Natural Anabolics?

[Grayson]

Can we get a thread with a list of natural anabolics?

I'll start:

PES Anabeta Elite
USP Labs Prime

 

[allnatural923]

MAN PR-XT
MAN Nolvadren XT

inb4 this thread explodes since there's a metric f*ck-ton of natural anabolics

 

[Heisenberg6]

Food.

 

[kbayne]

ArA + AB/ABE

 

[xhrr]

MAN PR-XT
MAN Nolvadren XT

inb4 this thread explodes since there's a metric f*ck-ton of natural anabolics

no bias of course. I respect reps who can push their own companies products but also offer alternatives such as other companies who also make effective products. Too many guys and not just you only recommend their companies own products. It is a turn off personally but hey I'm just a guy with an opinion.

OP: My favorite product are Forskolin, Anabeta, Bioforge, and formestane.

 

[Patuba]

X-Factor
BioForge
Anabeta

 

[Adizzle1]

Honestly the best all in 1 is by far Alphamax, IMHO.

Some other honorable mentions would be BioForge, ABE, ARA which would all stack really well Alphamax!

 

[abformulations]

Natadrol (the best)
Pr-Xt
Ara

These are the most effective and most proven IMO

Anabeta to some but really didn't do anything for me.

Alphamaxx profile looks really good

 

[mr.cooper69]

Natadrol (the best)
Pr-Xt
Ara

These are the most effective and most proven IMO

Anabeta to some but really didn't do anything for me.

Alphamaxx profile looks really good

You responded to PR-XT but not anabeta? This does not make sense in the context of "anabolism."

 

[mr.cooper69]

no bias of course. I respect reps who can push their own companies products but also offer alternatives such as other companies who also make effective products. Too many guys and not just you only recommend their companies own products. It is a turn off personally but hey I'm just a guy with an opinion.

OP: My favorite product are Forskolin, Anabeta, Bioforge, and formestane.

I pretty much agree with your list, plus ArA and minus formestane (not natural!).

 

[abformulations]

You responded to PR-XT but not anabeta? This does not make sense in the context of "anabolism."

Weird Ik. I meant Anabeta elite. For some strange reason I really didn't feel any effect except hunger at times.

 

[bigflex0]

Anabeta
Natadrol
DAA
ARA

I am sure there are others that are effective but these are my go too's.

 

[bigflex0]

Anabeta
Natadrol
DAA
ARA

I am sure there are others that are effective but these are my go too's.

 

[xhrr]

I pretty much agree with your list, plus ArA and minus formestane (not natural!).

Haha whenever I hear natural I assume legal. I love formestane and hate Ara not because it wasn't effective but my joints ache so bad on it. I wish I could handle the sides because the body comp from it was pronounced.

 

[flightposite]

Natadrol
MassFX Black
Drive
Glycobol
Creatine

Just my short list of a few that I personally like.

 

[rob112]

So are we saying that all these products build new lean muscle?

May be a dumb question but what are we considering anabolic? Definition wise.

I like a lot of the supps mentioned so not trying to cause an uproar.

 

[ironjeep]

creatine monohydrate

 

[iparatroop]

Butter

 

[Raize]

Nothing is going to compare with steroids, however for 18 - 30 year olds: disciplined diet, high quality protein with legitimate fats, especially omega-3 (fish), proper weight resistance training, high intensity cardio, sleep solid 8-9 hours. That's pretty anabolic.

Not a bad idea to add a multivitamin, Vitamin E, Vitamin D3, and make sure to get enough Zinc, Calcium and Magnesium (Transdermal Magnesium is best).

I think those 18 - 30, wanting to be naturally fit: much more than the above is likely wasteful unless it provides some mental motivation enabling you to stick with the above.

That is until you hit mid to late 30's. Then you need to look for things to kick up your natural test that is on a pretty good decline by then. This would be essentially the same as the above with the addition of Transdermal Prasterone (real DHEA) / Pregnenolone and alpha-Naphthoflavone (sine Aromatase increases with age, and with weight gain, that also comes with age). Also, Transdermal Prasterone tends to convert to estrogen in men, however that is why a legitimate AI such as alpha-Naphthoflavone is important.

 

[JD261985]

Nothing is going to compare with steroids, however for 18 - 30 year olds: disciplined diet, high quality protein with legitimate fats, especially omega-3 (fish), proper weight resistance training, high intensity cardio, sleep solid 8-9 hours. That's pretty anabolic.

Not a bad idea to add a multivitamin, Vitamin E, Vitamin D3, and make sure to get enough Zinc, Calcium and Magnesium (Transdermal Magnesium is best).

I think those 18 - 30, wanting to be naturally fit: much more than the above is likely wasteful unless it provides some mental motivation enabling you to stick with the above.

That is until you hit mid to late 30's. Then you need to look for things to kick up your natural test that is on a pretty good decline by then. This would be essentially the same as the above with the addition of Transdermal Prasterone (real DHEA) / Pregnenolone and alpha-Naphthoflavone (sine Aromatase increases with age, and with weight gain, that also comes with age). Also, Transdermal Prasterone tends to convert to estrogen in men, however that is why a legitimate AI such as alpha-Naphthoflavone is important.

People who use gear who say they could achieve the same results naturally have bad gear and have never seen what pharmaceutical grade hormones, peptides, etc can do

 

[Grayson]

People who use gear who say they could achieve the same results naturally have bad gear and have never seen what pharmaceutical grade hormones, peptides, etc can do

Are pharma peptides illegal/banned?

 

[JoeBrooklyn]

Androstene?

 

[SwolenONE]

I havent found anything natural that outperforms X-Factor (arachidonic acid) for lean mass and strength gains.

 

[Jiigzz]

-Anabeta
-X-gels
-bioforge

Im yet to try anything that out performs this combo. I'll add forskolin to this list as well.

 

[Heisenberg6]

-Anabeta -X-gels -bioforge Im yet to try anything that out performs this combo. I'll add forskolin to this list as well.

So are you saying you would run all three of those as a stack or is that overkill?

Also how is bioforge, that is one supplement I have yet to try and really want to.

How does the V3 compare to the pro max? I wish I could use the pro max but it contains Forskolin and I have dosed Forskolin every possible way and it unfortunately tears my stomach apart.

 

[T-Bone]

I like Anabeta, Compound 20, Prime. Original anabeta, not the elite version. I haven't used X-gels only because of medical issues but have not seen or read a bad review about the product.

 

[bolt10]

-Anabeta
-X-gels
-bioforge

Im yet to try anything that out performs this combo. I'll add forskolin to this list as well.

I'll echo this. I keep all these well stocked for use frequently (my forskolin supply right now is quite ridiculous ).

 

[uubiduu]

no one mentioned ursolic acid!

 

[Grayson]

no one mentioned ursolic acid!

I think because in order for it to be effective it must be dosed high and also research has shown that it makes test subjects (rats) infertile.

Whether or not that carries over to humans is the question at hand.

 

[andrew732]

anabeta...

 

[AndroRage]

Honestly the best all in 1 is by far Alphamax, IMHO.

Some other honorable mentions would be BioForge, ABE, ARA which would all stack really well Alphamax!

I will take a wild guess, do Performax labs manufacture Alphamax? That's not a rhetorical question either.

 

[Jiigzz]

So are you saying you would run all three of those as a stack or is that overkill?

Also how is bioforge, that is one supplement I have yet to try and really want to.

How does the V3 compare to the pro max? I wish I could use the pro max but it contains Forskolin and I have dosed Forskolin every possible way and it unfortunately tears my stomach apart.

I would run all three together. All three are very different but strongly compliment each other.

WRT Forskolin, have you used the 95% one that AS offers?

I'll echo this. I keep all these well stocked for use frequently (my forskolin supply right now is quite ridiculous ).

Top stack right here. I'm jealous of your forskolin supply lol

 

[xhrr]

I will take a wild guess, do Performax labs manufacture Alphamax? That's not a rhetorical question either.

It was his "honest" opinion though brah

 

[Adizzle1]

I will take a wild guess, do Performax labs manufacture Alphamax? That's not a rhetorical question either.

Yes we do!

It was his "honest" opinion though brah

Absolutley! Have you seen the profile for Alphamax? It is with out question a top tier testosterone booster! Now whether or not its the absolute best for you is up to you, but IMHO for me its by far one of the most complete testosterone boosters, i can only come up with a couple others that even compete but their price range is generally much higher.

 

[xhrr]

Yes we do!

Absolutley! Have you seen the profile for Alphamax? It is with out question a top tier testosterone booster! Now whether or not its the absolute best for you is up to you, but IMHO for me its by far one of the most complete testosterone boosters, i can only come up with a couple others that even compete but their price range is generally much higher.

Yeah I have. 75 mg arimistane makes it a no go for me.

 

[Adizzle1]

Yeah I have. 75 mg arimistane makes it a no go for me.

We've had a lot of testers that enjoyed 3 caps more then 4 caps. At 3 caps your getting around 57mg of Arimistane but still over 1000mg of Divanil, 225mg L-Dopa and almost 40mg 95% Forskolin. With that the Forskolin is really the only thing on the "low" side, however 1. its synergistic with the rest of the formula 2. Is likely still much more then you get in other products using Forskolin in a prop. blend. And then ofcourse 1 bottle last 6 weeks

 

[AndroRage]

We've had a lot of testers that enjoyed 3 caps more then 4 caps. At 3 caps your getting around 57mg of Arimistane but still over 1000mg of Divanil, 225mg L-Dopa and almost 40mg 95% Forskolin. With that the Forskolin is really the only thing on the "low" side, however 1. its synergistic with the rest of the formula 2. Is likely still much more then you get in other products using Forskolin in a prop. blend. And then ofcourse 1 bottle last 6 weeks

Is it available in the UK as looks like a nice combination... What extract is the L-Dopa?

Is Arimistane similar to what Erase contains or same compound?

 

[Adizzle1]

Is it available in the UK as looks like a nice combination... What extract is the L-Dopa?

Is Arimistane similar to what Erase contains or same compound?

98% L-Dopa.

Arimistane is exact same material.

 

[Jiigzz]

We've had a lot of testers that enjoyed 3 caps more then 4 caps. At 3 caps your getting around 57mg of Arimistane but still over 1000mg of Divanil, 225mg L-Dopa and almost 40mg 95% Forskolin. With that the Forskolin is really the only thing on the "low" side, however 1. its synergistic with the rest of the formula 2. Is likely still much more then you get in other products using Forskolin in a prop. blend. And then ofcourse 1 bottle last 6 weeks

I'm a tad confused but perhaps I read wrong. 4 caps has 100mg of Forskolin but 3 caps only has 40mg?

Anywho, formula looks solid. Be interesting to see how people enjoy it.

 

[Adizzle1]

I'm a tad confused but perhaps I read wrong. 4 caps has 100mg of Forskolin but 3 caps only has 40mg?

Anywho, formula looks solid. Be interesting to see how people enjoy it.

I dont think i said 100mg in that post. I think maybe your referring to another post where i said Alphamax + Forskolin-95 = 100mg Forksolin ie 50mg from each.

But Anyway its 12.5mg of 95% Forskolin per cap, 4 caps per day, 50mg/day.

 

[abformulations]

I dont think i said 100mg in that post. I think maybe your referring to another post where i said Alphamax + Forskolin-95 = 100mg Forksolin ie 50mg from each. But Anyway its 12.5mg of 95% Forskolin per cap, 4 caps per day, 50mg/day.

I'm definitely interested in this.

You have to remember most of AM people are bandwagon jumpers. If it's not PES than they don't talk about it or it's not worth it lmao.

No offense to PES. I love PES but everyone here a all about them, especially how they market on here.lol

 

[BPjohn123]

Great responses, Anabeta, ArA and Forskolin stack is tough to beat.

 

[BPjohn123]

I'm definitely interested in this.

You have to remember most of AM people are bandwagon jumpers. If it's not PES than they don't talk about it or it's not worth it lmao.

No offense to PES. I love PES but everyone here a all about them, especially how they market on here.lol

No offense taken, I think a lot of people respect the fact that we put products out that work. They work so well a lot of companies use our formulas/dosing for their products.

 

[abformulations]

No offense taken, I think a lot of people respect the fact that we put products out that work. They work so well a lot of companies use our formulas/dosing for their products.

Nah u guys do. Lol. I'm always buying PES products. I was just saying that everyone only talks about u guys instead of branching out and having an open mind.

Hats off to y'all for making great sh!t and "GROUPIES" hahahaha lmao

 

[BPjohn123]

Nah u guys do. Lol. I'm always buying PES products. I was just saying that everyone only talks about u guys instead of branching out and having an open mind.

Hats off to y'all for making great sh!t and "GROUPIES" hahahaha lmao

Lol thanks man

 

[Adizzle1]

After Alphamax hits the shelves and we launch our next products i dont think there will be shortage of talk about Performax!

 

[JD261985]

Right now I'm cycling off everything except creatine. Kinda sucks lol

 

[Jiigzz]

I dont think i said 100mg in that post. I think maybe your referring to another post where i said Alphamax + Forskolin-95 = 100mg Forksolin ie 50mg from each.

But Anyway its 12.5mg of 95% Forskolin per cap, 4 caps per day, 50mg/day.

Ah that explains it. Im on my phone so details are easy to miss.

I'm definitely going to try this

 

[SwolenONE]

Great responses, Anabeta, ArA and Forskolin stack is tough to beat.

Thanks for all of the X-Factor/arachidonic acid support in this thread guys.

It's among the best ingredients in sports nutrition, and it is terrific to finally see it beginning to get the attention it deserves!

 

[python93]

Great responses, Anabeta, ArA and Forskolin stack is tough to beat.

Who makes these products?
Also are these ok for a 20 yr old on a bulk or better while on a cut?
And these are all natural rigth?