The Anabolic Minds Supplement Roundtable
- 09-08-2013, 11:54 PM
Your advanced creatine discussion has just blown my advanced discussion mind!Within your darkest memories lies the answer if you dare to find it. Don't let hope become a memory. When you think all is forsaken, listen to me now; you need never feel broken again. Sometimes darkness can show you the light.
- 09-08-2013, 11:58 PM
You can follow along here if you want to gather edits for your ingredients. You have a great site by the way, regardless of our disagreement here. Putting things in physiological context is the key.
- 09-09-2013, 12:44 AM
09-09-2013, 12:45 AM
09-09-2013, 01:32 AM
Almost off these pain killers and back to normal posting abilities lol
09-09-2013, 01:40 AM
09-09-2013, 02:03 AM
09-09-2013, 02:08 AM
Agmatine also has a CNS retention of at least 24 (more likely 50+) hours in primates so that would exclude creatine use at any point in the next 2-3 days...
09-09-2013, 02:41 AM
09-09-2013, 02:50 AM
09-09-2013, 03:18 AM
Alright guys we've tabled creatine, fadogia, berberine, and that stuff touey was talking about, which I admittedly have no clue WTF it is outside of Tribulus but to be honest in regards to anything involving Tribulus, no... Just no...
Any other opinions?
09-09-2013, 03:24 AM
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09-09-2013, 03:28 AM
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09-09-2013, 05:08 AM
From what I remember, it increases protein synthesis (obviously nothing compared to exogenous hormones) but every bit helps.
Most studies I used were around 12 Weeks in length, and most found an increase in lbm when compared to the placebo.
I don't remember anything about decreasing protein oxidation. I apologize if i'm incorrect.
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09-09-2013, 08:54 AM
Could we please discuss Ipamorelin have been on about two years is the only thing really to helping sleeping with no residual groggy feeling next day.
Have researched extensively still would welcome thought some may have HERE on safety, benefits, etc.
I know this is supplements but is only a peptide. Nevertheless if this is out of bounds for us to discuss on this thread please moderator will just post to me here I will start different table for it.
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09-09-2013, 09:26 AM
What's the verdict on Methyl Synephrine, bunk or effective..? I've heard conflicting sides to the argument, there are supporters of the ingredient while others say it's useless and doesn't compare to oxilofrine.
09-09-2013, 09:30 AM
phaggy opinions+certainty=douchebag status
09-09-2013, 09:34 AM
09-09-2013, 09:43 AM
09-09-2013, 09:47 AM
09-09-2013, 09:57 AM
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09-09-2013, 10:13 AM
09-09-2013, 10:27 AM
I used creatine mono on a regular basis for years. Although I am a non-responder as far as strength and size increases are concerned, I take it for better overall health. I have yet to read a negative scientific report on this product. I have also tried the buffered forms of creatine, the HCL versions as well as the effervesent forms, etc. These, at least for me, don't work any better than mono. My theory is that people who's diets are high in animal protien will not respond well to creatine in any form.
09-09-2013, 11:32 AM
I honestly see no reason why somebody shouldn't supplement creatine, nor do I see any logical basis for the seeming 'fear' of this compound in society.
It's safe, it's healthy, it's cheap, and for most people, it just works. Get some Creatine Monohydrate, take 5g a day, and you're good to go.
If humans didn't make any in the body, this thing would be a vitamin. There do exist deficiency symptoms that result in mental retardation. They're rare, but they pretty much establish the importance of this molecule as a vitamin-like compound.But - you are also correct. It was poor of us to put creatine/agmatine as does not go well with each other. A leap, and we will expand on the potential competition in the complete summaries.I would not worry too much about Agmatine and blood pressure. Although NOS inhibitors usually should increase blood pressure, agmatine does not last long in serum (10 minutes or less) and taking one dose at a separate time from your arginine or citrulline supplementation should not interfere with the benefits thereof.
Also, this thing is synergistic with everything illicit or pharmaceutical it seems (Bupropion, alcohol, marijuana, opioidergic drugs). Perhaps the most interesting thing to come from agmatine in the future is the drug-drug interactions.
Some oral pharmacokinetic studies in humans are sorely needed to help harmonize the in vitro studies to supplementation of agmatine.
Also thanks for all the kind words Feel free to PM me if I ever miss a thread you guys would like our input on.
09-09-2013, 12:26 PM
09-09-2013, 12:35 PM
I genuinely meant it when I say you have done well with the website. I'm sure it takes a lot of work to compile that much data, and many compounds I research end up turning up there in one way or an other.
09-09-2013, 03:12 PM
09-09-2013, 03:34 PM
Unless contraindicated by a medical condition
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