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    Seeking advice: non-PH test boost/strength supp?


    Hey guys once again I seek your great advice. I just finished 6 weeks of Anabeta Elite, actually I cut it short (was gonna do 8 weeks) but for whatever reason this time around I was a non-responder. Anyway moving forward, I'm into a strength training phase and I need a supp that will not test positive on a drug test (I'm subject to random testing at my agency). I'd like to keep it simple, one or two supp stack. Some background- male/46, 212lbs Training: 5-6 days/wk Crossfit/weightlifting Diet: Paleo

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    how bout some X gels , bulbine / daa and magnesium creatine chelate?
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    ArA (X-Gels or X-Factor). You could throw in Bioforge also if you wanted.
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    What about Intimidate SRT, Tropinol XP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doorkicker View Post
    Hey guys once again I seek your great advice. I just finished 6 weeks of Anabeta Elite, actually I cut it short (was gonna do 8 weeks) but for whatever reason this time around I was a non-responder. Anyway moving forward, I'm into a strength training phase and I need a supp that will not test positive on a drug test (I'm subject to random testing at my agency). I'd like to keep it simple, one or two supp stack. Some background- male/46, 212lbs Training: 5-6 days/wk Crossfit/weightlifting Diet: Paleo

    This product.. Strength is the main thing people notice while using it. It's now known as the "Pro-hormone alternative" because people have actually described their results as similar to a mild PH/DS cycle. None of the sides of PH/DS use and no need for PCT either. Just solid strength gains. Can't find one negative review on the stuff. You will definitely be kicking down some doors on this stuff!.
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    cant argue with much in this thread...
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    ARA, DAA and magnesium creatine chelate is a great suggestion.
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    Ara. Honestly if this gets cheap its going to be in everyones toolbox. Then it'll be like creatine with buffered Ara and "microdose" Ara scams hahaha.

    I also really enjoy Creatine with orotic acid, and betaine.
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    For someone else, I'd say X-gels + Anabeta Elite. You will have a tough time topping that combo for natty anabolics/strength. In your case, I would still finish off your ABE. Regardless of whether you feel it working, the background ingredients will still aid body composition
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    For someone else, I'd say X-gels + Anabeta Elite. You will have a tough time topping that combo for natty anabolics/strength. In your case, I would still finish off your ABE. Regardless of whether you feel it working, the background ingredients will still aid body composition
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    Thanks for all the responses and PM's...X-gels and DAA it is! I'm already on creatine (mono) would switching to magnesium creatine chelate (green magnitude) be worthwhile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doorkicker View Post
    Thanks for all the responses and PM's...X-gels and DAA it is! I'm already on creatine (mono) would switching to magnesium creatine chelate (green magnitude) be worthwhile?
    Mono is all you ever need and differences wont be noticed when using another form. that being said some mixes have other extras in them, if you are considering a switch to MCC I would recommend Genomyx Creignite. Tastes phenomenal, not under-dosed, includes orotic acid
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    Anabeta + Titanium + High Volume is a great combo for a test boost & strength gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    For someone else, I'd say X-gels + Anabeta Elite. You will have a tough time topping that combo for natty anabolics/strength. In your case, I would still finish off your ABE. Regardless of whether you feel it working, the background ingredients will still aid body composition
    Yeah for a lot of people I'd say Xgels and ABE would be one of the best options out there. So maybe in OP's case I'd say for sure X-Gels, Titanium and Bioforge ProMax if you can find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcowan13 View Post
    I've Been Taking X-Gels for the past 4 weeks now and i am at the tail end of contest prep and can really say i like them and have noticed that i have been able to actually gain strength in some lifts i had plateaued in.
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    about to get X-gels aswell.. stacking it with Erase and Forskolin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piledahlaren View Post
    about to get X-gels aswell.. stacking it with Erase and Forskolin
    All great choices here actually. I'm happy you are stacking these together. You should get some great results from these. I'm sure you will enjoy the effects. Make sure you are taking creative and bcaas along with protein. Who do you go to for your protein?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piledahlaren View Post
    about to get X-gels aswell.. stacking it with Erase and Forskolin
    Sick stack for sure. Increases in strength and leaning out = win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1 View Post
    All great choices here actually. I'm happy you are stacking these together. You should get some great results from these. I'm sure you will enjoy the effects. Make sure you are taking creative and bcaas along with protein. Who do you go to for your protein?
    Thanks! Yeah hope to get some great results : ) thinking of taking Ara only on workout days as some seems to do? 1g pwo with glycerol.. and only l-carnitine form I have it GPLC .. its ok ? I live in Sweden gets all my protein from bulkpowders in uk. Im gonna use my creatine hcl in this stack aswell but not sure with dose.. some says it reqiure same amount as monohydrate

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    Sick stack for sure. Increases in strength and leaning out = win.
    Yeahhhh buddy! any tip for me when using Ara? thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piledahlaren View Post
    Thanks! Yeah hope to get some great results : ) thinking of taking Ara only on workout days as some seems to do? 1g pwo with glycerol.. and only l-carnitine form I have it GPLC .. its ok ? I live in Sweden gets all my protein from bulkpowders in uk. Im gonna use my creatine hcl in this stack aswell but not sure with dose.. some says it reqiure same amount as monohydrate



    Yeahhhh buddy! any tip for me when using Ara? thanks
    1g workout days only; don't use fish oils or cissus within 4hrs of taking ArA (Cissus shouldn't be dose post workout anyway). GPLC should be fine; if you can add GMS then that would complement the stack nicely. Baby Aspirin is a good alternative.

    Apart from that, the stack looks good to go. No doubt you will enjoy your run
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    1g workout days only; don't use fish oils or cissus within 4hrs of taking ArA (Cissus shouldn't be dose post workout anyway). GPLC should be fine; if you can add GMS then that would complement the stack nicely. Baby Aspirin is a good alternative.

    Apart from that, the stack looks good to go. No doubt you will enjoy your run
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymratluke View Post
    Whoa...no fish oil or cissus with in 4 hrs of ARA?!
    It's a pro-inflammatory and anti-inflammatory products shouldn't be taken around ArA for best results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    It's a pro-inflammatory and anti-inflammatory products shouldn't be taken around ArA for best results.
    Man that's gonna be hard to juggle...Iu take ARA twice a day correct? I typically take my cissus in the morning on an empty stomach and then right before bed, fishoil I take with breakfast and after dinner
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymratluke View Post
    Man that's gonna be hard to juggle...Iu take ARA twice a day correct? I typically take my cissus in the morning on an empty stomach and then right before bed, fishoil I take with breakfast and after dinner
    If you workout in the evening, dose cissus and fish oil in the AM and vice versa if you workout in the AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymratluke View Post
    Man that's gonna be hard to juggle...Iu take ARA twice a day correct? I typically take my cissus in the morning on an empty stomach and then right before bed, fishoil I take with breakfast and after dinner
    What time do you workout? Most people take the full dose 30 - 60 minutes pre-workout. I workout at 6:30pm so I usually take my cissus at 7:30am and it isn't a problem to take 1 gram of X-Factor at 5:45pm and workout at 6:30pm.

    I think the most popular dosing of Ara is taking it only on workout days 30 - 60 minutes pre-workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    If you workout in the evening, dose cissus and fish oil in the AM and vice versa if you workout in the AM.

    ArA once per day: all your doses 45-60 minutes pre-workout.
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    Ara/Prime would be a nice combo as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drenaline31 View Post
    Ara. Honestly if this gets cheap its going to be in everyones toolbox. Then it'll be like creatine with buffered Ara and "microdose" Ara scams hahaha.

    I also really enjoy Creatine with orotic acid, and betaine.
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    Ok guys here's what I got, please advise on what and when to take.

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    I also have these Pre-workout supps on hand:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doorkicker View Post
    Ok guys here's what I got, please advise on what and when to take.

    X-Gels
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    I also have these Pre-workout supps on hand:
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    I would take your arachidonic acid and creatine with your preWO

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    Just wanted to follow up on this...On workout days I've been using X-gels (4 caps) and Hemavol (2 scoops) 45min pre-workout. I'm also taking DAA every night before bed. So far so good...really f#ckin' good. PR'd on the Deadlift yesterday 425 x 8! I'm feeling pumped and tight long after a workout too. Pretty wild stuff. The DOMS are for real! I should also mention that I've had a few killer headaches after taking X-gels. If anyone has any insight as to what that's all about please let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doorkicker View Post
    Just wanted to follow up on this...On workout days I've been using X-gels (4 caps) and Hemavol (2 scoops) 45min pre-workout. I'm also taking DAA every night before bed. So far so good...really f#ckin' good. PR'd on the Deadlift yesterday 425 x 8! I'm feeling pumped and tight long after a workout too. Pretty wild stuff. The DOMS are for real! I should also mention that I've had a few killer headaches after taking X-gels. If anyone has any insight as to what that's all about please let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doorkicker View Post
    Just wanted to follow up on this...On workout days I've been using X-gels (4 caps) and Hemavol (2 scoops) 45min pre-workout. I'm also taking DAA every night before bed. So far so good...really f#ckin' good. PR'd on the Deadlift yesterday 425 x 8! I'm feeling pumped and tight long after a workout too. Pretty wild stuff. The DOMS are for real! I should also mention that I've had a few killer headaches after taking X-gels. If anyone has any insight as to what that's all about please let me know.
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