Coop's Corner #4: Alpha-2 Antagonism? Yes Please.
- 08-29-2013, 11:23 PM
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08-29-2013, 11:47 PM
Awesome write up man.
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08-30-2013, 12:38 AM
08-30-2013, 12:45 AM
The FDA issued warning letters about the combination. Sorry mods for the other forum link, but this thread was actually informative
08-30-2013, 12:54 AM
Coop, the series of threads you have been writing up have been great. I appreciate the time you put into these.
08-30-2013, 12:56 AM
Hate the dosing protocol of Y, or I would use it more often :/
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08-30-2013, 01:15 AM
The street term for this effect is called "cheesing". No...not the same cheesing from South Park
It received the name because cheese is high in tyramine. So if you are getting bad reactions to yohimbine/alpha-2 antagonists and there is a lot of cheese in your diet that day, you may have found your problem.
08-30-2013, 09:47 AM
I recently tried a few fat burners from various companies, including Alphamine. All had some kind of yohimbine or rauwolscine in them. I got headaches from all of them, and generally felt awful while they were in my system. My heart rate didn't go way up or anything, but it made me *feel* hypertensive. The only one that didn't make me feel like that was Red Acid Reborn, but it still gave me enough of a headache that I wouldn't want to deal with the effects daily, or hit the gym while I was taking it.
I know that caffeine isn't the problem because I drink a good amount of coffee daily, and I can take (yohimbine-free) PWOs without any issue. Is this a normal response to the dosages of yohimbine common in these kinds of products?
Oh, and kudos to you guys and other companies willing to send out samples of these kinds of products so we can figure out if they work for our bodies before we buy them. I know now that I won't be buying any Alphamine in the future (unless the UK version starts selling for the same price as the US version on NP), but I did get three bottles of Forskolin 95 in the mail yesterday. ;-)
08-30-2013, 09:49 AM
08-30-2013, 10:05 AM
Awesome info coop, I have been looking into yohimbine HCL for a while now and finally pulled the trigger to get some in combination with Forskolin.
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08-30-2013, 10:36 AM
08-30-2013, 02:01 PM
08-30-2013, 04:33 PM
08-30-2013, 04:35 PM
Guess I'll save the Focus xt until I finish the Oep Powder and enhanced. Or vice/versa.
08-30-2013, 05:23 PM
08-31-2013, 03:20 PM
It sounds like you just generally have a very low tolerance to a2-antagonists. Like said in this thread, check to see what else you are supplementing with. Anything with tyrosine or tyramine? Are you eating a lot of cheese?
08-31-2013, 04:42 PM
so what alpha-2 antagonists are you guys using?
where from and how much, im interested!!
currently my only source of yohimbine is from oxyelite powder and AAv2
if im really good at tolerating yohimbine, would waxing the dosage increase effectiveness? maybe not effectiveness but would it result in more fat cells lost or shrink or whatever it is that happens that make you look leaner.
08-31-2013, 08:26 PM
08-31-2013, 08:48 PM
Sorry if this seems like its off topic, and if I'm still very new to AM. Trying to learn as much as possible.
Hey coop and anyone else with input, I take a "wakefulness aid" called modafinil to keep me awake most days, its hard staying awake while working 40-50 hrs a week and taking 15 credit hours in college. Yesterday I took my Modafinil and an hour later mixed a scoop of OEP powder(which has Yohimbine in it.). I only drank half of what I mixed, then my energy was out of control. I rode my bike 20 miles in record time. this made me very curious. I was reading up on modafinil and it said: "Modafinil has central alpha 1-adrenergic agonist effects i.e. it directly stimulates the receptors." http://modafinil.com/ 3rd paragraph down. My question is, is it synergistic? or the opposite? would it be is it safe to mix the two?! not asking for medical advice or trying to have you guys answer as a medical professional, just trying to learn if mixing an alpha 1-adrenergic agonist with an alpha-2 antagonist would have an effect on each other. Just here to learn. Thanks -Luke
08-31-2013, 09:11 PM
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09-01-2013, 12:02 AM
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09-01-2013, 12:04 AM
09-01-2013, 12:39 AM
09-01-2013, 07:50 AM
09-01-2013, 10:48 AM
09-01-2013, 12:39 PM
So after using enhanced since the day it came out for 2-3 days a week, you think I should try alphamine again?. Alphamine always made me jittery/nervous, even at .25 dosage.
09-02-2013, 12:37 AM
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