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    check out Powermax, uses agmatine, citrulline and carnitine and gives pretty intense pumps, really clean energy too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post

    Im stim tolerant. 1 scoop kills it lol! Nitrates plus pump plus caffeine. The scoop is correct and properly dosed. The ag sulfate is 500 mg of that lol.
    I will try one scoop wen I get it and see how that goes

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    Quote Originally Posted by flightposite View Post
    Lots of good suggestions. My personal favorites are.

    Litup *
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    Supersize*
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    Ultra reps*

    honorable mention. Condense, Origin, SuperPump, ultima and Flashover.
    I have narrowed down to some I will try, unsure on order.

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    High volume (when available in UK)

    Maybe condense and Gameday
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    I'm taking this stuff from my local nutrition store called stim factor good dose of caffiene, dmaa, agmatine, betaine, beta alanine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    ANS Ritual seems to have a good doses? Anyone testify to its effectiveness
    I use it quite a bite and love it. Stacked with Dilate. Great focus, energy and pumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    ANS Ritual seems to have a good doses? Anyone testify to its effectiveness
    Some of the doses fall a little short of what I'd like to see but I picked the combo pkg with dilate and I actually like it. It was really cheap at the time. Other than that I stick to focus xt agmatine and citrulline Malate as my go to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    Origin is going!? I was considering it, as it has a pretty decent profile and I like how each ingredient is explained regarding its inclusion.
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    The two I am using right now are LEVEL II which has a high stim level and volatile which has less stims but better pump
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheftepesh1 View Post
    The two I am using right now are LEVEL II which has a high stim level and volatile which has less stims but better pump
    Goodbye appetite with that Level II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheftepesh1 View Post
    The two I am using right now are LEVEL II which has a high stim level and volatile which has less stims but better pump
    Great price on Volatile at NP right now! http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/f...-servings.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Goodbye appetite with that Level II.
    that's the truth!
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    Funny I didn't have an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheftepesh1 View Post
    Funny I didn't have an issue.
    I'm not even cutting. Ha ha ha. You guys hooked me up with a tub to give it a go and yeah, just no appetite for most of the day. Lulz. I've been using it like coffee for cardio days.

    Needless to say, I will be looking forward to buying a tub out of my own pocket around end of winter/early spring when I start cutting for the summer. Lulz. It's potent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    I'm not even cutting. Ha ha ha. You guys hooked me up with a tub to give it a go and yeah, just no appetite for most of the day. Lulz. I've been using it like coffee for cardio days.
    it absolutely demolishes my appetite too which is what I like about it. I'm cutting right now, not sure how'd I'd be doing without it tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    it absolutely demolishes my appetite too which is what I like about it. I'm cutting right now, not sure how'd I'd be doing without it tbh
    I would go most of the day without eating and then realize it and go like "Oh no! Must cram my face for a few hours to hit 3300-3500 cals!" Not a lot of calories to consume but when you've skipped half the day or so without eating... lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheftepesh1 View Post
    The two I am using right now are LEVEL II which has a high stim level and volatile which has less stims but better pump
    As chef mentioned....depends what you are really looking to accomplish....

    If you want a PWO with a thermo effect then Level II is great, high stim.....want something less stim (similar to cup of coffee) without the thermo then Volatile is great.
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