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    Need advice on natty supplements....for the time being


    How's it going fella's? I have been off cycle for about 60 days now. In the past 60 daysd I started back to school, got married, and obtained a promotion at work. I haven't had much time for the gym, but have received some more free time, and I am headed back in (was going at most 3x a week- now going 5) but here is my question. I am staying natural for some time until we have a child. I am so used to simply relying on anabolics to suppress cortisol- as they do that naturally as they are- anabolic and cortisol is- catabolic. I would also like to know the best nutrient prartitioner. If you all would mind dropping some names on which products you prefer I would be grateful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backatit View Post
    How's it going fella's? I have been off cycle for about 60 days now. In the past 60 daysd I started back to school, got married, and obtained a promotion at work. I haven't had much time for the gym, but have received some more free time, and I am headed back in (was going at most 3x a week- now going 5) but here is my question. I am staying natural for some time until we have a child. I am so used to simply relying on anabolics to suppress cortisol- as they do that naturally as they are- anabolic and cortisol is- catabolic. I would also like to know the best nutrient prartitioner. If you all would mind dropping some names on which products you prefer I would be grateful.
    Anabolics can and do increase cortisol and cortisol is not just a catabolic hormone. That being said in certain scenarios its bad. Anywhos I suggest erase or reduce xt for cortisol and a testbooster. Ergotest is one I would recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post

    Anabolics can and do increase cortisol and cortisol is not just a catabolic hormone. That being said in certain scenarios its bad. Anywhos I suggest erase or reduce xt for cortisol and a testbooster. Ergotest is one I would recommend.

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    Erase pro will,not regular erase. But reduce xt is formulated for this very reason.

    Glycophase and recompadrol are two very good GDAs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post

    Erase pro will,not regular erase. But reduce xt is formulated for this very reason.

    Glycophase and recompadrol are two very good GDAs
    The ai in erase reduces cortisol pro and og
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    Anabeta Elite + ArA (X-Gels or X-Factor) + GMS + Carnitine salt of your choice.

    For GDAs I like Recompadrol, Slin Sane v2, and Glycophase.
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    Why are you so concerned with cortisol levels?

    An ArA product like X Gels or X Factor is the closest OTC supp to anabolics IMO. Give them a try with a cortisol control product like erase pro or Reduce XT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    The ai in erase reduces cortisol pro and og
    This.

    OP, cortisol gets a bad rep as it is in fact catabolic, but it is not exclusively catabolic to muscle tissue. Acute spikes of cortisol (e.g. from training) is a very GOOD thing. It's the chronic elevations that you have to worry about when it comes to cortisol.
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    Ahh I wasnt aware that cortisol had some benefits. Nice- ok I will stick with a good AI(I will stick to my pharm grade exemstane) and I will grab a GDA, and some of the above mentioned products. Once the child comes, im going back on, but already- I am not liking the changes to my physique! I know, steroids- are just a supplement- but this will be good...haven't been natty training for some time now. Thanks guys for the input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Anabeta Elite + ArA (X-Gels or X-Factor) + GMS + Carnitine salt of your choice. For GDAs I like Recompadrol, Slin Sane v2, and Glycophase.
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    Reduce xt for cortisol needs,but for overall muscle enhancement and performance you have to check out X-Gels,the feedback is overwhelming,and there's a killer stack going on right now!
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    Erase Pro would be my bet for a decent product. I used it in my last stack with DAA and it worked really well. I don't mind it at all. I feel like Erase Pro Is better than Erase. It seems to be stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    The ai in erase reduces cortisol pro and og
    Ah, then i'm a little confused as to why EP would contain an anti cort if Androsta already controlled cort..

    This from Kevinhy: "The theory of Erase lowering cortisol stems from the fact that 7-oxos conversion to metabolites hogs the 11-b hsd enzyme, similar to dheas conversion to testosterone using the 3b and 17b hsd enzymes. 11b hsd is responsible for converting inactive cortisone into the active form cortisol. Since 7 oxo is competively reducing the total amount of conversion taking place, you're left with less active cortisol.

    Erase is a metabolite of 7-oxo, so we hypothesized the possibility of it being a competitive inhibitor of this enzyme as well. It was pretty much confirmed after all the anecdotal reports we have received, as well as some people that have taken saliva adrenal stress index tests while on erase"

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    I think the ruling may still be out on that one. As far as Cort control I think reduce-XT is the way to go. Erase is a great AI and I always enjoy my erase pro runs as well. Can't go wrong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post

    Ah, then i'm a little confused as to why EP would contain an anti cort if Androsta already controlled cort..

    This from Kevinhy: "The theory of Erase lowering cortisol stems from the fact that 7-oxos conversion to metabolites hogs the 11-b hsd enzyme, similar to dheas conversion to testosterone using the 3b and 17b hsd enzymes. 11b hsd is responsible for converting inactive cortisone into the active form cortisol. Since 7 oxo is competively reducing the total amount of conversion taking place, you're left with less active cortisol.

    Erase is a metabolite of 7-oxo, so we hypothesized the possibility of it being a competitive inhibitor of this enzyme as well. It was pretty much confirmed after all the anecdotal reports we have received, as well as some people that have taken saliva adrenal stress index tests while on erase"

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    Quote Originally Posted by backatit View Post
    How's it going fella's? I have been off cycle for about 60 days now. In the past 60 daysd I started back to school, got married, and obtained a promotion at work. I haven't had much time for the gym, but have received some more free time, and I am headed back in (was going at most 3x a week- now going 5) but here is my question. I am staying natural for some time until we have a child. I am so used to simply relying on anabolics to suppress cortisol- as they do that naturally as they are- anabolic and cortisol is- catabolic. I would also like to know the best nutrient prartitioner. If you all would mind dropping some names on which products you prefer I would be grateful.
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