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  1. Quote Originally Posted by rhino67jg View Post
    I've been tested at least 3 times at work with the standard drug test. Nothing strange ever came up. Passed every time
    it passes standard drug tests

    it does not pass WADA drug tests
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  2. time to buy some triazole....while i still can!!!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    ebay will start removing listings within the next few days in my opinion
    Mine had been up on eBay for a few days, then got pulled yesterday. I still have some for sale in the Supplement Auction area

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Godstrength View Post
    I've never used this stuff, but I know where I can get some... What is the difference between the old version and new version? If I can get it should I pick it up? 150$ a tub? Wtf
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    Send me a PM ill hook ya up lol

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachment****90 199"/> This was from this morning...thats nuts!
    Lol at anyone who would buy craze for $250. Why buy something containing an illegal substance that mimics meth for $250 when you can go buy meth for $20 bucks.

    Clearly joking :dontflameme:
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  6. I still don't believe it and will continue to use until DS tells me not to do so...

    /troll

    (and this was the response from close to half of forum members on here and around the internet).
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg6 View Post
    Lol at anyone who would buy craze for $250. Why buy something containing an illegal substance that mimics meth for $250 when you can go buy meth for $20 bucks. Clearly joking :dontflameme:

    Lol..... I picked one up for 39$ just for the novelty of it at a well known 3 letter branch chain supplement store.... When I told them what was going on with this stuff they were like WTF??? How come we haven't heard anything? I just read an article where the gov shutdown has affected the process of pulling it.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Godstrength View Post
    Lol..... I picked one up for 39$ just for the novelty of it at a well known 3 letter branch chain supplement store.... When I told them what was going on with this stuff they were like WTF??? How come we haven't heard anything? I just read an article where the gov shutdown has affected the process of pulling it.
    lol
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Godstrength View Post
    Lol..... I picked one up for 39$ just for the novelty of it at a well known 3 letter branch chain supplement store.... When I told them what was going on with this stuff they were like WTF??? How come we haven't heard anything? I just read an article where the gov shutdown has affected the process of pulling it.
    Damn I wish the gov shutdown happened when they banned Superdrol lol

    That's a good idea, there's a little nutritional shop where I live and they have a small bodybuilding section. I think I have seen craze there before I'm about to go buy some for sh*ts and giggles.
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  11. I have 5 bottles. How do we figure out if it's new or old formula? 2 bottles expire 01/15. The other 3 expire sometime in 2016.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by kaikara View Post
    I have 5 bottles. How do we figure out if it's new or old formula? 2 bottles expire 01/15. The other 3 expire sometime in 2016.
    What is the first ingredient?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    What is the first ingredient?
    I'm curious to all 3 of mine list vit c first and creatine mono is first in the prop blend.

  14. Gaspari detonate is spiked with the same stuff. Stopped it after like 4 days when I noticed the effects were different than anything I'd felt before
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    Gaspari detonate is spiked with the same stuff. Stopped it after like 4 days when I noticed the effects were different than anything I'd felt before
    Must be the dendrobium

  16. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    What is the first ingredient?
    Two of them list Trimethylglycine as the first ingredient. (expire 01/15)

    The other three have creatine listed first.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by kaikara View Post

    Two of them list Trimethylglycine as the first ingredient. (expire 01/15)

    The other three have creatine listed first.
    The two with trimethyl first are original. The ones with creatine listed first are the new batches.
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  18. bro you got like 510 $ sitting rite in front of you meow.
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  19. Any legit differences between og and nf? I only have nf with creatine first, but I get that crazy focus/euphoria as well.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    bro you got like 510 $ sitting rite in front of you meow.
    You want to buy them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryancap77 View Post
    Any legit differences between og and nf? I only have nf with creatine first, but I get that crazy focus/euphoria as well.
    This. ^

    My understanding is that it still contains the compound (dendrobium), just in a lesser amount.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by kaikara View Post
    My understanding is that it still contains the compound (dendrobium), just in a lesser amount.
    None of them actually contain dendrobium.

    The "OG" Craze contained high doses of N-benzyl-2-phenylethylamine in addition to N, alpha-diethylphenylethylamine.

    The former was what was responsible for the throat numbness, and the latter responsible for the euphoria/stimulation.

    The majority of tubs (old and new) test positive for N, alpha-diethylphenylethylamine (except for one Grape batch).

  22. Quote Originally Posted by lronFist View Post
    None of them actually contain dendrobium. The "OG" Craze contained high doses of N-benzyl-2-phenylethylamine in addition to N, alpha-diethylphenylethylamine. The former was what was responsible for the throat numbness, and the latter responsible for the euphoria/stimulation. The majority of tubs (old and new) test positive for N, alpha-diethylphenylethylamine (except for one Grape batch).
    Very good to know. I've always heard og is so much better but I assumed it was a sort of "placebo" effect due to general consensus aka going with the flow lol I'm glad I have 5 tubs. I take it twice a week so this should last forevaaaaaah
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  23. I can't imagine what the og was like with how powerful the new version is.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by lronFist View Post
    None of them actually contain dendrobium.

    The "OG" Craze contained high doses of N-benzyl-2-phenylethylamine in addition to N, alpha-diethylphenylethylamine.

    The former was what was responsible for the throat numbness, and the latter responsible for the euphoria/stimulation.

    The majority of tubs (old and new) test positive for N, alpha-diethylphenylethylamine (except for one Grape batch).
    What's the difference between those two compounds and all the other ones listed on the bottle?

    B-Phenylethylamine
    N,N-Dimethyl-B-Phenylethylamine
    N,N-Diethyl-B-Phenylethylamine
    B-Phenylethylamine HCl

  25. Quote Originally Posted by kaikara View Post
    What's the difference between those two compounds and all the other ones listed on the bottle?

    B-Phenylethylamine
    N,N-Dimethyl-B-Phenylethylamine
    N,N-Diethyl-B-Phenylethylamine
    B-Phenylethylamine HCl
    First of all, none of those compounds are actually in Craze.

    The N,N-diethyl-B-PEA is a red herring and position isomer of N, alpha-diethylPEA.

    It was added (to the label) because it could easily fool analysis of Craze constituents (i.e. it has the same MW and some of the same peaks on HPLC).

    N, alpha-diethylPEA has a constituent on the alpha-position, which is a no-go zone with PEA derivatives. It falls within the Federal Analog Act and would be strickly illegal.

    Matt Cahill (owner of DS and formulator of Craze) knew exactly what he was doing when he released this product, which is why he is probably going to spend a lot of time behind bars.
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