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Can always add aav2 to round out any stackAny reason for not wanting to use a stimulant?
DAA + Erase/EPro + Forskolin + GDA (Recompadrol/SSv2/Glycophase) would be a nice stack.
Also, you only need 3-5 grams of creatine per day. Timing is irrelevant but yes I did read that study about taking in creatine post workout which is totally fine (I do pre and post just for my own convenience).
Have yet to try it but hear great things .Can always add aav2 to round out any stack
Metabolic powder alsoCan always add aav2 to round out any stack
Hi JHK. Congrats on your success up to this point. I agree with everyone's suggestions in regards to supplement options and creatine use. Another product that I'd consider would be Compound 20®, especially in combination with Forskolin-95. There's potential synergy between the two and it's stimulant-free as well.I have been dieting for a couple months and I'm pretty happy with where I'm at minus a bit of stomach fat. I've been reading that yohimbine is extremely effective for fat loss especially in stubborn areas but should be avoided for those with anxiety issues. Is there anything comparable that will not cause/exacerbate anxiety and is also not a stimulant? Would a DAA/AI combination be just as effective for fat loss?
Also, I have always taken my creatine split before and after workouts, but recently read that post-workout is when it is most effective. Is there any reason I should not just take the full 10g post workout?
lower abdominal fat is the hardest to get. avoid weighted abdominal workouts. what are you doing for cardio and how many cals & carbs are u eating a day.I have been dieting for a couple months and I'm pretty happy with where I'm at minus a bit of stomach fat. I've been reading that yohimbine is extremely effective for fat loss especially in stubborn areas but should be avoided for those with anxiety issues. Is there anything comparable that will not cause/exacerbate anxiety and is also not a stimulant? Would a DAA/AI combination be just as effective for fat loss?
Also, I have always taken my creatine split before and after workouts, but recently read that post-workout is when it is most effective. Is there any reason I should not just take the full 10g post workout?
Given that you can't do caffiene I would suggestThanks for the replies everyone! To answer some questions:
I'm 30 years old, about 5' 11", between 205-210 depending on the time of day and I would guess around 15% body fat. My goal is to lose some stomach fat while maintaining as much muscle mass as possible. This might be hoping for too much, but I recently read Coop's Corner #4: Alpha-2 Antagonism? Yes Please. (can't post a link yet) and it sounded like exactly what I wanted - something that specifically targets stomach fat while sparing as much muscle as possible.
I have really bad acid reflux so I stay away from caffeine for the most part. Every once in a while I'm completely dead at work and drink a can of the zero sugar/zero carb Monster and even that gets to me sometimes.
I haven't been diagnosed with anything, but have had panic attacks in the past that stem from acid reflux that sometimes makes me feel like my throat is closing up/having a heart attack. It's been a while since I've had one, but would like to avoid anything that could cause one if possible.
I've been doing a little bit of research on DAA and AIs for a bit now, but I'm still wary about taking these especially since I see the occasional post about someone claiming gyno and screwed up hormone levels after taking them. Am I just overly cautious at this point?
In terms of the Recompadrol - I've read some things that suggest that it would not be effective on a low carb diet (I think my normal intake would be between 100-200g). Is there any truth to this?
Thanks again everyone!
Good advice here.Given that you can't do caffiene I would suggest
Alpha t2
AAv2
Recompadrol
Erase
This would be also stim free where the mild stim comes from the yohimbe in the T2.
All VERY effective products. Shoot me a pm if you have any questions.
Cardio: 20 minutes LISS cardio Monday - Friday, Crossfit/HIIT/Complexes on Saturdays, 45 minutes of LISS on Sundays.
Carbs: Between 100 - 200g Monday - Friday consisting mostly of brown rice and fruits.
I recently read some nice reviews about Burn24 - does anyone have any experience with this product? Also, I noticed that it contains green coffee bean extract, but is being advertised as non-stim - is this correct?
gotcha. getting that lower ab region lean is the toughest part. gotta be on point with diet and increase the cardio intensity.Weekend cardio is done fasted in the morning. During the week I do cardio in the evenings after my workout.
haha oh godlower abdominal fat is the hardest to get. avoid weighted abdominal workouts.
do you not understand or do you disagree?haha oh god
Disagree. Weighted ab work preventing people from losing the last bit of lower abdominal fat, no, just no.do you not understand or do you disagree?
to each his own.Disagree. Weighted ab work preventing people from losing the last bit of lower abdominal fat, no, just no.
This is my take. I don't ever change how I workout whether I am cutting or bulking, diet takes precedence. I still lift heavy which includes olympic movements and crossfit. So my core gets hit hard regardless, probably the hardest during olympic and compound movements. Should I stop doing those movements because they are weighted? No. Would doing weighted ab mats with those lifts hold me back from losing that last bit of lower ab fat, no. If anything it will build the abdominals like you said and make them pop more when your BF gets low enough. It will burn more calories than body weight or no ab exercises at all so I can't see why it would hold anybody back and spot reduction is not possible like you said. People lose fat there last which might be the collective anecdotal feedback behind weighted ab exercises preventing fat loss there specifically but think about how that sounds? Why would an exercise or building a muscle up prevent fat gain in one spot? It wouldn't our bodies don't work like that.to each his own.
you cant spot lose fat. "oh i only wanna get rid of this section". you cant do that. in my experiences as well as many others on this forum, the best ab work is no ab work. just a solid diet. many compound lifts already work the abs. adding exercises like Zumba and stuff like that are great core workouts. no need for weighted ab workouts unless your stomach is very very lean as it is and you want to BUILD the muscle.
so for you, you build the abdominal muscle to lose the fat?
We may have a misunderstanding here...This is my take. I don't ever change how I workout whether I am cutting or bulking, diet takes precedence. I still lift heavy which includes olympic movements and crossfit. So my core gets hit hard regardless, probably the hardest during olympic and compound movements. Should I stop doing those movements because they are weighted? No. Would doing weighted ab mats with those lifts hold me back from losing that last bit of lower ab fat, no. If anything it will build the abdominals like you said and make them pop more when your BF gets low enough. It will burn more calories than body weight or no ab exercises at all so I can't see why it would hold anybody back and spot reduction is not possible like you said. People lose fat there last which might be the collective anecdotal feedback behind weighted ab exercises preventing fat loss there specifically but think about how that sounds? Why would an exercise or building a muscle up prevent fat gain in one spot? It wouldn't our bodies don't work like that.
People probably don't even need to do core specific exercises a whole lot if they do compound movements and olympic lifts as those will build your core better than some planks, or weighted sit ups, etc. More food for thought, any ab exercise you do is weighted to a certain extent. None of us weigh zero pounds, some of us are 230 lbs and some of us are 180 lbs should heavy guys deter from ab work because they are heavier and therefore lifting a heavier load to do a crunch, sit up, etc.
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