[BPjohn123]

Thanks. That is what I'm going to do. I'm also going to add some Forskolin-95 to the stack.

Definitely a great addition, let us know how it goes!

[bolt10]

Thanks. That is what I'm going to do. I'm also going to add some Forskolin-95 to the stack.

Sounds beautiful to me.

Let us know how it goes or if you need any help along the way.

[mathius]

I might still need some help. I'm thinking about adding some DCP (not the new version). Is it overkill? What's the best way to take this stake. I have everything except Forskolin-95 which is coming by mail as we speak. I want to start this stack by November.

[bolt10]

I might still need some help. I'm thinking about adding some DCP (not the new version). Is it overkill? What's the best way to take this stake. I have everything except Forskolin-95 which is coming by mail as we speak. I want to start this stack by November.

Honestly DCP was one of my favorite non-stim fat burners and I often ran it with forskolin. With your current combo (Alphamine, Alphaburn, F-95) you should be good to go, but if you run them for 8 weeks I would entertain the idea of tossing in DCP in the final 4 weeks. No issues with combining it (actually should compliment this stuff well), I just like to minimize the amount of stuff I use at once if I can.

[mathius]

Thanks for the help. Sounds like a great game plan.

[Hyperfluxe]

Well, things have a funny way of working out. This morning I received two packages, the US version of Alphamine with yohimbine from smart powders and the one without it from CSS. I have no idea how it got through customs lol. I'm gonna take out the labels on both runs and pick a random one and then I'll report back if I notice any differences.

So happy to finally have Alphamine, I've been running the Texas Method with 2300cals and just Craze, with 40% reduced volume but it's so damn hard.

[bananaClip]

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89 616"/> Aus version FYI

lolol i love aussie and you guys have amazing girls but wtf is that?? taurine, caffeine and glucoloctone is whats in your alphamine? i guess at least it still suppresses appetite. right? should call it femimine

[Oscar]

Off topic just a little bit but damn Aussies got some strict laws when it comes to supplements any reasoning behind this or u guys just live in a nanny state with uneducated(in regards to nutrition & health) leaders seriously worst thing I've ever heard happening from yohimbine is making some people anxious and uncomfortable for a few hours

[bdcc]

lolol i love aussie and you guys have amazing girls but wtf is that?? taurine, caffeine and glucoloctone is whats in your alphamine? i guess at least it still suppresses appetite. right? should call it femimine

It has a different label layout. You have missed the ingredients underneath.

[bananaClip]

It has a different label layout. You have missed the ingredients underneath.

i did see it, i just wanted to be a dick ;p
love AUS i need to go back for vacation

[CATdiesel76]

Anyone in the US carry uk versions of enhanced and alphamine? I'm guessing PES for the higher retail price but anyone else? I absolutely hate yohimbe and all it's forms. I would enjoy PES stuff much more without it

[Daxter]

Off topic just a little bit but damn Aussies got some strict laws when it comes to supplements any reasoning behind this or u guys just live in a nanny state with uneducated(in regards to nutrition & health) leaders seriously worst thing I've ever heard happening from yohimbine is making some people anxious and uncomfortable for a few hours

prettymuch as you said, with a bunch of conservative morons running the supplement regulation. Over here it's the inverse of the how the US FDA runs things (or at least my imperssion of US FDA), a supp is illegal unless they place it on the therapeutic goods register, which requires time and money. On top of that, our customs are super efficient due to the fact that most drugs have to come from outside the country due to the heavy regulation, which consequentially affects importing grey area supps

[bdcc]

Anyone in the US carry uk versions of enhanced and alphamine? I'm guessing PES for the higher retail price but anyone else? I absolutely hate yohimbe and all it's forms. I would enjoy PES stuff much more without it

http://pescience.com/alphamine-int.html

$34.99.

[CATdiesel76]

http://pescience.com/alphamine-int.html

$34.99.

Damn not bad at all. Original didn't agree with me with yohimbe but now I can hop back on the bandwagon.

Although im kind of hesitant to start. I have seen waaaayyy too many alphamine junkies always wanting a fix. Its crack I tell ya

[bdcc]

Come and join us on the dark side.

It tastes delicious over here.

[DarthGainer]

I use the int version because I'm in the uk. This might sound stupid but if I use it at 1-2 scoops and I'm at work or sitting around, basically anything non physical I feel nothing but If I use it as a pre about 10 mins into the workout I can feel it, not full energy but more focus? Its almost like like lifting activates it?

Anyone know a reason for this or have a similar experience?

[mr.cooper69]

I use the int version because I'm in the uk. This might sound stupid but if I use it at 1-2 scoops and I'm at work or sitting around, basically anything non physical I feel nothing but If I use it as a pre about 10 mins into the workout I can feel it, not full energy but more focus? Its almost like like lifting activates it?

Anyone know a reason for this or have a similar experience?

The reason is that alpha 2 antagonists are potentiated by exercise.

[Cheranine]

I picked up the aus / nz formula today thinking it was just yohimbine missing, but the olive leaf and choline bitatrate are also missing replaced by a couple of others i cant remember. Any reason? Loved my first serve though.

[BLaQz]

I picked up the aus / nz formula today thinking it was just yohimbine missing, but the olive leaf and choline bitatrate are also missing replaced by a couple of others i cant remember. Any reason? Loved my first serve though.

It shouldn't even be called Alphamine... It's not even a thermo... It's great for a caffeine boost, & that's all... It's double the price, but half the servings... If you can't get the US version, get some other fat burner in Aus...

[Cheranine]

Well one of the earlier posts stated the only difference was the SA2 the had been removed so took a punt on it. Ive looked up the glucuronoblahblah and bacopa ingredients which do sound decent, but still :/ anyways i got a good smooth stimulant effect and felt pretty good so its not all bad i guess.

[BLaQz]

Well one of the earlier posts stated the only difference was the SA2 the had been removed so took a punt on it. Ive looked up the glucuronoblahblah and bacopa ingredients which do sound decent, but still :/ anyways i got a good smooth stimulant effect and felt pretty good so its not all bad i guess.

The International version is the one you read about... The Aus version is very different... It's by no means the fault of PES... It's the ridiculous laws in Aus...

[Cheranine]

And NZ so it would seem. Ah so there is an international AND an AU / NZ formula? Mind asplode.

[bdcc]

It isn't very complicated. Allow me to explain.

Australia have very different laws.

- International version (EU/UK) contains no yohimbe (prohibited my the MHRA) and heightened doses of other ingredients to compensate. Other than that it is exactly the same as the US version.
- Australian version has had to have a few changes past this.

[Cheranine]

no it's not complicated, I just didn't do the research required to realize that even though I was willing to compromise on one ingredient missing, turns out there were a few more.

I'll run it anyway because as mentioned Ive enjoyed the servings I've had so far and PES have a great rep. Also, I am happy with the added ingredients after reading up on them.

[dbenj7]

US Alphamine was great. I was lucky enough to get it through once, haven't tried again. Don't think I would bother with Aus version. I really wanted to try Enhanced but it got seized. *******s. Don't understand why yohimbe is banned, ridiclulous law. Has anyone had any issues getting anabeta elite through? I ordered some the other day and am waiting delivery.

[AndroRage]

It isn't very complicated. Allow me to explain. Australia have very different laws. - International version (EU/UK) contains no yohimbe (prohibited my the MHRA) and heightened doses of other ingredients to compensate. Other than that it is exactly the same as the US version. - Australian version has had to have a few changes past this.

Which version do you use? I'm aware of your location but interested on the version you use/used.

[BPjohn123]

Which version do you use? I'm aware of your location but interested on the version you use/used.

I use the international version. Always have had success with it.

[MaXopA]

so is there really no way of getting the US version WITHIN Europe?

I'm asking because German customs are f*****g awful! They've blocked anything I ordered from the States so far, that's why I won't be doing that again.

[Iain1668]

There was no need to have the Aus one watered down so much.

I expect nothing less from flush though.

[MaXopA]

There was no need to have the Aus one watered down so much.

I expect nothing less from flush though.

did you notice anything towards a fat-burning effect with the international version? I'm asking because I actually need no stimulants, as 1000mg caffeine a day should already do the trick, and I'm just searching for enhanced fat-burning