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  1. Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    You don't speak Touey's language? Lol
    Touey's language is Love. Or Esperanto.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Were you one of the first to receive your bottles?
    oh yeah. definately, but i also kept using it for many months afterward. i went from weighing 175 to 185 when i was done with it, and i chased it with leucine at an equivalent of 14g sustained release leucine a day and i never lost the weight. i kept the increases on my weights too, although they are much harder to do and i lost a few reps; i would have lowered my weight to get all my usual reps in, but i found i hadnt lost any muscle so i just kept going with it. ironically, i bought it for the pump effect, which wasnt evident unless i was also taking a pump product. i strongly suspect the herbs to that end had promise, but that precaution limited its athletic use. just a theory, but look at viagra; because some guys can get extremely low blood pressure from it, regular check-ups are necessary. pink magic, as i vaguely recall, was designed to keep the n.o from breaking down, which would be similar to viagra. since it had to be sold over the counter though, my theory is that awesomely effective amounts of the stuff could never be recommended or marketed to the masses. when i stopped taking it, i noticed no change in my pumps so that was it for me at the price tag, but i felt it was very innovative and i wouldve like to explore bigger doses of the stuff one day. good stuff in retrospect
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  3. Bump.
    Ursolic acid in oral form was a no go.
    How about topical?
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Bump.
    Ursolic acid in oral form was a no go.
    How about topical?
    good question; nutraplanet has that one that looks interesting for a number of reasons. it looks like it requires a rub down twice a day and i couldnt determine how many servings it has anywhere.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    good question; nutraplanet has that one that looks interesting for a number of reasons. it looks like it requires a rub down twice a day and i couldnt determine how many servings it has anywhere.
    Servings are hard to dictate with topicals. A 225lb man will have more surface area to cover than a 145lb man, therefore the servings will differ.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    man, i miss pink magic. you know its not in the market anymore, so i guess im in the minority but i put 10lbs on most of my sets with that stuff. pick on me about it if you want, but its the truth. im surprized to see prime on alot of peoples list; ive heard of people who dont respond, but im one of these guys that takes it at half-dose (3 caps a day) and it does wonders.
    How long does it take you to feel the effects of Prime?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post
    How long does it take you to feel the effects of Prime?
    i felt absolutely nothing for over 3 weeks. then suddenly my weights startedgoing up like crazy. id say, "that felt alittle light, why not add some more." and id add 40lbs on a set. my bench didnt go up so much, but my squats really went up. i can imagine how p.o.'d someone would be reading the box and finding out they didnt get those kind of results, but i have to say the grass really is greener for some people taking it because people do get those results from it.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    i felt absolutely nothing for over 3 weeks. then suddenly my weights startedgoing up like crazy. id say, "that felt alittle light, why not add some more." and id add 40lbs on a set. my bench didnt go up so much, but my squats really went up. i can imagine how p.o.'d someone would be reading the box and finding out they didnt get those kind of results, but i have to say the grass really is greener for some people taking it because people do get those results from it.
    No increased hunger or muscle fullness? And we're you keeping it to 3 pills a day for those prat 3 weeks?

    I'm thinking of running it alongside X-Gels for the nutrient partitioning component.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post
    No increased hunger or muscle fullness? And we're you keeping it to 3 pills a day for those prat 3 weeks?

    I'm thinking of running it alongside X-Gels for the nutrient partitioning component.
    just do xgels and recompadrol w slin sane for nutrient partitioning. prime is garbage

  10. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post

    I have been sticking with Dymatize Elite XT lately.
    Lots of others give me problems. Mainly throat and GI problems.
    Turns out a lot of companies use wheat gluten in their powders and disguise it as glutamine peptides.
    Syntha 6 would be one of them.
    And at $29.... yuuup. Fudge Brownie in my veins

  11. Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post

    And at $29.... yuuup. Fudge Brownie in my veins
    I just ordered two more tubs lol
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  12. Oh hey does anyone remember that heat shock proteins supplement that MRI came out with years ago?
    I fell to that hype lol. Prickly pear ftw!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    I want to puke

  15. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Gosh... Did people actually believe this fabricated nonsense?

    Anybody remember Kwik Size by Labrada? I bought that bucket of slop for awhile...

  16. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
    "HSPs to the RESCUE"

    Ahahahahahaha WTF

  17. Guys, I been around weight lifting all my life, but just recently in the past few years got serious about my health. But when it comes to supplements, I'm just glad you all paved the way for me not to make some of the mistakes that you all made in the past.

  18. I am 37 years old, other than the staples (creatine, beta alanine, citrulline, and preworkouts) Anabeta Elite/Erase were the first supps that made a noticeable difference. I have been taking stuff on and off for almost 20 years. If you include fat burning supps the old NYC was the only real fat burner that did the trick as well. I have some alphamine and alpha T2 I am going to stack and see if they are the real deal.

  19. Honestly 90% of all natural supplements do nothing for me. Those that truly work as advertised and I see it repeatedly on blood work is iForce Heart Help, nothing corrects my cholesterol better after a cycle and TUDCA always has my AST/ALT in range no matter what I take. Besides that its the basics for me like fish oil, a vitamin and a pre-workout if needed.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  20. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Honestly 90% of all natural supplements do nothing for me. Those that truly work as advertised and I see it repeatedly on blood work is iForce Heart Help, nothing corrects my cholesterol better after a cycle and TUDCA always has my AST/ALT in range no matter what I take. Besides that its the basics for me like fish oil, a vitamin and a pre-workout if needed.
    This pretty much sums up the world of supplements. IMO
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post
    No increased hunger or muscle fullness? And we're you keeping it to 3 pills a day for those prat 3 weeks?I'm thinking of running it alongside X-Gels for the nutrient partitioning component.
    i took the recommeded dosage consistantly every day when it first came out, which was less than it is now i think. (think it was 3 caps a day, plus one on workout days but i never took the extra one) it was along time before the amount per bottle changed, and i only increased when that happened, before switching back. ive never noticed increased hunger, muscle fullness, or "the permanent state of flexion" from it, but there is nothing else like it. i couldnt comment on any nutrient partitioning effect, since i really dont make alot of fat and ive never struggled with my weight.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Oh hey does anyone remember that heat shock proteins supplement that MRI came out with years ago?I fell to that hype lol. Prickly pear ftw!
    yeah, i read the book beforehand too so i shouldve known; in his documented beta-testing where byrd listed what uses could expect, there werent any results, except for a guy that noticed increased sweating or bodyheat or something, and byrd bragged about it.. i think i stopped after a week because the directions basically said you have to cut dietary fiber out in order to get the benefits, which i found to be pretty unrealistic. i can only imagine it doesnt work

  23. Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    yeah, i read the book beforehand too so i shouldve known; in his documented beta-testing where byrd listed what uses could expect, there werent any results, except for a guy that noticed increased sweating or bodyheat or something, and byrd bragged about it.. i think i stopped after a week because the directions basically said you have to cut dietary fiber out in order to get the benefits, which i found to be pretty unrealistic. i can only imagine it doesnt work
    I remember the OG Hemavol contained prickly pear too. No extra gainz to speak of there either.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    word on the street is....when fear factor comes back, one challenge is the jp8 challenge
    This is the ONLY supplement that made me puke after taking it...I tried over and over again before throwing it out, I just remember gagging and a few times I threw up....NASTY

  25. Bump!
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