Craze - The Peer-reviewed published proof

[De__eB]

A methamphetamine analog (N,α-diethyl-phenylethylamine) identified in a mainstream dietary supplement Cohen - 2013 - Drug Testing and Analysis - Wiley Online Library

If you were holding onto hope, it might be time to let it go.

[ccnAbolic]

When will it be back in stock?

[Quadzilla99]

When will it be back in stock?

Once they legalize drugs

[ccnAbolic]

Once they legalize drugs

I'm itchy...

[xR1pp3Rx]

I loved the OG bottle I had.. but when I wrote my review I oddly enough stated how it made me feel like I was taking synthetic canibinnoids. then when this **** storm started they posted a coa that listed all the illegal cannibinoids and amphetimines on it..
I would still use it if it was the OG version. the focus was awesome. and every song on my ipod just kicked ass.

[De__eB]

Further peer-reviewed published proof:

Identification and quantitation of N,α-diethylphenethylamine in preworkout supplements sold via the Internet

[VaughnTrue]

damn...just damn.

[HITFrank]

What about the rest of their products, also spiked?

[schizm]

In4 responses from DS/cahill...

[Montego1]

Saw those links. PA posted them this morning. Very very fun stuff happening. Yaaaaay......

[BigSmith]

What about the rest of their products, also spiked?

Next question that will get answered by a few labs..... Is triazole really all natural herbs like the label says?

Guess the answer? Cahill is going to Jail in a year. That is my prediction.

[DJBeanPole]

I still have two unopened tubs of the OG Craze...

[Bryancap77]

I still have 5 tubs left lol

[rhino67jg]

I will miss craze. Just picked up 4 tubs. Only using it twice a week should last a while.

[DJBeanPole]

I still have 5 tubs left lol

I never really noticed much from a preworkout-standpoint. Its effects seemed to hit me hard and fast and dissipate just as quick...

But using it as a pick me up before going out at night was definitely a good time.

[andrew732]

old news, everyone knew craze had a designer pea. It has never caused withdrawal to me, but it aint dhsea compliant, so kiss craze bye bye.

[amarula]

...
don't know what to say

[McBurly]

If only they would have tested the OG version, Im assuming this was based on the newer one. I would assume it would have higher or more than 1 analog in it.

[De__eB]

old news, everyone knew craze had a designer pea. It has never caused withdrawal to me, but it aint dhsea compliant, so kiss craze bye bye.

Uh, the issue here is that Craze DIDN'T have a 'designer pea' and instead has an illicit drug in it.

[andrew732]

designer pea equals amphetamine, which equals illegal drug....

[De__eB]

designer pea equals amphetamine, which equals illegal drug....

A 'designer PEA' does not have to be an amphetamine or be illegal.

[mw1]

If only they would have tested the OG version, Im assuming this was based on the newer one. I would assume it would have higher or more than 1 analog in it.

I'm pretty sure someone stash away a good bit og OG Craze for testing purposes
with a solid chain of custody

[andrew732]

A 'designer PEA' does not have to be an amphetamine or be illegal.

if it works, then its 90% of the time an amphetamine, and if its not "illegal" its in the "grey area". Like I said before this is old news. What I would like to know is the moa, how does it compare to the heavy hitters.

[mr.cooper69]

Next question that will get answered by a few labs..... Is triazole really all natural herbs like the label says?

Guess the answer? Cahill is going to Jail in a year. That is my prediction.

Can you PM me with details? For personal concern only

[rob112]

Next question that will get answered by a few labs..... Is triazole really all natural herbs like the label says? Guess the answer? Cahill is going to Jail in a year. That is my prediction.

Interesting

[halfhuman]

Ayooo hmmm

[gmanall]

I never got to try it ....well time to go breaking bad

[BBB]

I don't understand these companies. Do they want the industry regulated? This is the kind of ammo the supplement watch dogs need. It's just like PP claiming there products were as good as steroids. There just inviting attention from the feds.

[horizons]

In for drama

[rob112]

I don't understand these companies. Do they want the industry regulated? This is the kind of ammo the supplement watch dogs need. It's just like PP claiming there products were as good as steroids. There just inviting attention from the feds.

It's about the money man

[T-Bone]

[Jiigzz]

While I knew this was coming (ever since PA tested it), Cahill and his cronies need to be prosecuted big time for this.

What makes this all the more worse is that DS tested its own products and claimed them to be safe and pushing that the other tests were either fradulent or from tainted batches. Now we know they were simply trying to mislead people to continue to buy their products.

[Quadzilla99]

While I knew this was coming (ever since PA tested it), Cahill and his cronies need to be prosecuted big time for this.

What makes this all the more worse is that DS tested its own products and claimed them to be safe and pushing that the other tests were either fradulent or from tainted batches. Now we know they were simply trying to mislead people to continue to buy their products.

An important thing to note is that they slandered PA and hit him with that gag order when he found ETH. PA says that he tested like a chitload more batches while he was under the gag order and all of them had ETH had in them. Lot of people don't know this; PA didn't just test one batch and find ETH he found in it like a ton of different tubs.

[Jiigzz]

An important thing to note is that they slandered PA and hit him with that gag order when he found ETH. PA says that he tested like a chitload more batches while he was under the gag order and all of them had ETH had in them. Lot of people don't know this; PA didn't just test one batch and find ETH he found in it like a ton of different tubs.

That I did not know; thanks for the insight.
Even though I dont know PA personally, I was positive that he wouldnt call out DS with such a huge claim unless it were true, so i took his word for it. Seems as though i made a good call.

[xR1pp3Rx]

Next question that will get answered by a few labs..... Is triazole really all natural herbs like the label says?

Guess the answer? Cahill is going to Jail in a year. That is my prediction.

did u do any time over SX?

[VaughnTrue]

Next question that will get answered by a few labs..... Is triazole really all natural herbs like the label says?

Guess the answer? Cahill is going to Jail in a year. That is my prediction.

I...I...just don't understand this line of reasoning.


"When we did it, we were REALLY REALLY SORRY! Matt doing it means he should be in jail!"


Dude, really? Just don't comment on this kind of stuff.

[Touey]

I do is so callously referred to the pot calling the kettle black

[AdelV]

Can you PM me with details? For personal concern only

Me too!

[deuceswild72]

For you that still have some tubs and are looking to make some cash money. That stuff is going on ebay for $100+. All have bids and I even saw one at like $150. Shiznit be CRAZEy.

[VaughnTrue]

For you that still have some tubs and are looking to make some cash money. That stuff is going on ebay for $100+. All have bids and I even saw one at like $150. Shiznit be CRAZEy.

ebay will start removing listings within the next few days in my opinion