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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post

    Correction...1lb of broccoli is going to be one long day of deadly farts followed by 56 poops
    Broccoli n spinach doesn't hit me like that. I'm lucky. Brussels sprouts and too much cauli flower yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post

    Correction...1lb of broccoli is going to be one long day of deadly farts followed by 56 poops
    My thoughts exactly.
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    Veggies stick differently for different people. I eat around 3-4 cups daily (micronutrient purpose) and fruits as well (berries mostly) for fat burning and antioxident effects. Micronutrients are key in everyones diet and should be the #1 thing addressed IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Veggies stick differently for different people. I eat around 3-4 cups daily (micronutrient purpose) and fruits as well (berries mostly) for fat burning and antioxident effects. Micronutrients are key in everyones diet and should be the #1 thing addressed IMO
    I eat a cup of blueberries and blackberries everyday with my morning shake. As you stated good antioxidant effects.
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    I personally never count my greens. Apart from bloating, gas, poops, most of them ends up being negative calorie foods :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    I personally never count my greens. Apart from bloating, gas, poops, most of them ends up being negative calorie foods :P
    Calories are Calories. There is nothing negative about veggies, they are still digested and pass through your intestines
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    "but they are partially digested by the bacteria in your large intestine and reabsorbed as short chain fatty acids there... so yes they do have some caloric value."
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Calories are Calories. There is nothing negative about veggies, they are still digested and pass through your intestines
    layne norton on the subject:

    "but they are partially digested by the bacteria in your large intestine and reabsorbed as short chain fatty acids there... so yes they do have some caloric value."
    Doesn't broccoli and spinach end up being a net zero in the end or so little in caloric value that they end up having no impact? Those are basically the only two vegetables I consume... along with lettuce :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Doesn't broccoli and spinach end up being a net zero in the end or so little in caloric value that they end up having no impact? Those are basically the only two vegetables I consume... along with lettuce :P
    No.. They are not zero calories. where do you read this crap from?
    They dont put 0 calories on the package for no reason.
    Thats like saying he does my 100g of chicken breast come out to 90g beacuse i chew it and it digests in my body?

    Think about what your saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    No.. They are not zero calories. where do you read this crap from?
    They dont put 0 calories on the package for no reason.
    Thats like saying he does my 100g of chicken breast come out to 90g beacuse i chew it and it digests in my body?

    Think about what your saying.
    I think somewhere along the way he's read or heard something saying that these veggies use more or use about the same energy to process in the body as they contain. I've seen/heard that quite a few times on the internet. Usually it's followed by a shake or something being sold that fits into the pitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    No.. They are not zero calories. where do you read this crap from?
    They dont put 0 calories on the package for no reason.
    Thats like saying he does my 100g of chicken breast come out to 90g beacuse i chew it and it digests in my body?

    Think about what your saying.
    You're right on the broccoli. I've just looked that one up :P For the longest time I was under the impression that it was a negative calorie food or a net zero calorie food. Damn myths.

    But thermic effect of chicken is at 20-30%, so, there is that. There's just no actual foods which burns more calories than they provide apart from water :P

    Quote Originally Posted by houstontexas View Post
    I think somewhere along the way he's read or heard something saying that these veggies use more or use about the same energy to process in the body as they contain. I've seen/heard that quite a few times on the internet. Usually it's followed by a shake or something being sold that fits into the pitch.
    Yup, definitely what I heard. It wasn't until just a few moments ago I actually bothered to dig into this further :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    No.. They are not zero calories. where do you read this crap from? They dont put 0 calories on the package for no reason. Thats like saying he does my 100g of chicken breast come out to 90g beacuse i chew it and it digests in my body? Think about what your saying.
    Easy gentleman.....

    What I believe he is saying is some greens have very little impact bc of the high fiber content.

    In his defense, Most pros count them as zero, it's nothing to loose sleep over as long as you're not injecting large amounts. I take in about 4 cups of greens a day (it's all or nothing) I do not count them and my coach tells me to use them as I see fit.

    To each their own....I respect layne Norton and subscribe to a lot of his thinking but he is by no means the be all end, all in bodybuilding.

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    If you eat the same meals and same amount daily and do not count them then its a CONSISTENT FACTOR , someone who does not and has various amounts consumes different amounts daily. If you are going to track then counting the kcals may be wise

    Just stating the fact from the false statement. Seeing Broccoli and other greens do contain calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Easy gentleman.....

    What I believe he is saying is some greens have very little impact bc of the high fiber content.

    In his defense, Most pros count them as zero, it's nothing to loose sleep over as long as you're not injecting large amounts. I take in about 4 cups of greens a day (it's all or nothing) I do not count them and my coach tells me to use them as I see fit.

    To each their own....I respect layne Norton and subscribe to a lot of his thinking but he is by no means the be all end, all in bodybuilding.

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    Yeah, that's what I've heard from most places, that most vegetables it's ok to not count their calories and just eat as much as necessary for the micronutrients.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    If you eat the same meals and same amount daily and do not count them then its a CONSISTENT FACTOR , someone who does not and has various amounts consumes different amounts daily. If you are going to track then counting the kcals may be wise

    Just stating the fact from the false statement. Seeing Broccoli and other greens do contain calories.
    Hey, it's good that you pointed it out. That's another myth that you've helped me dispel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Easy gentleman.....

    What I believe he is saying is some greens have very little impact bc of the high fiber content.

    In his defense, Most pros count them as zero, it's nothing to loose sleep over as long as you're not injecting large amounts. I take in about 4 cups of greens a day (it's all or nothing) I do not count them and my coach tells me to use them as I see fit.

    To each their own....I respect layne Norton and subscribe to a lot of his thinking but he is by no means the be all end, all in bodybuilding.

    Rant/
    I've definitely seen quite a few diet setups which allow an individual to eat as much green veggies as they want without worrying about counting them towards any criteria whether that be carbs, calories, or both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    If you eat the same meals and same amount daily and do not count them then its a CONSISTENT FACTOR , someone who does not and has various amounts consumes different amounts daily. If you are going to track then counting the kcals may be wise

    Just stating the fact from the false statement. Seeing Broccoli and other greens do contain calories.
    Yes they do contain calories and digested to short chain fats to be used for energy

    I allow up to 200 calories from greens hence 22-2300 cals a day. If I eat greens I get about 24-2500 if not I'm at my 2300

    I try and eat them every day to aid with hunger

    Here's today so far

    Ps. The cream of rice. I used stevia cinnamon and pumpkin spice in the water and added the almond butter to it. It was awesom

    I have about 1000 cals left to eat.

    Probably keep the carbs where they are and hit protein and fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by houstontexas View Post

    I've definitely seen quite a few diet setups which allow an individual to eat as much green veggies as they want without worrying about counting them towards any criteria whether that be carbs, calories, or both.
    This all depends on the coach mainly BC the diets are low calorie to begin with and it's used as filler to keep you full and most people don't eat 2-3 lbs of greens
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    Macros and food today so far


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    Dang looking lean man. That side waist view makes your upper look huge vs the waist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Dang looking lean man. That side waist view makes your upper look huge vs the waist.
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    Hams gluts obliques today


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    That was the workout.

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    Macros. Just about 2200 cals.


    I ran out of food so this is where it'll stay today

    Oh, peanut butter problems today

    Wanted to make sure I got all pb off tablespoon

    While doing so I sliced part of my lip open obviously trying too hard to get those macros in

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    Wow dude that's pretty crazy cutting yourself on a tablespoon lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by houstontexas View Post
    Wow dude that's pretty crazy cutting yourself on a tablespoon lol.
    I wanted the last amount of pb I've been hungry lately BC I started hiit like 2 days ago. Lol
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    Food and macros today so far

    Need to figure out what to do for dinner I need a lean protein and 7-8 oz of it
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    Just bought 18 cans of pumpkin

    3 cans pumpkin butter

    I'm stoked to make a sunflower seed butter and pumpkin butter sandwich!

    I gotta see where my cals end up BC I have to eat 2 burgers which come out to like 9g fat and 50 protein. My protein may be a tad under 200 which I'm not comfortable with but will be worth it. If I can fit in room ill add a shake
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    Yeaaaaaaa buddy. Made it fit my macros! I'm awesome. This is the best month ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Yeaaaaaaa buddy. Made it fit my macros! I'm awesome. This is the best month ever
    I wish I could get my 8yo daughter to like pumpkin butter. She takes after me and her favorite thing in world is Peanut Butter. She was a reeses freak! We recently learned she has a Peanut allergy, and it broke her heart. She cries from time to time when she learns of new things she can't have.

    She eats Sun butter from time to time, but not the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    I wish I could get my 8yo daughter to like pumpkin butter. She takes after me and her favorite thing in world is Peanut Butter. She was a reeses freak! We recently learned she has a Peanut allergy, and it broke her heart. She cries from time to time when she learns of new things she can't have.

    She eats Sun butter from time to time, but not the same.
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    Sun Butter is an acquired taste, same with Almond Butter.

    me..

    Cookie butter FTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Sun Butter is an acquired taste, same with Almond Butter.

    me..

    Cookie butter FTW
    Got that in the fridge too my man.

    Don't remember if it's lactose and gluten free tho

    I try and keep it tht way. My stomach feels better that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post

    I wish I could get my 8yo daughter to like pumpkin butter. She takes after me and her favorite thing in world is Peanut Butter. She was a reeses freak! We recently learned she has a Peanut allergy, and it broke her heart. She cries from time to time when she learns of new things she can't have.

    She eats Sun butter from time to time, but not the same.
    Ahh man sorry to hear that you can always try other nut butters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danb2285 View Post
    Lookin lean and mean bro
    Crazy thing is, I looked better today

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Seriously awesome workout

    Pre workout was

    1/3 packet nano vapor with 2 scoops alphamine and 5g gms then 1 scoop enhanced with 1/4 teaspoon salt

    Wow. Wow wow.

    After I blasted arms and shoulders I went for a 22 min jog. **** was cake!!!

    Probably BC I had a cardio buddy. Makes it easier and less boring. Jogged at a 5.8 pace so I can talk lol
    Interesting combo in preworkout.
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    In waaaayyy late but after an evening if reading I'm all caught up ha. Great work here so far! In for some noodz to come
    It's BULKING season: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/254139-swol-boones-quest.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post

    Interesting combo in preworkout.
    I have a sicker one I told Distilled water about hope I can bring this intra/pre to market one day
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