Legal/Over the Counter Beta-Agonists & Alpha-Antagonist?

  1. Legal/Over the Counter Beta-Agonists & Alpha-Antagonist?


    Hello lovely people!



    The title is straight forward. I am aware of Epimedium and icaarin. Anything else?

    Cheers!
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  2. Icariin/epimedium is not either. Yohimbine is the best alpha 2 antagonist and ephedrine is the best beta agonist. As a supplement, alphamine contains 2 beta agonists + a host of alpha 2 antagonists
    http://pescience.com/
    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES

  3. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Icariin/epimedium is not either. Yohimbine is the best alpha 2 antagonist and ephedrine is the best beta agonist. As a supplement, alphamine contains 2 beta agonists + a host of alpha 2 antagonists
    Regular yohimbine is so rough on me.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Icariin/epimedium is not either. Yohimbine is the best alpha 2 antagonist and ephedrine is the best beta agonist. As a supplement, alphamine contains 2 beta agonists + a host of alpha 2 antagonists
    Interesting!

    FYI Icariin is yohimbine and epimedium definitely is listed as an alpha antagonist and NO producer..

    Alphamine though...very cool!
    My current UNsponsored PES EP cutting log:http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/234161-adonisbelts-pes-erase.html

  5. Give alphamine a try, I think you will like it a lot.
    doing my own thang!

  6. Quote Originally Posted by AdonisBelt View Post
    Interesting!FYI Icariin is yohimbine and epimedium definitely is listed as an alpha antagonist and NO producer..Alphamine though...very cool!
    Icariin is not yohimbe. Epimedium and icariin are not alpha 2 antagonists
    http://pescience.com/
    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES

  7. Quote Originally Posted by AdonisBelt View Post
    Interesting!

    FYI Icariin is yohimbine and epimedium definitely is listed as an alpha antagonist and NO producer..

    Alphamine though...very cool!
    No.

    And yes, Alphamine is very cool.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by AdonisBelt View Post
    Interesting!

    FYI Icariin is yohimbine and epimedium definitely is listed as an alpha antagonist and NO producer..

    Alphamine though...very cool!
    this is not true. they are 2 totally different ingredients
    1200 pound club

  9. You guys are correct. I made a mistake and Icariin is the active flavonoid of epimedium.

    Oops.

    Anywho, it seems we have narrowed our list to 2: yohimbine, and this alphamine.

    I am still convinced that epimedium is an alpha-antagonist as its function is increased blood flow, vasodilation, NO production, but I will set that topic aside as that's not what this thread is about lol

    What exactly is in alphamine? I am more interested in the ingredients (ie yohimbine) rather than the products (ie primaforce yohimbine)

    I just like to research the ingredients or their precursors before I just blindly take/buy it

    How are those 2 the only options!
    My current UNsponsored PES EP cutting log:http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/234161-adonisbelts-pes-erase.html

  10. Read the write up on NutraPlanet for info on Alphamine. Top notch product.
    PES - Physique Enhancing Science
  

  
 

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