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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Ok thank you very much for the reply. I have had some samples of conquer and enjoyed it at 2 servings. I didn't buy it as I didn't feel I needed 300mg caffiene to workout. But considering it is at around 150mg, I will pick it up.
    awesome! Glad to hear you'll give it another try!
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    I'll join in on the fun! Powermax is a great option for PWO, get your daily creatine dose, no crashes and crazy good focus! Shoot me a PM and we can get some samples for you to give it a shot. PowerMax (40 Servings) Lots of great reviews to back it up!
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    Ok, I actually counted the ones that got more than 1 vote:

    Stimul8e - The ingredients looks really nice, but I could hardly find reviews on it.
    Ritual - Looks nice also, but I read some reviews about ppl getting upset stomach.
    PES Enhanced - Same as ritual.
    ClearShot Concentrate - Ingredients list looks rather slim.
    Alphamine - Saw that it has very good reviews, but it's more of a cutting PWO imo.
    San Fierce Domination - Looks nice.
    Assault - I had the original assault and it was just ok , is the new one so much better?
    Conquer - Saw mixed reviews.

    BUT, the counting voting system is flawed -most of you guys are reps for some company, so of course you will recommend your own products
    is there any rep here that can recommend another company's PWO?
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    I'd say enhanced, jacked af, and conquer.
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    Tons of logs for "Stimul8" in the Finaflex section. I was a beta tester for Stimul8 and can tell you that it's a legit PWO. My other favorites are:

    PES Enhanced
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizard12 View Post
    Ok, I actually counted the ones that got more than 1 vote:

    Stimul8e - The ingredients looks really nice, but I could hardly find reviews on it.
    Ritual - Looks nice also, but I read some reviews about ppl getting upset stomach.
    PES Enhanced - Same as ritual.
    ClearShot Concentrate - Ingredients list looks rather slim.
    Alphamine - Saw that it has very good reviews, but it's more of a cutting PWO imo.
    San Fierce Domination - Looks nice.
    Assault - I had the original assault and it was just ok , is the new one so much better?
    Conquer - Saw mixed reviews.

    BUT, the counting voting system is flawed -most of you guys are reps for some company, so of course you will recommend your own products
    is there any rep here that can recommend another company's PWO?
    other than conquer, the only other product i've used on that list and enjoyed was ritual....ritual and conquer are two of the better non dmaa preworkouts out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    You haven't tried Stimul8. Most unique stim on da market little buddy. And no it doesn't feel like you are super stimmed up.
    I have indeed tried stimul8, and even spoken with the formulator. It's a lot of stimulants, but it won't provide a low-caffeine energy rush.

    Plus, read up:

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    I thought the OP wanted a lower stim product, but I see a lot of people recommending products chop full of stims...
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I thought the OP wanted a lower stim product, but I see a lot of people recommending products chop full of stims...
    just looking for low amounts of caffeine....nothing about the other stimulants involved
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    One more for Clearshot. As I wrote in a thread earlier, it is by far the most impressive stimulant I have tried since 1,3. Short list of ingredients doesn't mean ineffective. I believe only 135mg caffeine per serving as well. At 12 bucks, not much to lose.

    Muscle Marinade wasn't listed here and is some awesome stuff. Enhanced and Powermax are pretty good as well
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    I would look into Acute FX, not only because it's on sale for $16.61, but reviews have shown it's a very strong pre-workout and imo compares to Craze very well for high energy. Hemavol stacked with it would be a great stack or could stack High Volume with it and get 5g of L-Citrilline per serving, which is about the same as 10g of Citrulline Malate.

    Here is the link to logs that used this combo if your interested in checking it out. Athletix Sports "Acute FX & High Volume STACK" Logs
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post

    Doesnt have high amounts of caffeine but you want something that is Over 200mg Caffeine? Kind of confused on your statement.
    C4 would be a great choice because its 135mg per serving, and stacked with Hemavol would be great as well as Potassium Nitrate by Iforce.

    Look into:
    San Fierce Domination
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    Obviously my choice I've done is Alphamine with a cap of Methyl-synephrine. But other options would be for me San Fierce Domination. For no stim I love me some Omega's Ultima.
    How do you rate SAN's pre workout? Quite interesting profile... Any idea of caffeine content?
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    For a non stim pre try caffeine free focus XT + high volume or if stim is what you're after, SNS caffeine + yohimbe + high volume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizard12 View Post
    Ok, I actually counted the ones that got more than 1 vote:

    Stimul8e - The ingredients looks really nice, but I could hardly find reviews on it.
    Ritual - Looks nice also, but I read some reviews about ppl getting upset stomach.
    PES Enhanced - Same as ritual.
    ClearShot Concentrate - Ingredients list looks rather slim.
    Alphamine - Saw that it has very good reviews, but it's more of a cutting PWO imo.
    San Fierce Domination - Looks nice.
    Assault - I had the original assault and it was just ok , is the new one so much better?
    Conquer - Saw mixed reviews.

    BUT, the counting voting system is flawed -most of you guys are reps for some company, so of course you will recommend your own products
    is there any rep here that can recommend another company's PWO?
    Get enhanced! I am not a rep - it's seriously good. For the second one, get Stim8 .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    I have indeed tried stimul8, and even spoken with the formulator. It's a lot of stimulants, but it won't provide a low-caffeine energy rush.
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    I could say if your not using Stimul8 you should be but after that...

    Muscle Marinade big stim
    Focus Xt great focus
    Game Day good stim good focus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    How do you rate SAN's pre workout? Quite interesting profile... Any idea of caffeine content?
    It was good I thought it would be better than it was cause the profile is really good. But no complaints it was a solid pre. Don't know caffeine content off top of my head sorry.
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    I will echo the statements of those that suggested stimul8 and gameday. Both are great! Not sure on the caffein content but they pack a punch.

    But I'm surprised no one has mentioned SuperSize. It's a great preworkout with zero crash and smooth energy. Very underestimated preworkout in my opinion.
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    HEmavol + Conquer is a really good preworkout! its definitely worth a try
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    ok, atm I'm trying to decide between PES Enhanced and Stimul8.

    Leaning towards Stimul8 tbh just cause the ingredients list looks better to me, only downside both of them do not contain creatine.

    I am probably going to stack them with hemavol, any good creatine product I should stack with them as well ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizard12
    ok, atm I'm trying to decide between PES Enhanced and Stimul8.

    Leaning towards Stimul8 tbh just cause the ingredients list looks better to me, only downside both of them do not contain creatine.

    I am probably going to stack them with hemavol, any good creatine product I should stack with them as well ?
    I like stimul8. Haven't tried enhanced yet. But just ad some creatine mono. Cheap and effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizard12 View Post
    ok, atm I'm trying to decide between PES Enhanced and Stimul8.

    Leaning towards Stimul8 tbh just cause the ingredients list looks better to me, only downside both of them do not contain creatine.

    I am probably going to stack them with hemavol, any good creatine product I should stack with them as well ?
    just grab something like creaplex....just grab a quality mono thats micronized or creapure
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizard12 View Post
    ok, atm I'm trying to decide between PES Enhanced and Stimul8.

    Leaning towards Stimul8 tbh just cause the ingredients list looks better to me, only downside both of them do not contain creatine.

    I am probably going to stack them with hemavol, any good creatine product I should stack with them as well ?
    Check out this deal on Nutraplanet.

    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/r...-freebies.html

    The stack comes with our Crea Trona creatine in a sample size as well as Max Pump. This is a great stack for strength and endurance and has enough of the samples there for you to gauge how you like all three products together.
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    I made an order for that stack, hope I wont be disappointed.

    Also, I keep in mind all other PWO that won most of your votes which are Enhanced, New Assault , Alphamine , Conquer and Muscle Marinade.

    Thank you guys for your help, much appreciated.
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    Tried a stimul8 sample yesterday, just felt jittery and tired. Thumbs down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Tried a stimul8 sample yesterday, just felt jittery and tired. Thumbs down.
    First I've heard of this reaction. Interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Tried a stimul8 sample yesterday, just felt jittery and tired. Thumbs down.
    Try half. And yeah first time I've seen anyone not like it lol. Big fat liar :P
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    I have around 6 more sample packs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I have around 6 more sample packs.
    The big fat liar part was a joke seriously though try half a scoop. Stimul8 isn't designed to make you feel jittery so I think it might have been just a bit too much brother.
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