Seeking advice: non-PH test boost/strength supp?

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  1. I used to get headaches all the time with original X-Factor, it's a common side effect. X-Factor Advanced addresses that side effect.
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  2. hi everyone, new to this forum. Just a quick question, is there any downside to stacking ARA with P6 extreme? I normally would not do this but I just have a surplus of P6 right now

  3. Quote Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
    hi everyone, new to this forum. Just a quick question, is there any downside to stacking ARA with P6 extreme? I normally would not do this but I just have a surplus of P6 right now
    No downsides, the two stack well!
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    No downsides, the two stack well!
    Sounds good ill definitely start the stack on the next cycle. I always respond well to ara in the past. Excited how this next phase goes

  5. Hmm.. if you get a cold during a ArA cycle do you stop or continue? would suck to be like 20 days in and get a cold and have to stop : \

  6. Intimidate Is my fav!

  7. I may be misunderstanding the question, but I think of Proviron (oral). 12-hour half life, few if any sides, lots of strength gains.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Piledahlaren View Post
    Hmm.. if you get a cold during a ArA cycle do you stop or continue? would suck to be like 20 days in and get a cold and have to stop : \
    You would only have to quit if you took it everyday and were taking a lot of NSAIDs or having a lot of inflammation problems. I only take it preworkout and don't lift if I have a cold so missing a couple of days won't hurt you.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Piledahlaren View Post
    Hmm.. if you get a cold during a ArA cycle do you stop or continue? would suck to be like 20 days in and get a cold and have to stop : \
    No need to stop ArA supplementation if you get a simple cold.
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  10. So I wanted to follow up as well...Im 3 weeks into my Xfactor Advanced/Drive Stack and Im amazed TBQH! I have jumped so much on all my lifts its simply mind blowing...the fact of the matter is, I hadnt really lifted real hard prior to starting the stack, cause I have been working so damn much and training was more important then lifting, but now I've passed any "muscle memory" type gains, Im the strongest I have been in years, and Im definitely the strongest I have ever been lb 4 lb! Now here is the kicker...I have only been taking 2 gells, not 4!! IDK why I thought that was what I was to do...but I thought someone said that on here someone, but I may be wrong. So should I up this to 4 preworkout?! Am I gonna explode with strength and power if I do this?! Cause Im pretty stoked on how I have been feeling lately, I can only imagine doubling the dose! lol
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by gymratluke View Post
    So I wanted to follow up as well...Im 3 weeks into my Xfactor Advanced/Drive Stack and Im amazed TBQH! I have jumped so much on all my lifts its simply mind blowing...the fact of the matter is, I hadnt really lifted real hard prior to starting the stack, cause I have been working so damn much and training was more important then lifting, but now I've passed any "muscle memory" type gains, Im the strongest I have been in years, and Im definitely the strongest I have ever been lb 4 lb! Now here is the kicker...I have only been taking 2 gells, not 4!! IDK why I thought that was what I was to do...but I thought someone said that on here someone, but I may be wrong. So should I up this to 4 preworkout?! Am I gonna explode with strength and power if I do this?! Cause Im pretty stoked on how I have been feeling lately, I can only imagine doubling the dose! lol
    Used animal test before and I did fine with their smaller dose. But since it's safe of course you want to go with the higher recommended dosage and I knw that's what u wanna hear

  12. Quote Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
    Used animal test before and I did fine with their smaller dose. But since it's safe of course you want to go with the higher recommended dosage and I knw that's what u wanna hear
    Animal Test actually uses a very high dose (about 1450mg).
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Animal Test actually uses a very high dose (about 1450mg).
    Its not a bad product at all but I wont spend $60 on it

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  14. I didn't think this feedback warranted a new thread so I thought I'd leave my thoughts in this thread - I'm about 10 workouts into my first ArA run and I'm pretty excited about this stuff. I weighed in the "least effective supplements" thread that I need to heavily dose just about everything I take to get any kind of effect. I'm following Neuron's well known ArA dosing protocol of pre-workout only with GMS and L-Carnitine, however, I'm taking just 1 gram of ArA right now.

    The very first day I took ArA I did get a bit of a dull headache but that hasn't happened since the first day of dosing. I'd been expecting the dreaded increase in DOMS discomfort but honestly it's been a non-issue. So, what have I noticed? Immediate strength gains and a substantial increase in appetite. Again, I'm only 10 workouts into the first run at 1 gram a day, but I'm stoked about the results so far!

  15. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Animal Test actually uses a very high dose (about 1450mg).
    What I meant about low dosage is when compared to the X-Factor. Animal test has two little ArA pills inside those packs which is like you said approximately 1450mg. X-factor can be taken up to 4 pills which is close to 3.3 grams. So animal test is a lower in ArA dosage compared to what gymratluke was taking.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by tony soprano View Post
    I didn't think this feedback warranted a new thread so I thought I'd leave my thoughts in this thread - I'm about 10 workouts into my first ArA run and I'm pretty excited about this stuff. I weighed in the "least effective supplements" thread that I need to heavily dose just about everything I take to get any kind of effect. I'm following Neuron's well known ArA dosing protocol of pre-workout only with GMS and L-Carnitine, however, I'm taking just 1 gram of ArA right now.

    The very first day I took ArA I did get a bit of a dull headache but that hasn't happened since the first day of dosing. I'd been expecting the dreaded increase in DOMS discomfort but honestly it's been a non-issue. So, what have I noticed? Immediate strength gains and a substantial increase in appetite. Again, I'm only 10 workouts into the first run at 1 gram a day, but I'm stoked about the results so far!
    Second the immediate strength gains

  17. Im on my third day with ArA, little more pump and strength is up already : ) using it with 50mg Erase and 100-150mg forskolin ed... about 1 week left of forskolin and 2-3 with Erase.. after that ArA will work on its own

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Piledahlaren View Post
    Im on my third day with ArA, little more pump and strength is up already : ) using it with 50mg Erase and 100-150mg forskolin ed... about 1 week left of forskolin and 2-3 with Erase.. after that ArA will work on its own
    Always glad to hear from users who see results right away with ArA, just know that the results will only get much, much better in the coming weeks!
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post

    Always glad to hear from users who see results right away with ArA, just know that the results will only get much, much better in the coming weeks!
    This! ArA just gets better with time. So if your enjoying it now, itl blow your mind later
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    This! ArA just gets better with time. So if your enjoying it now, itl blow your mind later
    I thought at around week 2 when it was fully kicking in it was awesome, weeks 3 and on were insane.
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  21. intimidate srt and tropinol xp.....test boost and increase sleep and recovery, who couldn't benefit from that?

  22. Absolutely, the second half of an X-Factor cycle is always when the painful pumps come on and the majority of the changes on the scale happen.
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  23. wow! I cant wait already happy with the product! how long can I run ArA ? 12 weeks? I have to pause my forskolin and erase been running them for like 8 weeks soon

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Piledahlaren View Post
    wow! I cant wait already happy with the product! how long can I run ArA ? 12 weeks? I have to pause my forskolin and erase been running them for like 8 weeks soon
    Recommended to run 50 days on 50 days off. When I run it, I do 50 workout days.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Piledahlaren View Post
    wow! I cant wait already happy with the product! how long can I run ArA ? 12 weeks? I have to pause my forskolin and erase been running them for like 8 weeks soon
    We typically recommend 50 workouts as most are doing preWO only dosing. Many have gone longer with no adverse effects.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    We typically recommend 50 workouts as most are doing preWO only dosing. Many have gone longer with no adverse effects.
    Hi there,

    I train "only" 3 times per week so it will be like 16 weeks to get the 50 workouts rule. Will I get decent results from only dosing thrice per week? I'm planning to stack it with 100 mg of Forskolin, this will be taken daily for 12 weeks.

    Thank you.

    Cheers.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by ingenierito25 View Post
    Hi there, I train "only" 3 times per week so it will be like 16 weeks to get the 50 workouts rule. Will I get decent results from only dosing thrice per week? I'm planning to stack it with 100 mg of Forskolin, this will be taken daily for 12 weeks. Thank you. Cheers.
    You should see good gains even with 3 days a week. If you wanted, you could dose on an off day to get 4 doses in per week.
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  28. Yep on 3x a week you will still get good results, dose at 6-8 caps preWO with training only 3x-week.
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