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    Advice for size? 170-175lbs now


    Right now I weigh 170-175...I'm about 5'11. Looking to put on size and strength.

    Any advice for weights/(reps)/supps? Thanks.

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    I am trying. Lol... Stick to low reps/heavy weights for size right? And thoughts on creatine?
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    http://www.jimwendler.com/2011/12/53...-now-for-sale/

    Buy this. Best twenty bucks you'll ever spend.

    I vary reps. My Squat/Bench/Deads normally stays less than 5 reps but my assistance work varies between 5-20 reps.

    Creatine is good. Some people say they are non responders. I wouldn't consider it to aid directly in weight gain. It's more so an ergogenic aid. Buy some bulk creatine monohydrate. Cheap and effective

    1g of protein per pound of body weight
    .5-1g/lb for fat
    The rest...carbs

    Find an online calculator for TDEE. Add 500 cals on top of that. Eat eat eat.

    If you think you're eating enough, you're probably not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    http://www.jimwendler.com/2011/12/53...-now-for-sale/

    Buy this. Best twenty bucks you'll ever spend.

    I vary reps. My Squat/Bench/Deads normally stays less than 5 reps but my assistance work varies between 5-20 reps.

    Creatine is good. Some people say they are non responders. I wouldn't consider it to aid directly I'm weight gain. It's more so an ergogenic aid. Buy some bulk creatine monohydrate. Cheap and effective

    1g of protein per pound of body weight
    .5-.1g/lb for fat
    The rest...carbs

    Find an online calculator for TDEE. Add 500 cals on top of that. Eat eat eat.

    If you think you're eating enough, you're probably not
    This about sums it up. Depending on your goals,dont neglect certain rep ranges and train the whole spectrum.

    I like starting my workout with 2-5 reps (i.e. On core movements) then for assistance using from 7-15. Different rep targets each week.

    But even better would be to jump on a proven program
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    http://www.jimwendler.com/2011/12/53...-now-for-sale/

    Buy this. Best twenty bucks you'll ever spend.

    I vary reps. My Squat/Bench/Deads normally stays less than 5 reps but my assistance work varies between 5-20 reps.

    Creatine is good. Some people say they are non responders. I wouldn't consider it to aid directly I'm weight gain. It's more so an ergogenic aid. Buy some bulk creatine monohydrate. Cheap and effective

    1g of protein per pound of body weight
    .5-.1g/lb for fat
    The rest...carbs

    Find an online calculator for TDEE. Add 500 cals on top of that. Eat eat eat.

    If you think you're eating enough, you're probably not
    I like when this guy ventures up into the supp section...

    Solid advice. If you aren't taking creatine that is where I would start.
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    Sean surely hit the nail on the head with all points here.

    Especially the one about if you think you are eating enough you probably are not lol.

    I take all but two of my meals to work and the guys I work with are shocked how much food I eat. They are even more shocked when I tell them it's only 2700 calories and I'm cutting. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by clayton2016 View Post
    Right now I weigh 170-175...I'm about 5'11. Looking to put on size and strength.

    Any advice for weights/(reps)/supps? Thanks.
    If you have no experience with strength training then start with stronglifts 5x5 to get your strength up first. You can't do 531 with low numbers. Also don't over do it with the food, do many cals will lead to weight gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quatie View Post

    Also don't over do it with the food, do many cals will lead to weight gain.
    That's kinda the point here lol.
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    Already a ton of good advice.

    Best way to bulk is to increase caloric intake. Supplements will only take you so far, whereas good old solid food will take you all the way.

    Get some Protean, Creatine, Beta-Alanine, Peppermint Infused Fish Oil, and Athletic Multi.

    The advice on the 5/3/1 is solid. You don't want to go much above 6-8 rep range on anything to limit caloric expenditure. Depending on how new you are to lifting 5x5 might be better for you as 5/3/1 is not really designed for beginners from my experiences.
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    good information so far....track your calories and make sure your getting enough, i'd recommend also keep track of your water intake

    other than that: protean, creatine....maybe a preworkout like conquer just for energy and motivation to enjoy the gym more

    health supps: athletic multi, fish oil, maybe even some digestive enzymes
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    I'm 19, have been lifting for awhile but am kicking into over drive now. I have protein, pre workout, fish oil, and casein (just bought today).

    Which lifts to do y'all find the most effective? And I'll try the 5/3/1 method and see how it goes. It just feels like its not near enough reps.
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    Definitely try upping the carbs a little and get proper supplementation. Get atleast a gallon of H2O a day

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    Quote Originally Posted by clayton2016 View Post
    I'm 19, have been lifting for awhile but am kicking into over drive now. I have protein, pre workout, fish oil, and casein (just bought today).

    Which lifts to do y'all find the most effective? And I'll try the 5/3/1 method and see how it goes. It just feels like its not near enough reps.
    Do 531 work sets then add in higher rep assistant work if you feel you need higher reps and profit.
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    So do 5/3/1 as much weight as possible, then do others after if I feel the need?
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    Very simple...eat above maintenance macros consistently for an extended period of time and make sure to get most if not all from good whole food sources. Train hard, get adequate rest and apply smart supplementation and you'll be good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clayton2016 View Post
    So do 5/3/1 as much weight as possible, then do others after if I feel the need?
    No. 5/3/1 is just the name of the program. Each lifting day it gives you 3 submaximal percentages based off of 90% of your 1RM. You do each percentage for The prescribed amount of reps.
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    That makes more sense, thanks
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    Might I throw a suggestion in. An alternative to 531 or 5x5 would be Madcow 55. It is the same basic principle as 5x5 but adds in more exercises for BBing types. Just keep that in mind for down the road and anyone who hasn't seen it check it out. It's a fun program.
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    I've always kept pretty good track of my macros but in the last 8 months or so I've been using an app to log every food I eat so I know exactly what my macros and calories are and I can not believe the difference it makes. That is the best advice I can give is know exactly what your daily calorie intake is.
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    Macros?
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    See my first post
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    If your looking to put on size then you really need to make yourself a homemade protein shake. That would be the best thing to do. Also make sure you take some quality bcaas and a good decent pre workout. I use MGN whey isolate milk peanut butter and a. Few other things in my shake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Might I throw a suggestion in. An alternative to 531 or 5x5 would be Madcow 55. It is the same basic principle as 5x5 but adds in more exercises for BBing types. Just keep that in mind for down the road and anyone who hasn't seen it check it out. It's a fun program.
    This. Good suggestions here.

    These are some of the programs available right now (google the names to find out more):

    -5x5. Madcows
    -5/3/1 with an assistance templte that sticks out (if you look at the ebook, it makes it easier to understand)
    -P.H.A.T (Layne Nortons workout: combines strength and hypertrophy)
    -Westside for skinny bastards
    -P/RR/S (not really my thing but I've heard good things in terms of hypertrophy work)
    -Mountain dog (for advanced lifters)

    There are a few more around, but IMO PHAT and Mountain dog are the ones I like. Breezy got me hooked into MD, even though I just started it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Might I throw a suggestion in. An alternative to 531 or 5x5 would be Madcow 55. It is the same basic principle as 5x5 but adds in more exercises for BBing types. Just keep that in mind for down the road and anyone who hasn't seen it check it out. It's a fun program.
    Link? Sounds interesting
  

  
 

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