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    First timer bulk stack help!


    Hey AM, first time poster here. Have done lots of reading through these forums, you guys seem very knowledgable about all aspects of bb'ing, especially supplements. And your company reps aren't pushy like in other forums

    My Goals

    Been bulking for awhile and will continue on through next summer trying to stay as lean as possible.

    My current stack is just basic stuff...creatine, some Bcaa, fish oil, multi, and some various pre-workouts.

    I am wanting kick it up with something new to keep me on track and push through my workouts and meal plan. From what I've seen around here OG Anabeta is great for bulking stacked with Erase or alone. Also very interested in Natadrol which also has some great feedback. What would be the better option for someone who has never tried either? Looking for lean mass gains, and any leaning effect would be welcomed as well

    Natadrol
    OG Anabeta/Erase
    Is the Erase necessary?
    Or maybe splurge for some Anabeta Elite?

    Open to other suggestions as well, but more interested in these

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    my vote goes to anabeta. especially if u have problems getting in enough calories
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    Thanks for the reply^...I can normally throw down 3000 cals pretty good, but there are days I struggle. Will probably up calories alittle more when I start my supplement of choice
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    Anabeta + Forskolin + X-Gels is a killer stack or if you spring for the Elite (which already contains forskolin) then X-Gels + Forskolin is legit.

    X-Gels has human data showing increases in strength and Forskolin has human data for body composition (increased LBM and reduced fat mass).
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    Will check out the x-gels...thx
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    If it is your first time with these products I always recommend choosing one and going with it alone. This allows you to save some money and better determine exactly how well the product works for you. AnaBeta almost seems like it was made for bulking though.

    Anacylclus P. (AnaBeta), Forskolin (F-95), and ArA (X-gels) are three of my favorite ingredients in my continual lean bulks and trying them out is something I suggest to most people. I'd start with some independently, but later combined it doesn't get much better than how Jiigzz put it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Anabeta + Forskolin + X-Gels is a killer stack or if you spring for the Elite (which already contains forskolin) then X-Gels + Forskolin is legit.

    X-Gels has human data showing increases in strength and Forskolin has human data for body composition (increased LBM and reduced fat mass).
    I was about to suggest this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Anabeta + Forskolin + X-Gels is a killer stack or if you spring for the Elite (which already contains forskolin) then X-Gels + Forskolin is legit.

    X-Gels has human data showing increases in strength and Forskolin has human data for body composition (increased LBM and reduced fat mass).
    This! Defeinetly this!
    X-Gels and AnaBeta Elite would make a killer stack, if you be able to jump in some Erase pro best stack ever!
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    Thx for all replies. I think I will see how I respond to the ABE first and then throw in some x-gels after a few weeks if needed. I'm still interested in the natadrol though, maybe run it after ABE, I found the natabolic stack for like 73$ so it's cheap enough to try
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    X-Gels + Forskolin is a great stack geared towards LBM gains.

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    My vote goes for Anabeta also. This product worked great for me and I got lots of performance increases in my workouts. It really helped me overall. I enjoyed it. What are you thinking of stacking it with?
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    X Gels + Anabeta Elite (already has forskolin in it) OR instead of anabeta elite, use Anabeta + Forskolin. I prefer this over Anabeta Elite, but just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    X Gels + Anabeta Elite (already has forskolin in it) OR instead of anabeta elite, use Anabeta + Forskolin. I prefer this over Anabeta Elite, but just my opinion.
    Thanks for the reply
    What's the Benifit of adding your own Forskolin? Just curious
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEXXX View Post
    Thanks for the reply
    What's the Benifit of adding your own Forskolin? Just curious
    I prefer it that way as well, purely because I don't like to lower cortisol levels to much UNLESS I am in a high stress environment (deep into a cut or nearing exam periods and working on very little sleep).
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    Just ordered ABE...going to take bolt10's advice and try it out independently since Its my first time with this type of supplement. Will run for a few weeks and if I like it will purchase another bottle for a full 8 week cycle. I am doing research on ArA and am really interested in trying it soon as well.

    Anything I should expect from the ABE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEXXX View Post
    Just ordered ABE...going to take bolt10's advice and try it out independently since Its my first time with this type of supplement. Will run for a few weeks and if I like it will purchase another bottle for a full 8 week cycle. I am doing research on ArA and am really interested in trying it soon as well.

    Anything I should expect from the ABE?
    Better get ready to order that second bottle .

    What are you hoping to get out of ABE?
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    Glad to hear you are taking my advice. Trust me when I say you don't need to throw a ton of things together to stack if the product is truly effective (like ABE and ArA IME).

    I don't want to bias your experience too much, but in general I feel ABE helps expediate the results of whatever approach you take with it (increased muscle retention and fat loss on a cut, optimal lean mass gains without as much fat gain in a bulk, etc). The muscle fullness and pumps are some of my favorite aspects too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEXXX View Post
    Just ordered ABE...going to take bolt10's advice and try it out independently since Its my first time with this type of supplement. Will run for a few weeks and if I like it will purchase another bottle for a full 8 week cycle. I am doing research on ArA and am really interested in trying it soon as well.

    Anything I should expect from the ABE?
    A great way to start out! See how this works for you (you'll definitely want to do the full 8 weeks) and consider also some X-gels once you see how your body responds to the ABE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post

    Better get ready to order that second bottle .

    What are you hoping to get out of ABE?
    I'm just really wanting something to give me alittle boost now that I've got my diet and routine locked down 100%. I'm also hoping I can eat more without staying bloated all the time, I've seen where people say this helps. Not expecting anything miraculous, but hoping I respond well
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEXXX View Post

    I'm just really wanting something to give me alittle boost now that I've got my diet and routine locked down 100%. I'm also hoping I can eat more without staying bloated all the time, I've seen where people say this helps. Not expecting anything miraculous, but hoping I respond well
    I think you'll really enjoy ABE. ABE always increases my hunger and has some GDA effects so that is always a plus.
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    If your looking to bulk don't forget to add in High Volume pre-workout! The pump/size effects it has stacked with Anabeta are nuts. I bet adding the X-gels in would make for a wicked stack.

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    Good choice looking into arachidonic acid (X-Factor), most will agree its the king of natural mass supplements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    Good choice looking into arachidonic acid (X-Factor), most will agree its the king of natural mass supplements.
    Much difference between X-factor and X-gels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEXXX View Post

    Much difference between X-factor and X-gels?
    No. Either option is a great choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEXXX View Post
    Much difference between X-factor and X-gels?
    X-Factor is the original arachidonic acid product.
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