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  1. Versa 1, cellmass NT, musclepharm Hybrid N.O, TestFreak, creatine decoanate, CLA, ZMA


  2. Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    A list of what actually works is much much shorter.
    What he said
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by gibbons2 View Post
    anything by LG sciences
    Did you ever try there pre workout anadraulic state gt. stuff was strong...but tasted terrible

  4. Quote Originally Posted by bigadam73 View Post

    Did you ever try there pre workout anadraulic state gt. stuff was strong...but tasted terrible
    Oh god the taste! It worked but it was like sand and horrid!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    Remember during beta testing when fears of Versa-1 being another Pink Magic (in terms of efficacy) were hotly denied? Dare we make that assumption again, here?

    I really wanted this supp to work, maybe I should revisit it but use it in conjunction with something else.

    Sometimes hype works TOO well and the supp, while useful, can't match the expectations it garnered.
    We have an entire forum full of non responders I think lol.

    I would rather spend my money on Anabeta Elite and ArA. I know they work! No trying to be an underdog and fix a broken product there lol...
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bigadam73 View Post

    Did you ever try there pre workout anadraulic state gt. stuff was strong...but tasted terrible
    was good, not high on stims and some of the thickest stuff ive ever drank. almost gagged my first time
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    Quote Originally Posted by good2Badawg View Post
    was good, not high on stims and some of the thickest stuff ive ever drank. almost gagged my first time
    Yes it tasted like puke...the things we will do for a killer workout

    Oh driven sports activate xtreme was a huge waste of money
    Versa 1 sucked. I believed the hype
    Jacked micro sucked

  8. Anything from USP, hype machine and sheep

  9. Quote Originally Posted by bigadam73 View Post

    Jacked micro sucked
    In what way?

    What did you expect that you didn't get?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    We have an entire forum full of non responders I think lol.
    Raising hand. I don't know what it is with my body chemistry but I have to dose everything higher than the recommended doses to get any effect. Not just supplements either. I have to dose OTC medications and prescription medications higher than recommended for them to be effective. I just finished up a first run with Anabeta Elite and didn't notice much. No hunger increase, no strength gain, just a little additional muscle fullness.

  11. Ik everyone here are PES lovers and so am I but Anabeta Elite is on my list. I ran two bottles before and didn't see anything.

    Might give it one last shot

    Versa 1- is on the list if taken alone. Great product stacked with a pre workout IMO
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  12. Not really a supplement but AI Cynostane did nothing for me
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  13. Practically everything I bought in the 80's LOL, you younger guys have no idea how good you have it.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by tony soprano View Post
    Raising hand. I don't know what it is with my body chemistry but I have to dose everything higher than the recommended doses to get any effect. Not just supplements either. I have to dose OTC medications and prescription medications higher than recommended for them to be effective. I just finished up a first run with Anabeta Elite and didn't notice much. No hunger increase, no strength gain, just a little additional muscle fullness.
    How long did u run it for? I noticed minor changes till about day 20 then it was off to the races after that.
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  15. alphamine...unless feeling like crap is effective
    versa 1
    hghup....again do negative effective count as effective?
    powerfull
    zma doesn't do anything for me either, similar effects to hghup

    daa is pretty useless for gym results too even though it does boost libido and well being
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    alphamine...unless feeling like crap is effective
    versa 1
    hghup....again do negative effective count as effective?
    powerfull
    zma doesn't do anything for me either, similar effects to hghup

    daa is pretty useless for gym results too even though it does boost libido and well being
    Haven't heard very many complaints with Alphamine....on any forum. Maybe I could send a sample of the international version.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    Haven't heard very many complaints with Alphamine....on any forum. Maybe I could send a sample of the international version.
    i know, i was recommending it to friends based on reviews, then i tried it and wasn't happy with it myself

    like anything thats sent to me, i'll gladly accept samples and give honest feedback
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  18. How could I forget about dark matter by mhp!

    That stuff just made my craps all sorts of wired colors.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    How long did u run it for? I noticed minor changes till about day 20 then it was off to the races after that.
    I ran two 120 count bottles. The first bottle at 4 capsules a day. When I started the second bottle I upped it to 5 capsules a day. I did notice some additional muscle fullness, similar to taking a GDA, but that was about it. I suspect if I upped the dose to 6 capsules a day I'd benefit even more but at the point the cost:benefit ratio is questionable.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    Haven't heard very many complaints with Alphamine....on any forum. Maybe I could send a sample of the international version.
    No appetite control or thermo effect even at 3 scoops for me. I'd have commented but any mention of Alphamine brings Touey out of hiding.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    No appetite control or thermo effect even at 3 scoops for me. I'd have commented but any mention of Alphamine brings Touey out of hiding.
    In the hiding we see the comments are catty-whompus, Piston.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by bigadam73 View Post
    How could I forget about dark matter by mhp!

    That stuff just made my craps all sorts of wired colors.
    I almost forgot about that stuff! I thought I was sick the first time I took a dump after taking that. And it mixed like shat all clumpy!

    Quote Originally Posted by tony soprano View Post
    I ran two 120 count bottles. The first bottle at 4 capsules a day. When I started the second bottle I upped it to 5 capsules a day. I did notice some additional muscle fullness, similar to taking a GDA, but that was about it. I suspect if I upped the dose to 6 capsules a day I'd benefit even more but at the point the cost:benefit ratio is questionable.
    I have read other reviews on it and it seems that the general consensus is that it works really well when stacked with other products test booster ARA and sups like that
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    No appetite control or thermo effect even at 3 scoops for me. I'd have commented but any mention of Alphamine brings Touey out of hiding.
    This is my fourth day taking Alphamine and I haven't noticed any thermo effects either, even at the gym. The appetite suppression is there though, I'd say it's light-moderate in intensity which is perfect in my opinion. I do shake my tub before every use.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post

    No appetite control or thermo effect even at 3 scoops for me. I'd have commented but any mention of Alphamine brings Touey out of hiding.
    Ha...

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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    No appetite control or thermo effect even at 3 scoops for me. I'd have commented but any mention of Alphamine brings Touey out of hiding.
    You think he's going to comment but he's actually right behind you. You took it too far haha
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    I have read other reviews on it and it seems that the general consensus is that it works really well when stacked with other products test booster ARA and sups like that
    I like to focus on one supplement at a time so I can figure out if I'm responding to it. Stacking it with other compounds makes it difficult to figure out what exactly is working.

    I started ArA shortly after finishing the Anabeta Elite and noticed the ArA effects immediately. Most notably strength increases and muscle fullness/pumps. That's at the recommended dose of 4 caps (1 gram) pre-workout. However, in my typical non-responder fashion I get none of the DOMS that everyone associates with ArA. Not that I'm a big fan of DOMS, I just wonder why I have to overdose everything to get comparable results/effects as other people.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by tony soprano View Post
    I like to focus on one supplement at a time so I can figure out if I'm responding to it. Stacking it with other compounds makes it difficult to figure out what exactly is working.

    I started ArA shortly after finishing the Anabeta Elite and noticed the ArA effects immediately. Most notably strength increases and muscle fullness/pumps. That's at the recommended dose of 4 caps (1 gram) pre-workout. However, in my typical non-responder fashion I get none of the DOMS that everyone associates with ArA. Not that I'm a big fan of DOMS, I just wonder why I have to overdose everything to get comparable results/effects as other people.
    Well at 6' 225 your a big boy, and I say that as a complement But TBH the intense DOMS hasnt really hit me either. I mean I get them due to the quality of work outs that im getting but they are in no way debilitating.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by tony soprano View Post
    I just wonder why I have to overdose everything to get comparable results/effects as other people.
    I'd say it's probably a good idea to stay away from cocaine. You'd have an expensive habit.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by tony soprano View Post
    I just wonder why I have to overdose everything to get comparable results/effects as other people.
    Do you have this problem with women as well? Takes 3+ to satisfy you haha
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    Well at 6' 225 your a big boy, and I say that as a complement But TBH the intense DOMS hasnt really hit me either. I mean I get them due to the quality of work outs that im getting but they are in no way debilitating.
    McCrew, I just read your entire Xgels/Anabeta log. Did you notice better results when you increased from 4 to 6 Xgels? You got great results with that stack!

    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    I'd say it's probably a good idea to stay away from cocaine. You'd have an expensive habit.
    Your cocaine reference reminds me of a story. About 4 years ago I had a minor outpatient surgical procedure. The doc prescribed me a single (1) seconal capsule that he instructed me to take ~45 minutes before my surgery. The morning of the surgery I took the seconal and arrived at his office 45 minutes later. I didn't feel a thing. We waited around past the original scheduled surgery time to see if it started to work. I did start to slur my words a bit but that was about it. The doc then decided to administer an IV drip sedative that did finally put me to sleep but then I woke up during the surgery. Ouch.
    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Do you have this problem with women as well? Takes 3+ to satisfy you haha
    I'd be satisfied with just 1 good one!
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