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What is so hard to understand dude...I've taken cycles in the past and my test has jumped back to normal...several months ago I did another sd cycle, I got labs done a couple weeks ago and it was 170.. I've been off the sd cycle for several months...so I was wondering what natty supps will help give me that alpha feeling and help with test elevation...since my test is so low...I'm going back to doc to get labs done in a few weeks..if test hasn't gone up then maybe a Clomid restart or trt will be optional... Idk what you are implying man you must not comprehend what I'm trying to explain...my test has never stayed low after a cycle until recent, I've done proper cycle and post cycle support ans proper pct, so don't imply that I do not know what I'm doing...thanksOriginally Posted by Spaniard
I gotta go with the spaniard on this one. Stop supplementing, return to your doc with a clean slate to establish a baseline for all of your levels and go from there. The truth is (no matter how much you believe that you know what you're doing) you dug this hole and you're gonna need some help to get out. You've already sought help from a doctor. Give him a fair shake on diagnosis and treatment, but first give him the chance to see you at baseline levels. If you don't like what he has to offer, then go your own route and eat all the DAA and trib you want.
6 weeks of SD? Hope your liver is in better shape than your balls.
Only a failure would refer to the bare minimum as success.
Going to agree as well. OP I understand your question BUT there is no point to ingest a bunch of supps to make you feel better only to give your doc a bogus idea of baseline levels.
You say cycles (plural) so with that if guess either your SERM was shyt or your body is having a harder time recovering (which happens after multiple cycles).
Being only 25 I would want to get to the underlying cause of this. There was NO natty supp that did shyt for me when my levels were at your level. Hcg and TRT was in order and that was after seeing a few docs and multiple blood panels. No more supps bud IMO. Good luck and keep us posted.
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Blay I don't think Spaniard is trying to be offensive. He's just saying trying to self medicate at this point is not the answer. We hear you your going back to the doc in 3 weeks. Great!! You want your levels to be what they are when you go in so the doc can do his job. That means no manipulation of your natural hormone production at this time. Both of these guys are right, you want to come off all supps that could manipulate your hormones especially test boosters before getting bloods
10 mg for 6 weeks...my balls and liver are fineOriginally Posted by iparatroop
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My actual question was what natty stack to take. Not what not to do until I go back and see the doctor...I understand what some of you guys are saying..i started this thread on a positive note for advice not for arguments or questioning my logic...I'm not trying to be a dick or disrespectful I just didn't ask what I shouldn't be taking before labs. Anyway any sooner fans on here? Hopefully the belldozer will have a big game sat
Ya I'm going to hold off till after labs..but I am excited to try the anabeta with either fat smack or alpha t2
try this combo,
pct assist 2 caps am, 2 caps pm.
sns bulbine: 1cap am, 1 cap pm
sns inhibit p: 1 cap am, 1 cap pm
sns glycophase 1 cap am, 1 cap pm
Dpol: 1 tab am, 2 tabs pm