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  1. More than likely your HPTA is outta whack from the cycle
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    More than likely your HPTA is outta whack from the cycle
    What blood test do I run to see if it is or is not out of whack?
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  3. I think that my libido is finally coming back. This morning i woke up with an erection and made love to my sexy Thai girl friend. Mmm she was so delicious.

    But this is after 7 days of another PCT of 50mg of Clomid for the first 5 days, then reduced it to 25mg, 40mg of Novla for the past 7 days, reduced Bulbine to 1 capsule for the past 4 days and yesterday I started DAA again.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post
    I think that my libido is finally coming back. This morning i woke up with an erection and made love to my sexy Thai girl friend. Mmm she was so delicious. But this is after 7 days of another PCT of 50mg of Clomid for the first 5 days, then reduced it to 25mg, 40mg of Novla for the past 7 days, reduced Bulbine to 1 capsule for the past 4 days and yesterday I started DAA again.
    Have you tried torem for pct?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post

    Have you tried torem for pct?
    No, put i have some liquid Torem. How does it work and why should I use it instead of clomid and novla?

  6. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post
    No, put i have some liquid Torem. How does it work and why should I use it instead of clomid and novla?
    Well torem for me was extremely helpful in recovering. I always used Clomid but I felt like it was a waste and I was always moody. But for torem it helped my boys come back within two weeks which for me is a record, and you feel better during the day and during sleep. Just a preference for me

  7. Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post

    Well torem for me was extremely helpful in recovering. I always used Clomid but I felt like it was a waste and I was always moody. But for torem it helped my boys come back within two weeks which for me is a record, and you feel better during the day and during sleep. Just a preference for me
    Im going to give it another 2 weeks. Im feeling better. Just sexed my girl again. So i guess im on the road to recovery.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post

    What blood test do I run to see if it is or is not out of whack?
    LH, FSH etc.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post

    LH, FSH etc.
    Thank u

  10. Im dropping the Bulbine today guys. Sorry, it was a waste.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post
    Im dropping the Bulbine today guys. Sorry, it was a waste.
    Send leftovers to me please.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Send leftovers to me please.
    Sure send me your addy.

  13. The search continues....

  14. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post
    Im dropping the Bulbine today guys. Sorry, it was a waste.
    Bulbine didn't have steroid or viagra-like effects.

    It was a waste
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    Bulbine didn't have steroid or viagra-like effects.

    It was a waste
    Are you being facetious? All the claims I have read on it said that it would increase testosterone by over 50% and yes, they said I would have hours of erections. Sounded too good to be true but as usual I got suckered in again. If my testosterone levels were 539 before I took it, then my math tells me that it should be 808.5 afterward. I take bloods Monday but I can tell you I dont feel like Im at 808.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    Bulbine didn't have steroid or viagra-like effects.

    It was a waste
    Other studies looking at testosterone levels note increases of up to 346% of control level in male rats at 50mg/kg bodyweight,[7] although 100mg/kg has been associated with a non-significant decline in testosterone levels below control.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post
    Are you being facetious? All the claims I have read on it said that it would increase testosterone by over 50% and yes, they said I would have hours of erections. Sounded too good to be true but as usual I got suckered in again. If my testosterone levels were 539 before I took it, then my math tells me that it should be 808.5 afterward. I take bloods Monday but I can tell you I dont feel like Im at 808.
    You have been running cycles for 4 straight years. You aren't gonna notice **** from almost any OTC supp
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    You have been running cycles for 4 straight years. You aren't gonna notice **** from almost any OTC supp
    Why?

  19. Probably because 90% of OTC stuff is crap and only tries to mimic what a real cycle does. You already know what a cycle feels like and does, so OTC is not going to compare or feel like it is doing anything.

  20. Has anyone ever used bulbine and had bloods done after a number of weeks? Have considered SNS product but not sure what to think of bulbine in general...

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    Has anyone ever used bulbine and had bloods done after a number of weeks? Have considered SNS product but not sure what to think of bulbine in general...
    I have never seen bloods from just bulbine. But, there is a product called Phytoserms-347 that is highly spoke about on other forums. Plenty of bloods from that product, however it is a blend of Bulbine and Divanil

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    Has anyone ever used bulbine and had bloods done after a number of weeks? Have considered SNS product but not sure what to think of bulbine in general...
    Quote Originally Posted by mechka_grizli View Post

    I have never seen bloods from just bulbine. But, there is a product called Phytoserms-347 that is highly spoke about on other forums. Plenty of bloods from that product, however it is a blend of Bulbine and Divanil
    I used ergo test which is mostly bulbine, zinc, d3, and some herbal estrogen regulators. The product was supposed to boost free and total test and regulate estrogen. I had bloods done twice (as I was beginning to explore possibility of TRT) my free and total test went down during my 4 week run of the product, and my e2 increased and I held lots of water. That's my 2 cents on a bulbine based product. I've been told from reputable sources that herbal anti estrogens can actually lower test... Why or how, I'm not sure. I think there's much better options out there than bulbine and personally will stay away from it now

  23. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    I used ergo test which is mostly bulbine, zinc, d3, and some herbal estrogen regulators. The product was supposed to boost free and total test and regulate estrogen. I had bloods done twice (as I was beginning to explore possibility of TRT) my free and total test went down during my 4 week run of the product, and my e2 increased and I held lots of water. That's my 2 cents on a bulbine based product. I've been told from reputable sources that herbal anti estrogens can actually lower test... Why or how, I'm not sure. I think there's much better options out there than bulbine and personally will stay away from it now
    In all fairness, the amount of bulbine in that product is not listed. As stated above, Bulbine follows a dosing curve. Too much could give a negative affect. You could very well have been dosing too much for your bodyweight

  24. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Probably because 90% of OTC stuff is crap and only tries to mimic what a real cycle does. You already know what a cycle feels like and does, so OTC is not going to compare or feel like it is doing anything.
    About a year or so ago, I was off cycle and was on just Prolactrone, Unleashed and DAA. I was jerking off like a mad man, and I'm 44 now, I was about 43 or 42 then. I don't expect anything OTC to be like AAS; but when you promise 50%-346% increase in Testosterone levels you should be able to back it up.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    Has anyone ever used bulbine and had bloods done after a number of weeks? Have considered SNS product but not sure what to think of bulbine in general...
    I used Bulbine for about 3 weeks. The first week I was taking 2 caps, the next two weeks I went down to 1. I stopped yesterday and Monday I'm getting bloods. I will keep you posted. I weigh 186 lbs. and am now 10.3% body fat, I'm a 44 year old male. I have only been on AAS for about 4 years. The year before that I tried prohormones and although I got huge they shut me down bad. I was missing that bulk recently and wanted to do another cycle, this time with better support and PCT but I have now decided against it. My next cycle will be 800mg of Masteron ethonate twice per week and 250mg Test ethonate once per week. I just dont know how much AI I should use with this. I will start in January.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post
    I used Bulbine for about 3 weeks. The first week I was taking 2 caps, the next two weeks I went down to 1. I stopped yesterday and Monday I'm getting bloods. I will keep you posted. I weigh 186 lbs. and am now 10.3% body fat, I'm a 44 year old male. I have only been on AAS for about 4 years. The year before that I tried prohormones and although I got huge they shut me down bad. I was missing that bulk recently and wanted to do another cycle, this time with better support and PCT but I have now decided against it. My next cycle will be 800mg of Masteron ethonate twice per week and 250mg Test ethonate once per week. I just dont know how much AI I should use with this. I will start in January.
    Its none of my business, but you might want to consider how much time you are taking off between cycles - to allow some type of homeostasis.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    Its none of my business, but you might want to consider how much time you are taking off between cycles - to allow some type of homeostasis.
    No dude I appreciate your concern. many people have told me the same thing. The longest I have been off is 8 weeks. This time I will be off 13 weeks before going back on. I have been off cycle now for 7 weeks and off PCT for 3 weeks but I had to run another mini PCT.

  28. Any concern you will negatively impact the HPTA to the point you will not recover?

    That is a lot.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    Any concern you will negatively impact the HPTA to the point you will not recover?

    That is a lot.
    Yes; but I dont want to over rate this. I have been using AAS for only 4 years. Now while everyone is different, the chances of getting totally shut down for good considering I never did AAS in my youth is small IMO. Right now my Total Test and Free Test are where they should be for my age. I will also check LH and FSH on Monday.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by mechka_grizli View Post

    I have never seen bloods from just bulbine. But, there is a product called Phytoserms-347 that is highly spoke about on other forums. Plenty of bloods from that product, however it is a blend of Bulbine and Divanil
    Probably contains other non disclosed ingredients.
  

  
 

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