Help! No more Craze :( Need new PWO
- 10-06-2013, 04:11 PM
Help! No more Craze :( Need new PWO
So, long story short, been using+ lately and was really satisfied.
Now , Craze= Gone , meaning I need some new PWO.
What PWO I currently Have:
- C4 (for me it's just ok)
- White Flood (for cycling off creatine)
- Non Caffeine Focus XT (for cycling off caffeine)
What I look for in a PWO (Priority at the top)
- Low Crash/No Crash
I have Hemavol to take care of the pumps, so this is not important to have in my PWO.
Also, I prefer to have a PWO that doesn't have high amounts of caffeine. (Serving Size > 200mg)
Help would be greatly appreciated
- 10-06-2013, 06:18 PM
Mr. Hyde (high stem 419 caffeine), Jack3d AF (lower 100mg of Caffeine per scoop), Razor 8, these are my personal faves atm that may be looking into. Know exactly what ya mean on the C4 its just ok. Hyde gives ya energy for days and that aspect I loved. Jacked is decent as you can add just what you need to it.
Will def see someone drop Stimul8te on here, Gameday(I didnt like that one), and I hear Ritual I hear was decently well but wasn't a knockout.Olympus Labs Forum Rep
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- 10-06-2013, 06:29 PM
10-06-2013, 08:30 PM
C4 would be a great choice because its 135mg per serving, and stacked with Hemavol would be great as well as Potassium Nitrate by Iforce.
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10-06-2013, 09:23 PM
My recommendations would be
Clearshot concentrate from E Pharm or PES Enhanced.
Muscle Pharms new Assault is really good too.
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10-06-2013, 09:39 PM
Like paratroop said. Stimul8 would be perfect. It doesn't give you jitters but it gives the best focus and energy of any supplement I've ever tried. This includes Craze.
Beta testers and loggers who have run this are reporting 3 hour hang times with no crash what so ever.
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10-06-2013, 10:05 PM
Obviously my choice I've done is Alphamine with a cap of Methyl-synephrine. But other options would be for me San Fierce Domination. For no stim I love me some Omega's Ultima.
10-06-2013, 10:19 PM
10-06-2013, 10:23 PM
10-06-2013, 10:49 PM
10-06-2013, 11:25 PM
Noxipro Original w/ 1,3 or Noxipro Chrome.... ooooorrrrrrr I personally like the Stimul8 if I'm not using my own companies products! Props to the Finaflex guys on that product!
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10-06-2013, 11:35 PM
10-07-2013, 12:59 AM
Lecheek speedx3 as close to craze as I have tried also 2nd enhanced. A step down from craze but not a big one.
10-07-2013, 01:09 AM
10-07-2013, 01:28 AM
I am making a list of all the PWO you guys gave me, and I'm going to check about them.
Any more suggestions?
10-07-2013, 03:28 AM
10-07-2013, 03:44 AM
I saw Craze at GNC, of all places, just a couple days ago when I did my monthly clearance section check. Though I suppose it could be a new formula.
I stumbled upon something by accident that is my current favorite, Ultra Alarm by Image Sports, thanks to a free sample I received in a mail order. I believe the gentler formula is called Alarm Ultra, it has a different label design, seen at GNC or Vitamin Shoppe.
Raspberry Lemonade is the only flavor I've tried, and it reminds me of the raspberry part of a snow cone when I was a kid. Insane energy and focus from drinking one serving on the way to the gym. The ingredient profile strikes me as boring and unoriginal, but it somehow packs a hell of a punch. Then again I picked up the tub I have on eBay so who knows if it is fake/spiked or not.
10-07-2013, 05:53 AM
I haven't tried Clearshot but I am confident in PA's stimulant finding capabilities.
10-07-2013, 06:19 AM
10-07-2013, 09:03 AM
Conquer will stack perfectly with your Hemavol, and is low in caffeine(~75mg/serving), but provides great energy, focus, and endurance.
10-07-2013, 09:06 AM
don't forget dexaprine as a pre work out too~
sometimes I just don't wanna mix up a pre work out so ill just pop a good stimmed fat burner.
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10-07-2013, 09:09 AM
10-07-2013, 09:09 AM
Chrck out Conquer my friend. Perfect with Hemavol and low in caffeine. Can't go wrong.
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10-07-2013, 09:23 AM
conquer and hemavol are a match made in heaven, conquer is one of the few "newer" type of preworkouts that really give me good quality energy
10-07-2013, 09:32 AM
10-07-2013, 09:43 AM
Check out the ingredients in Ritual and more importantly how highly each ingredient is dosed, that way you can compare it to others in the same category. I'm highly confident that you'll love Ritual, especially the focus/endurance aspects of the product. Check out the ingredient profile and if you'd like some free samples, P.M. me.
10-07-2013, 09:57 AM
I know it's not powdered but AN Uncut hands down. Since Craze I've gone through SAN Fierce Domination, PES Enhanced, and the new AEN PreSurge.
Uncut gives me crazy focus and great energy, with zero crash. The best part is I can pop 2 caps at 7PM, workout and actually fall asleep by 10:30. I couldn't do that with any of the others.. Especially Craze
10-07-2013, 10:24 AM
10-07-2013, 11:00 AM
10-07-2013, 11:09 AM
10-07-2013, 11:35 AM
10-07-2013, 12:06 PM
I'll join in on the fun! Powermax is a great option for PWO, get your daily creatine dose, no crashes and crazy good focus! Shoot me a PM and we can get some samples for you to give it a shot. PowerMax (40 Servings) Lots of great reviews to back it up!
10-07-2013, 12:15 PM
Ok, I actually counted the ones that got more than 1 vote:
Stimul8e - The ingredients looks really nice, but I could hardly find reviews on it.
Ritual - Looks nice also, but I read some reviews about ppl getting upset stomach.
PES Enhanced - Same as ritual.
ClearShot Concentrate - Ingredients list looks rather slim.
Alphamine - Saw that it has very good reviews, but it's more of a cutting PWO imo.
San Fierce Domination - Looks nice.
Assault - I had the original assault and it was just ok , is the new one so much better?
Conquer - Saw mixed reviews.
BUT, the counting voting system is flawed -most of you guys are reps for some company, so of course you will recommend your own products
is there any rep here that can recommend another company's PWO?
10-07-2013, 12:22 PM
10-07-2013, 12:29 PM
Tons of logs for "Stimul8" in the Finaflex section. I was a beta tester for Stimul8 and can tell you that it's a legit PWO. My other favorites are:
Purus Muscle Marinade
Finaflex Ignite 2
Athletix Sports Acute FX
MAN Sports Gameday
10-07-2013, 01:08 PM
10-07-2013, 03:19 PM
Plus, read up:
High Tower Pharmacology: Top 8 Worst Stimulants of All Time
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
10-07-2013, 03:52 PM
I thought the OP wanted a lower stim product, but I see a lot of people recommending products chop full of stims...
10-07-2013, 04:01 PM
10-07-2013, 04:36 PM
One more for Clearshot. As I wrote in a thread earlier, it is by far the most impressive stimulant I have tried since 1,3. Short list of ingredients doesn't mean ineffective. I believe only 135mg caffeine per serving as well. At 12 bucks, not much to lose.
Muscle Marinade wasn't listed here and is some awesome stuff. Enhanced and Powermax are pretty good as well
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