Genomyx's Novel Stim "AMP" vs. DMAA

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  6. So it was a good first impression. Right now 8.5/10. I feel exhausted right now but my contacts are bothering me too. Had an ok workout but my sister had to put her dog down and it was cut short. I'll update again tomorrow. Definitely noticed enhanced focus and energy at 1.5 scoops. Taste was good. I'll give a more detailed review tomorrow
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Afi140
    So it was a good first impression. Right now 8.5/10. I feel exhausted right now but my contacts are bothering me too. Had an ok workout but my sister had to put her dog down and it was cut short. I'll update again tomorrow. Definitely noticed enhanced focus and energy at 1.5 scoops. Taste was good. I'll give a more detailed review tomorrow
    Any updates to this brother? Id love to hear how it stacks up to other pres you have tried.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by flightposite View Post
    Any updates to this brother? Id love to hear how it stacks up to other pres you have tried.
    So far I like it. It's a clean focus and no dmaa sides. I have been at 1.5 scoops but am going to bum it to two scoops today. As compared to other pre's I really like the focus and energy. I don't respond well to yohimbine so this is the strongest pre for me there than ec. I'll update two scoops today after I hit chest/tri's. I would highly recommend at this point. Only downfall may be cost per serving at two scoop. Np insider sale should be up soon I hope!
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by jamesgatz83 View Post
    Looking for info from some of the more knowledgeable forum members.

    Anyone able to provide input on similarities and differences between 4-amino-2-methylpenatane (AMP) and DMAA?
    Have had it in the lab since April- characteristics, structure, etc all very similar to DMAA (even tested out very similar)- tried it with multiple blends; my assessment- we will not touch it with a 10-foot pole, lol.....but I will caveat this by stating that it is very effective, but the argument for natural occurrence just isn't strong enough in my eyes
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  10. On the dosing side- 200 mg of AMP will do the trick for the average person who is roughly 200 lbs. (89 kg), so the effective threshold would probably be 1.8-2.2 mg/kg, depending on stim tolerance, etc. (slightly lower if combined with other stims)

    As with DMAA- seems to work better with caffeine- I was doing a 1:1 ratio in some of the blends we tried; we have gone up to 400 mg and higher of the combination during a couple of the testing phases- 400 mg 1:1 will really get your attention, but the crash is pretty bad, unfortunately.
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  11. Original AMP was made by e-pharm and included was DMAA and it was brought to the market by PA....So I'm not sure what you are calling "novel"?.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Original AMP was made by e-pharm and included was DMAA and it was brought to the market by PA....So I'm not sure what you are calling "novel"?.
    They call the stim itself amp. Like pa called it geranamine Iirc. I do see the confusion.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    They call the stim itself amp. Like pa called it geranamine Iirc. I do see the confusion.
    Yes- the ingredient supplier is calling it Methyl AMP Citrate
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    They call the stim itself amp. Like pa called it geranamine Iirc. I do see the confusion.
    Yep, I got confused. I love getting old!

  15. Now that this old man figured out what was going here, I ordered a bottle of this stuff. I loved/love DMAA so this should be right up my alley!. Once I saw that it was gonna be similar I had to get a tub. Hopefully I don't need more than 1.5 scoops. It'll be expensive if I need 2 scoops per workout. That'd make it only 20 workouts per container. Guess I could do one scoop and see how I feel. If I need more energy I could stack it with another pre. Or only take it twice a week or something. Love/loved DMAA, problem is tolerance with that stuff builds extremely quickly.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    Have had it in the lab since April- characteristics, structure, etc all very similar to DMAA (even tested out very similar)- tried it with multiple blends; my assessment- we will not touch it with a 10-foot pole, lol.....but I will caveat this by stating that it is very effective, but the argument for natural occurrence just isn't strong enough in my eyes
    Agree with all of this. Got a tub for studying though

  17. Quote Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    Have had it in the lab since April- characteristics, structure, etc all very similar to DMAA (even tested out very similar)- tried it with multiple blends; my assessment- we will not touch it with a 10-foot pole, lol.....but I will caveat this by stating that it is very effective, but the argument for natural occurrence just isn't strong enough in my eyes
    Do you think this stuff would cause a bunch of false positives like DMAA did? I know its hard to know for sure but figured i would ask.
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  18. Not sure about false positive... but so far it has been hitting a little harder than ec. More energy and no dmaa sides. Very well done IMHO
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Do you think this stuff would cause a bunch of false positives like DMAA did? I know its hard to know for sure but figured i would ask.
    Did DMAA cause false positives?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    Not sure about false positive... but so far it has been hitting a little harder than ec. More energy and no dmaa sides. Very well done IMHO
    i would say it throws out less NE than dmaa but by far more dopamine....
    doing my own thang!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Did DMAA cause false positives?
    Yea it was known to cause false positives.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    Not sure about false positive... but so far it has been hitting a little harder than ec. More energy and no dmaa sides. Very well done IMHO
    Dang, I don't even have mine yet and it sounds like I'll be wanting more once my order comes in!.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Dang, I don't even have mine yet and it sounds like I'll be wanting more once my order comes in!.
    This is at 2 scoops but yeah it has treated me very well thus far. Interested to see how it treats you!
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Agree with all of this. Got a tub for studying though
    LOL- we capped up about 25,000 capsules in a combo blend with caffeine and a couple other goodies just for fun (wanted to see how it ran in automatic machinery); great for doing research or analytical method development
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Now that this old man figured out what was going here, I ordered a bottle of this stuff. I loved/love DMAA so this should be right up my alley!. Once I saw that it was gonna be similar I had to get a tub. Hopefully I don't need more than 1.5 scoops. It'll be expensive if I need 2 scoops per workout. That'd make it only 20 workouts per container. Guess I could do one scoop and see how I feel. If I need more energy I could stack it with another pre. Or only take it twice a week or something. Love/loved DMAA, problem is tolerance with that stuff builds extremely quickly.
    Same way with Methyl AMP as well, unfortunately- you will love it the first few times you use it, but you will have to keep escalating the dose.....
    Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
    Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals
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