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    Melatonin vs gaba vs zma


    I end up playing tennis or running late at night before sleep and I haven't been able to get any quality sleep for a long time. I also wake up to pee 3ish times a night. Which would be the best sleep aid? As well as best for bodybuilding purposes

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    Melatonin at 500mcg - 1mg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Melatonin at 500mcg - 1mg.
    Have you tried GABA? Or ZMA? What did melatonin do for you?
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    Melatonin is my go to. I've tried GABA and zma. I don't think zma helped me sleep. GABA and melatonin is my favorite combo, but GABA is pricey compared to melatonin. Good sleep. Crazy dreams. I especially like it when I'm not going to get very much sleep because it seems like the sleep I do get is of a higher quality.
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    Good thread for sleep aid:


    looking for a good sleep aid
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    That's perfect cuz I rarely get enough sleep now. How much is melatonin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris9394 View Post
    That's perfect cuz I rarely get enough sleep now. How much is melatonin?
    Pennies per serving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Pennies per serving.
    Wow. That sounds fantastic!
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    Melatonin is the best of the 3. It induces sleep via circadian rhythm. GABA induces sleep via peripheral relaxation. ZMA enhances sleep quality via magneisum and b6. Your best bet is 1mg melatonin + 2 caps Abyss Unparalleled IME
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Melatonin is the best of the 3. It induces sleep via circadian rhythm. GABA induces sleep via peripheral relaxation. ZMA enhances sleep quality via magneisum and b6. Your best bet is 1mg melatonin + 2 caps Abyss Unparalleled IME
    Hi coop,

    Always helping out people and trying your best to explain when so much involved is very difficult I know. One question am often noticing you will define things then listing what you think the best, but an example melatonin in even small doses make me awful groggy next day when GABA does this not at all. So it is seeming that to say is the "Best" would intake to many factors for such broad statement.

    Like some drug may acutely address symptom the best but overall would not be the "best" drug, rather another drug that addressing symptom as well but suited more properly.

    Only bringing to attention as some may read start on the melatonin or any other thing thinking the best and that all there is to it, but maybe not for them, friend I have would tell me taking melatonin he is feeling depressed for a week and he not prone to depression but those that are also maybe it will be less optional.

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    Melatonin hasn't really worked that well for me personally but GABA at high enough doses does wonders. Problem with GABA however is that after awhile, I find that the effects diminish in which I would have to take a break from it.

    Abyss Unparalleled however, that's some good stuff. Stayed effective through the entire bottle, if anything, it became more effective the longer I used it. Totally knocked my sleeping pattern back to normal.
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    melatonin is my favorite of the three.....gaba tends to keep me awake, and zma doesn't give me good sleep, i kind of toss and turn when i take it
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    Of those 3 I like GABA at 2g+ the best.
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    I like GABA pre-workout. It always gives me good energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Melatonin is the best of the 3. It induces sleep via circadian rhythm. GABA induces sleep via peripheral relaxation. ZMA enhances sleep quality via magneisum and b6. Your best bet is 1mg melatonin + 2 caps Abyss Unparalleled IME
    Do these effects happen with the first dose or do they have to get in ur system like loading?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    Hi coop,

    Always helping out people and trying your best to explain when so much involved is very difficult I know. One question am often noticing you will define things then listing what you think the best, but an example melatonin in even small doses make me awful groggy next day when GABA does this not at all. So it is seeming that to say is the "Best" would intake to many factors for such broad statement.

    Like some drug may acutely address symptom the best but overall would not be the "best" drug, rather another drug that addressing symptom as well but suited more properly.

    Only bringing to attention as some may read start on the melatonin or any other thing thinking the best and that all there is to it, but maybe not for them, friend I have would tell me taking melatonin he is feeling depressed for a week and he not prone to depression but those that are also maybe it will be less optional.

    Everyone like to be a critic lol please understand am only trying to help
    There is no one size fits all, but there is a "best" based on an educated guess from the available data. Of the 3, it is most likely that a naive user will respond best to melatonin

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    Do these effects happen with the first dose or do they have to get in ur system like loading?
    Neither. It usually presents 2-3 months in
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    There is no one size fits all, but there is a "best" based on an educated guess from the available data. Of the 3, it is most likely that a naive user will respond best to melatonin
    I see where coming from coop but you see is it not so very much unlike data mining on way conducting this advice impersonally educated guessing to one size fitting, trying to understand do you not think it is naive user needing option mostly of all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post

    I see where coming from coop but you see is it not so very much unlike data mining on way conducting this advice impersonally educated guessing to one size fitting, trying to understand do you not think it is naive user needing option mostly of all.
    What?
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    I picked up some 5mg tabs of melatonin. Does it have to build up in your system or does it work immediately
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris9394 View Post
    I picked up some 5mg tabs of melatonin. Does it have to build up in your system or does it work immediately
    Immediately.
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    I get some of my better sleep with ZMA overtime. Melatonin worked at first for me but seemed like I would always need to up it to get to sleep.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't melatonin like test in the sense that if u add test in from an outside source ur body shuts down its testosterone production and my uncles doctor said that melatonin taken from an outside source shuts down ur body's natural melatonin production.
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    And if that is true how would one restart their natural melatonin production?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    I see where coming from coop but you see is it not so very much unlike data mining on way conducting this advice impersonally educated guessing to one size fitting, trying to understand do you not think it is naive user needing option mostly of all.
    He's also used the products he suggested, bro.
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    Just so you all know I'm trying melatonin and for 3 nights I've had great sleep and crazy dreams
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoupNaziNazi View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't melatonin like test in the sense that if u add test in from an outside source ur body shuts down its testosterone production and my uncles doctor said that melatonin taken from an outside source shuts down ur body's natural melatonin production.
    No. But it is something that naturally decreases in production as we age and is generally more beneficial in older folks. I once took 3-5 mg every night for over a year with no problems sleeping cold turkey.
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    I started using ZMA about 4-5 months ago and I love it. I have used melatonin for yrs at 5 mg.

    If I really have trouble I use REM 8.0. That's stuff is a knock out. I don't recommend everyday use but a maybe a few days in a row for outstanding sleep an a few days off. Or a week or two of use with a week off.
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    Melatonin does nothing for me, gaba is nice to relax during the day, but ZMA puts me out like a light. I take it and literally 45 min later I just want to rest and I can get 6-7 hours with no interruption. For someone like me that has trouble with 3-4 hours solid, it is incredible.
  

  
 

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