The Anabolic Minds Supplement Roundtable
- 09-06-2013, 05:55 PM
The Anabolic Minds Supplement Roundtable
Fellow AM'ers I bring to you The Anabolic Minds Supplement Roundtable. A place where any ingredient can be tabled and discussed by some of the brightest minds the supplement industry has to offer. Have you ever questioned an ingredient, have you ever wondered the science behind it, if it worked for others, and if it has been decided to be effective? If so, this is the place for you.
ANYONE can table an ingredient (not company or product) at which point we will all discuss the ingredients in a conducive fashion. We will discuss it like King Arthur and his Knights discussed who's ass they were going to go kick!
This wasn't added to the science section because ALL thought is welcome and not everything needs to be scientific. Although, there will be a decent amount of scientific Anabolic Minds coming in to offer their help!
So let's get this party started! Table some ingredients I know quite a few gents who are eagerly awaiting to do what they do best and that is to help people make informed decisions within the realm of the supplement world!
I table Creatine (obvious much)! Let's get it going... science, anecdote, best ways to take, stability, synergistic ingredients, results... THE WHOLE GAMUT!!!!
Welcome to The Anabolic Minds Supplement Roundtable
- 09-06-2013, 06:54 PM
Awesome idea. I've had a creatine question for a while... Once mixed in water is it stable? Or do you have to drink it within a certain timeframe so it doesn't convert to creatinine?
- 09-06-2013, 07:11 PM
09-06-2013, 07:16 PM
Yes put the questions that burden your mind on our here Table, we shall dissect without discrimination!
"To your wife you should kiss try today"-Touey
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09-06-2013, 08:14 PM
Olympus labs super pct, don't cycle without it. It's the best IMO. Get some an you'll be glad you did Olympus labs rep
09-06-2013, 08:17 PM
09-06-2013, 08:25 PM
09-06-2013, 08:36 PM
09-06-2013, 08:39 PM
09-06-2013, 08:44 PM
and the advanced discussion?
09-06-2013, 08:50 PM
09-06-2013, 09:00 PM
Idea is to have a go to thread to ask direct help or scientific questions about a supp with or without science, so that the scientific minds (i.e @De__eB , @mr.cooper69 , @Synapsin ) could answer them if desired, or how about even better...people can go at it with science jargon on layman's terms for everyone here...without them being direct on the company/company product thread. So we leave advice on what the consumer already bought to them and create a mentality to STOP BASHING AND FLAMING, and we take the gloves off to pick the articles and the discussion, inflammatory, non-inflammatory, pot stirring, proofing or disproofing of concepts HERE.
Of course, you being a man of science, AND everyone else is welcome to simply go at it nitpicking every little thing that they want to.
>SNS-Glycophase<Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
09-06-2013, 09:06 PM
09-06-2013, 09:07 PM
09-06-2013, 09:22 PM
09-06-2013, 09:24 PM
There seems to be some excitement thus far!
Now that we all know what is expected and the theme let's get it started!
Great question on creatine! Keep them coming!
I personally think that everyone should take creatine not just for gym benefits. Check this out from a reliable site:
According to the International Society of Sports Nutrition, creatine (monohydrate) is the most effective ergogenic (performance-enhancing) nutritional supplement currently available to athletes for increasing high-intensity exercise capacity and lean body mass during training. A variety of forms are available and are discussed in the complete summary, but have not been shown to exert significant benefits over basic monohydrate supplementation.
Creatine's main action in the body is to store high-energy phosphate groups in the form of phosphocreatine. During periods of stress, phosphocreatine releases this energy to aid cellular function. This mechanism of action is what causes creatine to increase strength, but can benefit almost every body system, including the brain, bones, muscles, and liver. Most benefits of creatine occur through this energy mechanism.
Creatine is produced naturally in the body, and it is also found in foods (mostly meats, eggs, and fish; some in dairy).
Creatine has been shown to increase DHT (dihydrotestosterone) levels by 40% with a dosage of 5g per day. DHT is directly involved in hair loss in men, so long-term creatine usage could accelerate hair loss.
Creatine supplementation at normal dosages and with adequate hydration has been shown to have no harmful effects in any population tested (see its safety profile). The only observed side effects are stomach cramping if consumed with insufficient water, and diarrhea if too much is consumed at once. Controlled usage of creatine with adequate water may actually reduce cramping over the long term.
09-06-2013, 09:31 PM
Things to Note
Creatine has been reported (anecdotally) to have a subtle, but noticeable stimulatory effect on Cognition. Less potent than classical stimulants like Caffeine, these may be placebo.
Creatine is known for causing water-weight gains after starting use. Gaining 5lbs or so the day after beginning usage of a creatine-containing product is relatively common and completely harmless.
Caffeine may adversely interact with creatine's actions on muscle contraction, and should be controlled for before somebody judges how creatine works for them.
Some people report being "non-responders" to creatine supplementation. Although caffeine co-ingestion can explain some of this effect, there seems to be some literature suggesting that non-responders may exist independently of caffeine. The mechanism is not known.
There have been some anecdotal reports of restlessness when creatine is taken within an hour of sleep.
09-06-2013, 09:33 PM
There is now ongoing research about creatine being tested for Parkinson's and Alzheimer's prevention.
Also, it seems that creatine and shouldn't be co-ingested. Space your doses, not for gym benefits really but for the cognition side of things.
Time for anecdotal evidence creatine is the ****!
09-06-2013, 10:17 PM
09-06-2013, 10:20 PM
09-06-2013, 10:38 PM
Creatine appears to positively regulate the polyamine binding site of NMDA receptors, thereby increasing signalling through this receptor and the effects of agonists such as glutamate of D-Aspartic Acid. This is a potential mechanism for cognitive enhancement
Basically they counteract each other when taken together.
Does not go well with
Creatine and D-Aspartic Acid due to reducing signalling via the NMDA receptors
09-06-2013, 11:04 PM
Creatine's effect on DHT should be taken with a grain of salt. There have been conflicting studies on that characteristic
09-06-2013, 11:12 PM
09-06-2013, 11:43 PM
09-06-2013, 11:55 PM
09-07-2013, 12:15 AM
Give the thread a chance. Id like to think this can be used as a platform for layman's terms answers to people's questions that arent so much advanced but for which if they were to search the forums they wouldnt really find a clear concise answer.
Regarding creatine stability , creatine monohydrate is highly stable for extended periods of time in water
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09-07-2013, 01:16 AM
Synapsin. I've seen a few studies comparing it to metformin. Being in a large chunk of gda's would you mind giving a basic rundown so people can understand how awesome this ingredient is?
09-07-2013, 02:49 AM
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