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    Abyss Unparalleled isn't physiologically habit-forming. REM 8.0 is (phenibut), but the intensity of habit formation is dose-dependent
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Relora and sensoril are pretty innovative...
    Haha you beat me to it before I got to the end of the thread. Abyss is possibly one of the best sleep aids I've seen out right now profile wise. I'm about to get me a few bottles here soon myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post

    I'm pretty sure none of the products mentioned should be used indefinitely. BUT, could help to get into the habit and pattern your sleeping better and just take standard breaks, or switch up ingredients.

    I'm using lights out and Relora right now. Pretty solid. Zzz zzquil for emergencies.

    My only thing is I try to avoid Valarian if possible. If I stay up past like a half hour it has a reverse effect and keeps me up. If that doesn't happen to you AI sports has 3Z nicely priced.
    I took a sample of 3Z last night and I woke up at least 8 times. Close to once an hour, yet had no issues falling back asleep and don't feel groggy today. It was strange. I never wake up that much during the night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soul0wner View Post

    I took a sample of 3Z last night and I woke up at least 8 times. Close to once an hour, yet had no issues falling back asleep and don't feel groggy today. It was strange. I never wake up that much during the night.
    Yea man, I think it is the valerian. Weird stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post

    Yea man, I think it is the valerian. Weird stuff.
    Weird fit sure. I'm taking an hgh pro sample tonight and resurrect pm tomorrow night, as I'm off on Thursday, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soul0wner View Post
    Weird fit sure. I'm taking an hgh pro sample tonight and resurrect pm tomorrow night, as I'm off on Thursday, haha.
    I do love me some Resurrect PM. You don't want to use it all the time though, I found that after awhile, the product doesn't feel as potent if you don't take a few breaks from it here and there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    I do love me some Resurrect PM. You don't want to use it all the time though, I found that after awhile, the product doesn't feel as potent if you don't take a few breaks from it here and there.
    Yeah, finaflex G8 is like that too. Use it a few nights a week. That's what my plan is with REM 8.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by soul0wner View Post
    Yeah, finaflex G8 is like that too. Use it a few nights a week. That's what my plan is with REM 8.0
    Same here. Definitely going to try the REM on my shelf @ half a serving first. Looks potent. Ha ha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AppNutJeff View Post
    This ^^^
    Don't read any farther, Nimbus knocked it out of the park with Abyss. it's the best sleep aid I have ever used.
    Can anyone tell me whether there is a European distrubutor/vendor of Abyss Unparalleled?
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    Just seen abyss at the shop here. Gonna have to check it out down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    Just seen abyss at the shop here. Gonna have to check it out down the road.
    I jumped on it for another 2 bottles since it's $19 and change right now. What a great deal and you get a full 30 days per bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    I jumped on it for another 2 bottles since it's $19 and change right now. What a great deal and you get a full 30 days per bottle.
    That is a sweet deal. Perfect timing for this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    That is a sweet deal. Perfect timing for this thread.
    Lulz, werd. I won't get to use these bottles for another 2 months though. Have another brand new tub of Resurrect PM to get through but I have a brand new tub of REM 8.0 to get through first. Was thinking about using Abyss in between those two products but I think this run of Abyss I will run back to back and see how the accumulative effects of two bottles back to back works out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Abyss Unparalleled isn't physiologically habit-forming. REM 8.0 is (phenibut), but the intensity of habit formation is dose-dependent
    Just like with everything else gotta use responsibly
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    well here in Cali it's 945pm i took rem 8.0 at 8:20pm and im still wide awake!! this Effn sucks!!! i haven't had any caffeine other than a cranberry red bull at 4:00 could that have anything to do with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fame126 View Post
    well here in Cali it's 945pm i took rem 8.0 at 8:20pm and im still wide awake!! this Effn sucks!!! i haven't had any caffeine other than a cranberry red bull at 4:00 could that have anything to do with it?
    Caffeine can effect you for 6-8 hours plus red bull has other stuff to it.
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    I am not even trying to be funny...Sex (masterbation if your lonely and havent found your swolemate) is great for sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    I am not even trying to be funny...Sex (masterbation if your lonely and havent found your swolemate) is great for sleep.
    That usually will keep me awake for a bit. LoL. Especially if I'm going for seconds and thirds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    I am not even trying to be funny...Sex (masterbation if your lonely and havent found your swolemate) is great for sleep.
    i know im not the only one who rubs one out every now and then lol and am married and get it one or twice a week. it works, sometimes, not all the time.
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    Ended up getting Nimbus Abyss because they didn't have REM in stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soul0wner View Post
    Ended up getting Nimbus Abyss because they didn't have REM in stock.
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    ZMA from cellucor works pretty well... has 1mg of melatonin in it i bieleve and valerian root. could try those puppies out its around 30 dollars last time i checked!
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    Looks like Sleephoria is right around the corner, that's where I'm heading!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeerdre View Post
    ZMA from cellucor works pretty well... has 1mg of melatonin in it i bieleve and valerian root. could try those puppies out its around 30 dollars last time i checked!
    1mg of melatonin and the amount of GABA it had wasn't really enough for me to be put to sleep by it but it did give me solid sleep once I was sleeping. Not a bad product at all, just don't expect it to put you to sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    Yeah budday!
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    I tried a sample of resurrect pm last night and I didn't really sleep that much after it. Maybe about 3 hours, weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soul0wner View Post
    I tried a sample of resurrect pm last night and I didn't really sleep that much after it. Maybe about 3 hours, weird.
    Tolerance maybe? Have you been using other sleep aids before it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    Tolerance maybe? Have you been using other sleep aids before it?
    Definitely not tolerance. I haven't used anything in awhile. Last I had was massHGH maybe like 8 months ago. I tried 3 different samples the last 3 nights because I had them laying around.
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    Little update on my lights out experience(w/Relora)
    -doesn't necessarily help me fall asleep
    -I dream more once asleep...well I feel like I do(deeper sleep)
    -it takes me a little longer to get out of bed
    -nothing as far as recovery on anything like that so far

    Does l-dopa make any of you guys groggy in the AM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by soul0wner View Post
    Definitely not tolerance. I haven't used anything in awhile. Last I had was massHGH maybe like 8 months ago. I tried 3 different samples the last 3 nights because I had them laying around.
    Interesting. We need some science bros up in here to maybe give some clues to this. Maybe you're just naturally tolerant to the ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    Little update on my lights out experience(w/Relora)
    -doesn't necessarily help me fall asleep
    -I dream more once asleep...well I feel like I do(deeper sleep)
    -it takes me a little longer to get out of bed
    -nothing as far as recovery on anything like that so far

    Does l-dopa make any of you guys groggy in the AM?
    Depends on the dose and my tolerance. If it's a high enough dose, I would wake up groggy in the morning or hungover. After awhile, that effect would subside for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    Little update on my lights out experience(w/Relora)
    -doesn't necessarily help me fall asleep
    -I dream more once asleep...well I feel like I do(deeper sleep)
    -it takes me a little longer to get out of bed
    -nothing as far as recovery on anything like that so far

    Does l-dopa make any of you guys groggy in the AM?
    Every sleep aid i have ever tried has made me groggy in the morning most mornings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    Little update on my lights out experience(w/Relora)
    -doesn't necessarily help me fall asleep
    -I dream more once asleep...well I feel like I do(deeper sleep)
    -it takes me a little longer to get out of bed
    -nothing as far as recovery on anything like that so far

    Does l-dopa make any of you guys groggy in the AM?
    MassHGH did this to me when I first started it, and then it seemed to get better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Every sleep aid i have ever tried has made me groggy in the morning most mornings.
    Hi,

    I was wondering what sleep aids you have tried in the past?

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    Been using REM 8.0 for awhile now. I must say, it's a good product though be wary, you can easily end up with a phenibut hangover the next day. Use caution with this stuff people.

    Going to jump back on Abyss after I finish the REM 8.0 though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Been using REM 8.0 for awhile now. I must say, it's a good product though be wary, you can easily end up with a phenibut hangover the next day. Use caution with this stuff people.

    Going to jump back on Abyss after I finish the REM 8.0 though.
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    I tend to stay away from phenibut and any products with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    Any time you use a phenibut product don't use it more than 5 days in a row. That will help too
    I've actually only been using it about 4 times out of the week actually. Lulz. Tried the 2 servings a few times, it was a very light headed morning every time. I've been using a little less than a full scoop actually. Stuff is very effective at knocking me out I must say.
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