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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    I've always wondered what yohimbine's effects on pumps was. Anybody care to explain? Does it have bloodflow promoting qualities?
    Yohimbine will increase vascularity but it's chiefly a vasoconstrictor

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    Sure as this is the first I've seen of this listed con:

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    L-Arginine and L-Citrulline (for some neurological effects; cardiovascular interactions not well elucidated)
    Yohimbine and Rauwolscine (Agmatine activates the α2A receptor that these inhibit)
    D-Aspartic Acid due to reducing signalling via the NMDA receptors
    Alcohol coingestion (may increase ulceration from alcohol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    Agmatine binds but posses no action there actually the intra workout agmatine leucine and yohimbine with 15-30g carbs will produce mind boggling pumps add in a few othe key ingredients and it's anabolism all day
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    Good read, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    Ima try this than. Sounds great and weird no one ever mentioned it.
    Lemme know what you think
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    Does this mean its bad to stack Alphamine and high volume preworkout on a cut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raekwonse View Post
    Does this mean its bad to stack Alphamine and high volume preworkout on a cut?
    I think your alright my friend.
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    Great information in this thread again, just started using 500mg twice a day and logging as well. Appreciate all the input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cedman1 View Post
    Great information in this thread again, just started using 500mg twice a day and logging as well. Appreciate all the input.
    What brand are.you.using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cedman1 View Post
    Great information in this thread again, just started using 500mg twice a day and logging as well. Appreciate all the input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Try SNS agmatine if you havent already
    i prefer BioCor agmatine
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    i prefer SNS bulk agmatine
    Thanks R1....that is balla of you to say
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    bulk powder from musclefeast, apparently its the agmapure brand
    i just ordered some NP agmapure... will taste and compare the 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    What brand are.you.using?
    BioCor as it was on sale and I bought before I even knew what it did, lol. Price was too low to pass up
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    Received my SNS 100 g tub of agmatine over the weekend. So much agmatine, lulz. Dumped a scoop straight into my mouth only to remember why I don't do such things with agmatine. Smh.
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    .......so studies show agmatine as something that either stimulates or mimics insulin and people are still taking it before bed?*may be mistaken but will read more when I get hone* Read up on insulin and fatburning and growth hormone. I must do more research but I believe agmatine would be more beneficial during the day than before bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    Thanks R1....that is balla of you to say
    i see what you did there
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    .......so studies show agmatine as something that either stimulates or mimics insulin and people are still taking it before bed?*may be mistaken but will read more when I get hone* Read up on insulin and fatburning and growth hormone. I must do more research but I believe agmatine would be more beneficial during the day than before bed.
    Agmatine seems to stimulate insulin release only in the presence of carbs. Physiological levels of GH won't really burn fat anyway...although agmatine is a GHRH stimulant
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Received my SNS 100 g tub of agmatine over the weekend. So much agmatine, lulz. Dumped a scoop straight into my mouth only to remember why I don't do such things with agmatine. Smh.
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    I am currently taking 1g with my pre-workout and feeling some good pumps. A little more enhanced than wothout it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    What brand are.you.using?
    Analyzed Supplements Agmatine caps. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    i prefer BioCor agmatine
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Received my SNS 100 g tub of agmatine over the weekend. So much agmatine, lulz. Dumped a scoop straight into my mouth only to remember why I don't do such things with agmatine. Smh.
    When mine comes into the country, customs always opens it and samples it lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by cedman1 View Post
    Sure as this is the first I've seen of this listed con:

    *taken from Link*
    Does Not Go Well With

    L-Arginine and L-Citrulline (for some neurological effects; cardiovascular interactions not well elucidated)
    Yohimbine and Rauwolscine (Agmatine activates the α2A receptor that these inhibit)
    D-Aspartic Acid due to reducing signalling via the NMDA receptors
    Alcohol coingestion (may increase ulceration from alcohol)
    is this list currently valid? should i replace my current pwo arginine with preworkout agmatine?

    does the l citriline contradiction also then apply to cit. malate? i was wanting to test out the combo for pump/sex benefits

    would daa help balance out vs blunt effects?

    how extreme are the alcohol interactions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by googlealchemi View Post
    is this list currently valid? should i replace my current pwo arginine with preworkout agmatine? does the l citriline contradiction also then apply to cit. malate? i was wanting to test out the combo for pump/sex benefits would daa help balance out vs blunt effects? how extreme are the alcohol interactions?
    Drop arginine and replace with Agmatine. 10 grams of Citrulline Malate is equivalent to 5 grams of L-Citrulline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    When mine comes into the country, customs always opens it and samples it lol
    Massively vascular mailmen, they know what's up. Lulz.
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    "Yohimbine and Rauwolscine (Agmatine activates the α2A receptor that these inhibit)" per the other post

    I am taking hyper t2 which has some alpha yo in it, so is the effect of the agmatine enough to cancel out the effect of the alpha yo? On a similar note, if ag activates the a2a receptor does that mean it would be counter productive in some ways to fat loss?
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    I just added agmatine back into my little stack and forgot how much I love it. It is far and away one of the strongest anxiolytic supplements out there. Aniracetam is always going to have a special place for me, but the benefits that I see from agmatine make it one of the miracle supplements, imo. I get very vascular, a calm sense of well being, and just generally feel like I am firing on all cylinders. I dropped it in the past because I underestimated what it does and the price for 1g-1.5g can get up there, but I realized how worth it it is.

    I definitely see a BB benefit, but for me it is more nootropic.
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    You can ignore the examine.com contraindications
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    Why is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You can ignore the examine.com contraindications
    Quote Originally Posted by googlealchemi View Post
    "Yohimbine and Rauwolscine (Agmatine activates the α2A receptor that these inhibit)" per the other post
    Coop,
    You saying this isn't correct?
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    To update, I took 500mg before bed last night and went to sleep. I had really good, deep sleep for about 5 hours and then woke up wide awake at around 4:30. I never really went back to sleep, but I feel like I slept for 7-8. Don't know if this is coincidence or how/if agmatine played a role in this.
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    I get that reaction from any GH boosting supp..ie sleep hard for 4-5 hours then wide awake.

    I noticed the analgesic aspect of agmatine the other day. I tore up shoulders/tri's and was hurting pretty good. After 1g of agmatine and some sauna time, the pain eased away and my shoulders felt almost tingly. Unexpected, weird, but I'll take it.
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    Never thought I would love a supplement quite this much. This morning 1g before the gym and I just felt incredible. Not so much in actual strength, but just powerful and confident. Every lift was with purpose and I was just really calm. Plus, it is hard to not feel confident when it leaves you pumped up throughout the day. Vain, but whatever.

    Oh, one thing I did wonder is if it is known to lower blood pressure. I read some thinking it might, but didn't know if it was studied. I felt a little light headed after some big lifts and that was strange. Putting that together with the calm sense you get, I was thinking it could be related. Dunno?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Why is that?
    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Coop,
    You saying this isn't correct?
    I'm saying it's not physiologically relevant. Agmatine distributes chiefly to non-adipose (mostly CNS) with a respectable half-life. If you want further clarification, I suggest looking up my past posts with SNS.
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    Man, I freaking am loving agmatine, but the gas is unreal. LOL. I wish it didn't mess with my stomach this much, but I am thinking it is worth it.
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    Ps. Genomyx watermelon flavored agmatine sulfate + USP watermelon BCAA+ is amazing. Tried it as a pre (ran out of high volume) as I am going stim free a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    Ps. Genomyx watermelon flavored agmatine sulfate + USP watermelon BCAA+ is amazing. Tried it as a pre (ran out of high volume) as I am going stim free a while.
    That's good because bulk agmatine sulfate tastes like death to me. LoL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Never thought I would love a supplement quite this much. This morning 1g before the gym and I just felt incredible. Not so much in actual strength, but just powerful and confident. Every lift was with purpose and I was just really calm. Plus, it is hard to not feel confident when it leaves you pumped up throughout the day. Vain, but whatever.

    Oh, one thing I did wonder is if it is known to lower blood pressure. I read some thinking it might, but didn't know if it was studied. I felt a little light headed after some big lifts and that was strange. Putting that together with the calm sense you get, I was thinking it could be related. Dunno?
    It's one of the only supplements outside of study aids that I take consistently. Agmatine is nothing short of amazing The 100g tub is where it's at

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    That's good because bulk agmatine sulfate tastes like death to me. LoL.
    It's not that bad ya ninny
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    Ps. Genomyx watermelon flavored agmatine sulfate + USP watermelon BCAA+ is amazing. Tried it as a pre (ran out of high volume) as I am going stim free a while.
    Stim free does seem to be a trend nowadays. Im going to start my cutt stim free. Glad to hear those flavors are good haha!

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post

    It's one of the only supplements outside of study aids that I take consistently. Agmatine is nothing short of amazing The 100g tub is where it's at

    It's not that bad ya ninny
    Also note those mios and crystal lite mixes make everything bearable. Even SERMS and pure powder lclt. Lclt seems to taste the worst for me. Serms taste okay with sour flavored or juice drinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Stim free does seem to be a trend nowadays. Im going to start my cutt stim free. Glad to hear those flavors are good haha!



    Also note those mios and crystal lite mixes make everything bearable. Even SERMS and pure powder lclt. Lclt seems to taste the worst for me. Serms taste okay with sour flavored or juice drinks.
    I still to this day have yet to try any of those water flavoring things lol
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