimulating).

    Bacopa Monnieri (50% Bacopasides): Nootropic and anxiety relief.

    Those are the three I use most often. Sure others can throw in more options as well.
    Haven't even heard of that last one. Looks like I have some Googling to do. What's your favorite brand? I have ashwaganda on the way now to try to help me stay asleep all night and I am combining with relora as I heard the two are great together pre bed. How expensive is backpack? Thanks for the new info!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    Anyone use these, if so which ones and why & what effective dosage?

    Im interested in the ones which have positive effects on performance primarily, but also ones with health benefits to.
    Maca has a big following. I have some bulk to try when I get a chance. It's cheap but I haven't tried it so can't say anything from experience. Not sure about performance (depending on what you mean by performance ) but I hear good things about well-being so I got some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrub42 View Post
    Haven't even heard of that last one. Looks like I have some Googling to do. What's your favorite brand? I have ashwaganda on the way now to try to help me stay asleep all night and I am combining with relora as I heard the two are great together pre bed. How expensive is backpack? Thanks for the new info!
    Alpha-T2 uses a full dose of the proper extract of Bacopa. As for ashwaghanda, make sure it's standardized to a high % of withanolides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcc80 View Post
    They're everywhere. Lots of brands of rhodiola at vitamin shoppe, etc. Apparently a lot of people consider the shr-5 extract the best, but I haven't tried it.
    SHR-5 is just 3% rosavin/1% salidroside. It's not the best, but it is standardized which helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post
    NOW has a standalone RR product and I know T-Nation does as well. The effects seem to be acute so a dose pre workout should suffice.
    Most of rhodiola's effects are actually chronic. Some are acute, e.g. the performance enhancement secondary to increased pain threshold. Others, like anti-fatigue/pro-mood effects, will take months to manifest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Alpha-T2 uses a full dose of the proper extract of Bacopa. As for ashwaghanda, make sure it's standardized to a high % of withanolides.
    I got the NOW ashwaganda as it is the only one Nutraplanet had. How is that one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrub42 View Post
    Haven't even heard of that last one. Looks like I have some Googling to do. What's your favorite brand? I have ashwaganda on the way now to try to help me stay asleep all night and I am combining with relora as I heard the two are great together pre bed. How expensive is backpack? Thanks for the new info!
    Should have just grabbed Abyss UP. It has Sensoril (Ashwagandha) and Relora.

    I used Bacopa several years back, but hadn't used it again until it was put in the updated Alpha T2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    I love Rhodiola Rosea. I notice a big difference when using it. Compete includes it in it's formula in the "mental edge complex"
    I love rhodiola especially pre workout

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Should have just grabbed Abyss UP. It has Sensoril (Ashwagandha) and Relora.

    I used Bacopa several years back, but hadn't used it again until it was put in the updated Alpha T2.
    Oh man that looks awesome. Plus it has gaba which i really like and 5htp in it (haven't tried 5htp but everyone loves it) and it is discounted to like 19 bucks right now...wish this thread got made last week . I wish this thread got made a week ago, haha.

    Any idea how the NOW ashwaganda stacks up? I read somewhere about what the ideal percentage is and I think it's what is in Abyss, but not sure how NOW compares.

    Either way I have those and melatonin on the way and a tub of GABA here so hopefully I can get some Zs from those.

    Honestly I never thought about Alpha T2. I haven't been too interested in thermos as it is like a freakin rain forest here and I am constantly sweating too much (also diet control is the main thing I have trouble with so even with a thermo I might not see much), but it looks pretty interesting. I like the lack of stims as I never like the idea of loading up on stims for weight loss. Does it affect mood and well-being?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cumminslifter View Post
    does anyone have any experience with panax ginseng
    I do - but I am taking it along with a bunch of other things - so, candidly - I cannot attest that it (by itself) does anything specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    I do - but I am taking it along with a bunch of other things - so, candidly - I cannot attest that it (by itself) does anything specific.
    i just read that it is the most popular adaptogen
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    Quote Originally Posted by cumminslifter View Post
    i just read that it is the most popular adaptogen
    I took it a few years ago it was in my centrum performance vitamin. I can say that it gave me a nice little energy boost but this was before i ever took any supplements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cumminslifter View Post
    i just read that it is the most popular adaptogen
    That is one of the reasons it is in my stack.

    I can recommend:

    Relora
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    That is one of the reasons it is in my stack.

    I can recommend:

    Relora
    Bacopa
    5-HTP
    Rhodiola
    never heard of the first 2, will look into them
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    Quote Originally Posted by cumminslifter View Post
    never heard of the first 2, will look into them
    I got some relora on the way now based on user reviews and can't wait to try it. Someone recommended stacking with ashwaganda for a great sleep stack, but I forgot who. I ordered both because of that, though, to keep me down through the night
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrub42 View Post
    Oh man that looks awesome. Plus it has gaba which i really like and 5htp in it (haven't tried 5htp but everyone loves it) and it is discounted to like 19 bucks right now...wish this thread got made last week . I wish this thread got made a week ago, haha.

    Any idea how the NOW ashwaganda stacks up? I read somewhere about what the ideal percentage is and I think it's what is in Abyss, but not sure how NOW compares.

    Either way I have those and melatonin on the way and a tub of GABA here so hopefully I can get some Zs from those.

    Honestly I never thought about Alpha T2. I haven't been too interested in thermos as it is like a freakin rain forest here and I am constantly sweating too much (also diet control is the main thing I have trouble with so even with a thermo I might not see much), but it looks pretty interesting. I like the lack of stims as I never like the idea of loading up on stims for weight loss. Does it affect mood and well-being?

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    You have a label for the NOW product you bought (or link)?

    Bacopa is definetely one of the premier adaptogens IMO. I do feel it gives me a nice calm and stress relief benefit. Bacopa combined with the SA2-A extract in Alpha T2 does seem to have a mood boosting effect.
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