Chrysin gel, lowers estrogen?

[Junior2491]

Hey I was wondering if chrysin gel actually helps lower estrogen. I got some blood work and my testosterone levels were 246 and im 22 years old. Thats kinda low for a young man dont you think? He didnt check my estrogen levels but I had some gyno flare up, the puffy nips come and goes every couple days. So im guessing my estrogen levels have to be high, cause my penis feels kinda numb at times. My man stuff works down there but just at times feels numb and weird. He also recommended hcg injections to help raise my testosterone. So the question is chrysin gel decent at helping lower estrogen levels? And is hcg decent at raising testosterone?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

not when there are so many better options that are tried and true.
look into reversitol v2, Triazole, Erase or intimidate SRT. add a decent test booster like tropinol, activate extreme, bioforge or even testabolan.
any of the two types of products stacked together should make you feel great and reduce your estrogen and optimize your hormones.

for the puffy nips you should try some inhibit p.

 

[Junior2491]

Thanks bro, my doctor told me not to try anything from gnc etc but He lost credability with me when I asked to get blood work done for my test and est and they only checked my test. Came back at 246 which they said is a on the lower end of normal. But isnt 246 very very low for a 22 year old male ? Whats your opinion on that? And I read up on the chryslin gel and read that its not too effective at all.... And from my understanding the hcg will raise my testosterone but that some of that can convert to estrogen am I right? And make my problem worst, thats when I mentioned that it would probably be safer if I take an estrogen blocker if Im gonna take a suppliment for my testosterone. Idk all this is new to me, thats y im asking u bro's out to kinda teach a bro like me haha. But im gonma definitely look into those suppliments u mentioned. R they safe n simple? Cause these doctors keep giving me **** that doesnt really help.

 

[mr.cooper69]

At age 22, you are making a poor decision by self-medicating. Your doctor can refer you to an endocrinologist, who will probably request follow-up testing.

 

[Junior2491]

I agree with you about self medicating being wrong. My doctor was the one who reccomended me the chrysin gel and also the hcg injections. Ive already seen two urogists because my penis and testicles were feeling numb about a month ago. Te first one didnt even care to check my blood but this one checked my test levels. Another thing to add is im paying out of pocket since i have no insurance, and im not doing too good financially. This whole situation sucks, I was feeling better but I have days when I have symptoms of high estrogen such as my nipples getting very sensitive/puffy, penis feels numb and shrinks a little, i get very very irritable at little things, it just bothers/scares me that doctors dont seem to really care, and I dont really have money to go see more docs, this sucks. I asked my doc if he could reccomend an estrogen blocker and he wrote me a prescription for chrysin gel, and the hcg for testosterone. I read up on the chrysin and it seems to suck. Would the eraser suppliment help me in this situation? To lower my estrogen? Cause My nipples get puffy and when they get puffy thats when my penis feels weird so I know that they are somehow connected with my estrogen levels.

 

[etnukekav]

Did the urologists rule out any kind of testicular cancer or prostate issues with the numb dick and balls? That would scare the hell out of me.
Another quick thought, have you used PH's or the like? Your issue may be a bad or lack of PCT. Just throwing around ideas.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

im supprised he gave you a script for chrysin?? WTF lol. anyhow I do agree with coop here but since your in a bind and will likely buy something to try anyhow..
yes Erase will help you with the estrogen and the inhibit p will help with the puffy nips. don't use them for more than 6 weeks and then take about a 4 week break. by chance, are you a little over weight?

 

[Junior2491]

They did an ultrasound on my testicles because they were in pain. They said they looked fine. The testicle pain stopped a while ago. This all started around july 17 when I started taking finasteride to prevent hair loss, i was on it for a month and then noticed my chest flared up and I couldnt ejaculate. My chest went back to normal, and i can ejaculate fine now, feels as good as ever but i notice that like once every two weeks my nips will get puffy and when that happens my dick feels a little numb. I been getting better but just feel the symptoms of low t, thats y i got my blood checked and it came back low testosterone. I was worried the side effects were gonna be permanent, n got bad bad anxiety for like two weeks. I calmed down when I noticed I was feeling better and get morning wood, etc but its just when my nips flare i feel weird,I feel that its the estrogen. So would the erase and inhibit p help me ? Cause these docs keep charging me alotta $ for just a pat on the back and a script for chrysin an hcg.

 

[Junior2491]

Another thing is I notice my facial and body hair grows back a whole lot slower than before, I used to shave my beard and the next day i would see ALOT of regrowth but now its ALOT slower same for my body hair. And I gained like 7 pounds in the last two months but thats due to me feeling blah (im strongly assumimg this is due to my hormonal imbalance) and not exercising like i normally do (basketball, running, lifting, etc)

 

[etnukekav]

you stopped with the finastride right?

 

[Junior2491]

Of couse, I was on it for a month and stopped as soon as I got gyno, It must have raised my testosterone very high cause I had extremely high libido for the month and then thats when I think that testosterone converted to estrogen to make up for the HIGH testosterone. Also I notice that when my gyno/nipples get puffy is usually always at night. I been wanting to start taking the gym serious again to gain some more muscle, and now that my test is low and my estro is most likely high I feel that im not gonna gain much from lifting now. I just dont wanna worry about my nips puffing up, or gyno worsening and for my penis to feel numb when that occurs, I rather level my hormones out. Thats why I am asking if I should take the Erase and Inhibit E suppliments to help lower my estrogen, I'd plan on taking 1 pill a day to see how my body reacts in that week. Because I read up and the chrysin doesnt seem to be a good option, and its $50.00 for a one month supply. So basically what I want to do is Raise my testosterone (not too much) but up from my 246 levels now, and lower my estrogen a little. Ideally I would like to get full bloodwork tests done NOW to see exactly where my levels are currently, then take the suppliments and see if the occasional gyno, numbness goes away completely, and then re-test if/when im feeling better to see at what levels my body is best at. Also another question is how low is 246 testosterone levels for a 22 year old? I been noticing my facial and body hair takes MUCH longer to grow back than before and I also feel more irritable.

 

[Jiigzz]

Finsastride inhibits conversion of test to DHT (which is why you used it I assume), because of this, your facial hair will obviously also suffer as DHT is responsible for that aspect (it is antiandrogen).

All of the effects you are noticing are typical of the product; gyno, ejaculation issues etc etc.

Does the doc know you used this product?

 

[Junior2491]

Yeah that was the first thing I told the doctor, about the meds. He said that it would take some time for the hormones to stabilize, and they have been getting better cause it was bad the first three weeks i stopped and has gotten better, I was scared I would never ejaculate, get an errection, etc but I get errection, ejaculate normal, and etc, but its just that the occasional flare up of gyno that comes along with the numbness for a few days that bothers me. Thats why the doctor said he could give me the hcg to help get my testosterone up faster and the chrysin to lower the estrogen. ANd im thinking maybe the testosterone will convert more dht if im using a aromatose inhibiter like erase?

 

[Jiigzz]

Well hCG mimic LH (the hormone which stimulates Test production in the testes) but because it mimics the hormone, using it will subsequently downregulate/ suppress the body's own production of LH and thus coming off it will take some time for the body to normalise.

But as your test is very low for someone your age, just do what the doctor/ endo prescribes because they know a lot more than we do

 

[Junior2491]

Thats the thing, the doc told me my body might become dependant on the hcg so he said he didnt strongly reccomend it. Thats why im thinking maybe using a natural testosterone booster like active xtreme and an anti estrogen like erase or maybe just erase alone? I honestly think the erase would be a better choice than the hcg. The doctor reccomended chrysin gel (which isnt very good at blocking estrogen) so idk.. I would like a little more testosterone and a little less estro. Do you guys think taking 1 erase pill a day would help regulate my hormones? Im starting to hit the gym and would welcome some higher testosterone to help build some more muscle since I feel im not gaining much lately with the low t.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Ok, let's get something ironed out: if you doctor recommended you start chrysin gel to treat hypogonadism, he is an absolute idiot. Get a new PCP or see an endocrinologist.

 

[Junior2491]

Thats exactly why im here, the first urologist I went to I broke down and was in tears (this was when my gyno was really flaring up bad) I was very emotional at that time, I cried for any little thing.... That was the first three weeks off the medication. I told the doctor about the pills I was taking and what was going on with my body and he told me "Im gonna fix you up" and walks back into the room with a 30 day trial of Cialis and a card to a psychiatrist..... That sounds funny, I cant make this **** up. I paid $200 for that visit. Then this doctor seemed like he knows his stuff then prescribes me chrysin for my estrogen. Idk man im running on low $ and just want to solve this hormonal imbalance. The erase supps sound like they could help, and would help avoid alot of this big headache of doctors but idk.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Thats exactly why im here, the first urologist I went to I broke down and was in tears (this was when my gyno was really flaring up bad) I was very emotional at that time, I cried for any little thing.... That was the first three weeks off the medication. I told the doctor about the pills I was taking and what was going on with my body and he told me "Im gonna fix you up" and walks back into the room with a 30 day trial of Cialis and a card to a psychiatrist..... That sounds funny, I cant make this **** up. I paid $200 for that visit. Then this doctor seemed like he knows his stuff then prescribes me chrysin for my estrogen. Idk man im running on low $ and just want to solve this hormonal imbalance. The erase supps sound like they could help, and would help avoid alot of this big headache of doctors but idk.

If this actually happened, you should report the doctor to online medical services. This makes me very angry. Despite my affilitation with PES, Erase is not the way to go. Do you have health insurance of any sort?

 

[Junior2491]

And I tell my close family members of my gyno flare ups and that my hormones feel like theyre a little out of whack but they couldnt care less. It is almost as annoying as the issue itself, trying to find someone to help with this issue whether it be a doctor I pay to help me (which they really havent done) or a family member to at least pretend they give a **** and at least attempt to care.. Its just crazy lol feeling your hormones out of whack and feeling helpless cause the doctors dont really help and family doesnt care. Its not a good feeling bros.

 

[Junior2491]

I dont have insurance

 

[Junior2491]

So another night and my nipples are getting puffy again, im noticing this is becoming a trend these last 3 nights. And with it comes the numbing and my penis shrinks a little. This feels like my estrogen is high, I dont want this to keep happening i would like to treat it asap, can i ask why i shouldnt get the erase to lower the estrogen? Cause days keep passing and this is happening at night and i dont want my chest to keep getting bigger.... At this rate I cant wear shirts my size because its starting to become noticable and my nipples are starting to point out oc my shirts. I feel i need to stop this soon. Should i get the erase or another suppliment to stop this gyno asap or should i wait and save to see another doctor? Which might take two or three weeks since all the decent endo's in my area charge around 200$ for just the visit plus any bloodwork which is more. Im really wanting to get the erase to help stop this gyno cause it is reallllly starting to concern me.

 

[Junior2491]

If anyone can give some advice I would appreciate it, I really wanna know if I should get the erase cause my gyno is showing up during the day now and my penis is feeling numb along with it..... I was feeling better for over a month and noticed these symptoms coming back. Its always the gyno flare up that tells me when im gonna start feeling weird. I called an endocrinologist and they wanted to charge 400$ for just the visit and 600$ for complete labs.

 

[Jiigzz]

If anyone can give some advice I would appreciate it, I really wanna know if I should get the erase cause my gyno is showing up during the day now and my penis is feeling numb along with it..... I was feeling better for over a month and noticed these symptoms coming back. Its always the gyno flare up that tells me when im gonna start feeling weird. I called an endocrinologist and they wanted to charge 400$ for just the visit and 600$ for complete labs.

Yikes man those prices are ridiculous. Unfortunately this has gone from from a supplement issue to a medical one, hence noones input on the matter. Obviously you are free to use Erase if you want; and I don't see why not except for the fact it may screw with whatever treatment the Doc/ Endo puts you on.

 

[Junior2491]

I know the price is crazy. And its that these doctors dont care or dont seem to want to help. Whats really bothering me is this gyno and when I get the flare ups
I know that the numbnesss comes with it. What really confuses me is why the doctor didnt check my estrogen levels if they were taking blood tests (I mentioned the gyno). He prescribed me the Chrysin and mentioned HCG but didnt strongly reccomend that one, but im currently not taking anything at all right now or since I stopped the finasteride. Wouldnt the erase do what the chrysin is supposed to do but better which is lower my estrogen? And that will stop the gyno flare ups and high estrogen symptoms?

 

[Blingzip]

Hey Bros I'm very late on this thread (haven't been on these forums in a long time). Junior2491 (OP) what has happened since you last posted? I'm interested in finding out any updates on your situation, what you decided to do, etc. I noticed you kept mentioning about Erase but even a PES rep suggested not using it. (I had a bad experience with Erase btw, used it for 2 weeks and it seemed to INCREASE my estro - weight gain (water -though I wonder if fat too), decreased or no libido, itchy nipples. Perhaps that's just me, or perhaps because I was kind of overweight at the time of using it, but still....

How do you other posters feel about him starting with something "milder" like DIM, Nettle root extract, etc.? At least until further actual medical diagnosis, workup, etc? This one sounds DEEP, I wonder if it really is the finasteride that caused all this? But yea it sounds like it's beyond just supps now. I'm interested to hear opinions from more knowledgeable folks on just generally regaining normal hormonal BALANCE esp after using meds and/or supps that throw things off?? (Sorry for the possible hijack OP).

 

[Blingzip]

By the way I too am amazed that your doc could have taken your symptoms and history and at the end of it merely prescribe Cialis (along with the chrysin gel) and refer you for Psych. Sorry you had to go through so much crap there.

 

[aw1981]

This is an expensive treatment do?