Seeking advice: non-PH test boost/strength supp?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by gymratluke View Post
    Man that's gonna be hard to juggle...Iu take ARA twice a day correct? I typically take my cissus in the morning on an empty stomach and then right before bed, fishoil I take with breakfast and after dinner
    If you workout in the evening, dose cissus and fish oil in the AM and vice versa if you workout in the AM.

    ArA once per day: all your doses 45-60 minutes pre-workout.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by gymratluke View Post
    Man that's gonna be hard to juggle...Iu take ARA twice a day correct? I typically take my cissus in the morning on an empty stomach and then right before bed, fishoil I take with breakfast and after dinner
    What time do you workout? Most people take the full dose 30 - 60 minutes pre-workout. I workout at 6:30pm so I usually take my cissus at 7:30am and it isn't a problem to take 1 gram of X-Factor at 5:45pm and workout at 6:30pm.

    I think the most popular dosing of Ara is taking it only on workout days 30 - 60 minutes pre-workout.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    If you workout in the evening, dose cissus and fish oil in the AM and vice versa if you workout in the AM.

    ArA once per day: all your doses 45-60 minutes pre-workout.
    Oh ok perfect!
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  4. Ara/Prime would be a nice combo as well
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Drenaline31 View Post
    Ara. Honestly if this gets cheap its going to be in everyones toolbox. Then it'll be like creatine with buffered Ara and "microdose" Ara scams hahaha.

    I also really enjoy Creatine with orotic acid, and betaine.
    Regarding your last sentence, which product are you using which has all 3?

  6. Ok guys here's what I got, please advise on what and when to take.

    X-Gels
    DAA 3K
    Beast Creature

    I also have these Pre-workout supps on hand:
    Hemavol
    Alphamine
    MP Assault

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Doorkicker View Post
    Ok guys here's what I got, please advise on what and when to take.

    X-Gels
    DAA 3K
    Beast Creature

    I also have these Pre-workout supps on hand:
    Hemavol
    Alphamine
    MP Assault
    I would take your arachidonic acid and creatine with your preWO

    Regarding DAA, the time of day you dose shouldnt make an impact, you can dose it at any time convenient for your schedule.
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  8. Just wanted to follow up on this...On workout days I've been using X-gels (4 caps) and Hemavol (2 scoops) 45min pre-workout. I'm also taking DAA every night before bed. So far so good...really f#ckin' good. PR'd on the Deadlift yesterday 425 x 8! I'm feeling pumped and tight long after a workout too. Pretty wild stuff. The DOMS are for real! I should also mention that I've had a few killer headaches after taking X-gels. If anyone has any insight as to what that's all about please let me know.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Doorkicker View Post
    Just wanted to follow up on this...On workout days I've been using X-gels (4 caps) and Hemavol (2 scoops) 45min pre-workout. I'm also taking DAA every night before bed. So far so good...really f#ckin' good. PR'd on the Deadlift yesterday 425 x 8! I'm feeling pumped and tight long after a workout too. Pretty wild stuff. The DOMS are for real! I should also mention that I've had a few killer headaches after taking X-gels. If anyone has any insight as to what that's all about please let me know.
    Glad the stack is going good. ArA can cause headaches for some individuals.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Doorkicker View Post
    Just wanted to follow up on this...On workout days I've been using X-gels (4 caps) and Hemavol (2 scoops) 45min pre-workout. I'm also taking DAA every night before bed. So far so good...really f#ckin' good. PR'd on the Deadlift yesterday 425 x 8! I'm feeling pumped and tight long after a workout too. Pretty wild stuff. The DOMS are for real! I should also mention that I've had a few killer headaches after taking X-gels. If anyone has any insight as to what that's all about please let me know.
    Look into X-Factor Advanced. Arachidonic Acid formulated with boswellia and electrolytes to lessen the chance of side effects such as joint pain or headache.
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  11. I used to get headaches all the time with original X-Factor, it's a common side effect. X-Factor Advanced addresses that side effect.
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  12. hi everyone, new to this forum. Just a quick question, is there any downside to stacking ARA with P6 extreme? I normally would not do this but I just have a surplus of P6 right now

  13. Quote Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
    hi everyone, new to this forum. Just a quick question, is there any downside to stacking ARA with P6 extreme? I normally would not do this but I just have a surplus of P6 right now
    No downsides, the two stack well!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    No downsides, the two stack well!
    Sounds good ill definitely start the stack on the next cycle. I always respond well to ara in the past. Excited how this next phase goes

  15. Hmm.. if you get a cold during a ArA cycle do you stop or continue? would suck to be like 20 days in and get a cold and have to stop : \

  16. Intimidate Is my fav!

  17. I may be misunderstanding the question, but I think of Proviron (oral). 12-hour half life, few if any sides, lots of strength gains.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Piledahlaren View Post
    Hmm.. if you get a cold during a ArA cycle do you stop or continue? would suck to be like 20 days in and get a cold and have to stop : \
    You would only have to quit if you took it everyday and were taking a lot of NSAIDs or having a lot of inflammation problems. I only take it preworkout and don't lift if I have a cold so missing a couple of days won't hurt you.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Piledahlaren View Post
    Hmm.. if you get a cold during a ArA cycle do you stop or continue? would suck to be like 20 days in and get a cold and have to stop : \
    No need to stop ArA supplementation if you get a simple cold.
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  20. So I wanted to follow up as well...Im 3 weeks into my Xfactor Advanced/Drive Stack and Im amazed TBQH! I have jumped so much on all my lifts its simply mind blowing...the fact of the matter is, I hadnt really lifted real hard prior to starting the stack, cause I have been working so damn much and training was more important then lifting, but now I've passed any "muscle memory" type gains, Im the strongest I have been in years, and Im definitely the strongest I have ever been lb 4 lb! Now here is the kicker...I have only been taking 2 gells, not 4!! IDK why I thought that was what I was to do...but I thought someone said that on here someone, but I may be wrong. So should I up this to 4 preworkout?! Am I gonna explode with strength and power if I do this?! Cause Im pretty stoked on how I have been feeling lately, I can only imagine doubling the dose! lol
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by gymratluke View Post
    So I wanted to follow up as well...Im 3 weeks into my Xfactor Advanced/Drive Stack and Im amazed TBQH! I have jumped so much on all my lifts its simply mind blowing...the fact of the matter is, I hadnt really lifted real hard prior to starting the stack, cause I have been working so damn much and training was more important then lifting, but now I've passed any "muscle memory" type gains, Im the strongest I have been in years, and Im definitely the strongest I have ever been lb 4 lb! Now here is the kicker...I have only been taking 2 gells, not 4!! IDK why I thought that was what I was to do...but I thought someone said that on here someone, but I may be wrong. So should I up this to 4 preworkout?! Am I gonna explode with strength and power if I do this?! Cause Im pretty stoked on how I have been feeling lately, I can only imagine doubling the dose! lol
    Used animal test before and I did fine with their smaller dose. But since it's safe of course you want to go with the higher recommended dosage and I knw that's what u wanna hear

  22. Quote Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
    Used animal test before and I did fine with their smaller dose. But since it's safe of course you want to go with the higher recommended dosage and I knw that's what u wanna hear
    Animal Test actually uses a very high dose (about 1450mg).

  23. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Animal Test actually uses a very high dose (about 1450mg).
    Its not a bad product at all but I wont spend $60 on it

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  24. I didn't think this feedback warranted a new thread so I thought I'd leave my thoughts in this thread - I'm about 10 workouts into my first ArA run and I'm pretty excited about this stuff. I weighed in the "least effective supplements" thread that I need to heavily dose just about everything I take to get any kind of effect. I'm following Neuron's well known ArA dosing protocol of pre-workout only with GMS and L-Carnitine, however, I'm taking just 1 gram of ArA right now.

    The very first day I took ArA I did get a bit of a dull headache but that hasn't happened since the first day of dosing. I'd been expecting the dreaded increase in DOMS discomfort but honestly it's been a non-issue. So, what have I noticed? Immediate strength gains and a substantial increase in appetite. Again, I'm only 10 workouts into the first run at 1 gram a day, but I'm stoked about the results so far!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Animal Test actually uses a very high dose (about 1450mg).
    What I meant about low dosage is when compared to the X-Factor. Animal test has two little ArA pills inside those packs which is like you said approximately 1450mg. X-factor can be taken up to 4 pills which is close to 3.3 grams. So animal test is a lower in ArA dosage compared to what gymratluke was taking.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by tony soprano View Post
    I didn't think this feedback warranted a new thread so I thought I'd leave my thoughts in this thread - I'm about 10 workouts into my first ArA run and I'm pretty excited about this stuff. I weighed in the "least effective supplements" thread that I need to heavily dose just about everything I take to get any kind of effect. I'm following Neuron's well known ArA dosing protocol of pre-workout only with GMS and L-Carnitine, however, I'm taking just 1 gram of ArA right now.

    The very first day I took ArA I did get a bit of a dull headache but that hasn't happened since the first day of dosing. I'd been expecting the dreaded increase in DOMS discomfort but honestly it's been a non-issue. So, what have I noticed? Immediate strength gains and a substantial increase in appetite. Again, I'm only 10 workouts into the first run at 1 gram a day, but I'm stoked about the results so far!
    Second the immediate strength gains

  27. Im on my third day with ArA, little more pump and strength is up already : ) using it with 50mg Erase and 100-150mg forskolin ed... about 1 week left of forskolin and 2-3 with Erase.. after that ArA will work on its own

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Piledahlaren View Post
    Im on my third day with ArA, little more pump and strength is up already : ) using it with 50mg Erase and 100-150mg forskolin ed... about 1 week left of forskolin and 2-3 with Erase.. after that ArA will work on its own
    Always glad to hear from users who see results right away with ArA, just know that the results will only get much, much better in the coming weeks!
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post

    Always glad to hear from users who see results right away with ArA, just know that the results will only get much, much better in the coming weeks!
    This! ArA just gets better with time. So if your enjoying it now, itl blow your mind later
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    This! ArA just gets better with time. So if your enjoying it now, itl blow your mind later
    I thought at around week 2 when it was fully kicking in it was awesome, weeks 3 and on were insane.
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