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    Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    I had great results with AP.
    Got it with the protein deal. Liked it enough to grab another.
    Yo Ace! Lol a lot of People enjoy AP I've never used it to be honest or really looked into the ingredients.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdonisBelt View Post
    Something I have always wanted to learn more about are glucose disposal agents.... Are they worth the consideration?
    They seem to have their place. My best advice would be to check the formulas and search the actives. Berberine shows quite a bit of promise.

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    Bulk Berberine is the absolute most horribly awful tasting thing on this planet. I've heard that it was bad but figured I've thrown back some pretty bad tasting bulk supps. Boy was I wrong!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Bulk Berberine is the absolute most horribly awful tasting thing on this planet. I've heard that it was bad but figured I've thrown back some pretty bad tasting bulk supps. Boy was I wrong!!!
    Worse than cissus powder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Worse than cissus powder?
    Wayyyyy worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Wayyyyy worse.
    Yikes, and that's saying something. I capped mine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Yikes, and that's saying something. I capped mine
    Yep. I thought Cissus powder was bad but Berberine kicks Cissus ass in the bad tasting department. The taste stays in your mouth/throat forever!

    I need to badly. I've been parachuting it.
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    I've tried a few gda's with mixed results... AP is my fav for doing what it says. Pumps me up like crazy and seems to help move things along in the right places. Glycophase was ok for the pumps and such but was spectacular pre bed for deeper and more refreshing sleep. Also tried slintensity was eh all around. Nothing great to speak of there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post

    Wayyyyy worse.
    That's a bold statement
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoker145 View Post
    That's a bold statement
    Try it for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoker145 View Post
    That's a bold statement
    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Try it for yourself.
    And youtube it so we can all watch your face
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    Can confirm, bulk berberine tastes disgusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post

    Worse than cissus powder?
    Bulk berberine makes bulk Cissus seem like candy.

    If you can handle bulk berberine you can handle anything.

    Just make sure you don't go out in public before making sure your teeth aren't bright yellow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    I've tried a few gda's with mixed results... AP is my fav for doing what it says. Pumps me up like crazy and seems to help move things along in the right places. Glycophase was ok for the pumps and such but was spectacular pre bed for deeper and more refreshing sleep. Also tried slintensity was eh all around. Nothing great to speak of there.
    AP is great. I just started using Recompadrol and absolutely loving it. 1 cap per carb meals and 2 pre massive cheat meals. Its potent stuff so you really don't need much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    And youtube it so we can all watch your face
    Nope. My one time of putting bulk Berberine on a spoon and throwing it back is over haha.

    You could do it though .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    AP is great. I just started using Recompadrol and absolutely loving it. 1 cap per carb meals and 2 pre massive cheat meals. Its potent stuff so you really don't need much.
    Agreed. Recompadrol is awesome. Next run with it I'll be using Metabolic Powder also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post

    AP is great. I just started using Recompadrol and absolutely loving it. 1 cap per carb meals and 2 pre massive cheat meals. Its potent stuff so you really don't need much.
    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post

    Agreed. Recompadrol is awesome. Next run with it I'll be using Metabolic Powder also.
    I've heard a lot of good things about recompadrol but just haven't gotten around to trying it.... NP sale on it would be nice... Hell an EBF sale would be even better
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    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post

    I've heard a lot of good things about recompadrol but just haven't gotten around to trying it.... NP sale on it would be nice... Hell an EBF sale would be even better
    It was under 30 for a very long time. That sale is over if I get enough interest ill ask them to put one up again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Yo Ace! Lol a lot of People enjoy AP I've never used it to be honest or really looked into the ingredients.



    They seem to have their place. My best advice would be to check the formulas and search the actives. Berberine shows quite a bit of promise.
    The two ingredients in AP are used in glycophase
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    The two ingredients in AP are used in glycophase
    And Glycophase is half the price of AP

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    And Glycophase is half the price of AP
    He was saying he hasn't used them. I was saying he has. The ingredients go by different names, especially where GDAs are concerned
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    He was saying he hasn't used them. I was saying he has. The ingredients go by different names, especially where GDAs are concerned
    I think AP throws people off with naming it how they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    He was saying he hasn't used them. I was saying he has. The ingredients go by different names, especially where GDAs are concerned
    Yea I know but I thought I might as well plug Glyco

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    He was saying he hasn't used them. I was saying he has. The ingredients go by different names, especially where GDAs are concerned
    Well, they're dosed differently, different extracts, and combined with different ingredients so he hasn't really used AP
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    Boys boys play nice.


    Now, thoughts on PEA and similar enzymes and the lasting effects?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
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    Now, thoughts on PEA and similar enzymes and the lasting effects?
    Very meh and extremely overrated.
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    Thoughts on cissus quadrangularis
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELROCK View Post
    Thoughts on cissus quadrangularis
    Godsend for joints
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    Thoughts on cissus quadrangularis
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    Great for joints and also has some appetite suppression properties if taken fasted, I take it before breakfast typically as I lift in the afternoon and as an anti inflammatory it should be taken away from your workout
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    How much time away from a workout should you dose it? I like already having it in my system before a go to workout to help elevate some minor joint pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELROCK View Post
    How much time away from a workout should you dose it? I like already having it in my system before a go to workout to help elevate some minor joint pain.
    I was initially recommended 4 hours apart. Inflammation is needed for muscle growth.
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    Also, I know it is proven to have healing properties with bones and tendons, but is there any evidence of cissus having anabolic/androgenic properties?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    I was initially recommended 4 hours apart. Inflammation is needed for muscle growth.
    Thanks for the info
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    Great for joints and also has some appetite suppression properties if taken fasted, I take it before breakfast typically as I lift in the afternoon and as an anti inflammatory it should be taken away from your workout
    Does cissus have anabolic qualities, that you know of. I've heard that said, but do not know personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post

    Does cissus have anabolic qualities, that you know of. I've heard that said, but do not know personally.
    In bones
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post

    In bones
    Elaborate
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoker145 View Post

    Elaborate
    Possible production of osteoclasts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    Does cissus have anabolic qualities, that you know of. I've heard that said, but do not know personally.
    By allowing you to lift heavier, you could say it has anabolic qualities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post

    By allowing you to lift heavier, you could say it has anabolic qualities.
    I'd have to disagree. My knee wraps allow me to squat more.

    I think he is referring to it being wrongly included in sports supplements as being a direct anabolic. Due to the fact it shows properties of this in bones and has bone fracture studies to back it, some sports companies took that to be anabolic in bones = anabolic in muscle.
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