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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    How should forskolin be cycled? I've been using 100mg analyzed Supplements Forskolin 95 a day with OG Anabeta for July and August. Can I continue to run it or should I give it s month break and then get back on it?

    I've asked Cooper this question and he told me 12 weeks and then cycle off for a month. Cooper, is that correct?
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    Clemenza, what have you noticed running it at that dosage?. Did you start at 100mg?
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    A Coop thread? Sub'd for sum learninnn
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    This is a great thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I've asked Cooper this question and he told me 12 weeks and then cycle off for a month. Cooper, is that correct?
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    1) I understand the utility of diminishing returns but Is there any value using the "more is better" principle with a product like Forskolin?
    I tend to need more than the average Joe for many products.

    2) PES T2: What is the ingredient that is a beta-2 agonist?

    3) Wouldnt adding an α-1 antagonists (Rauwolscine/isoyohimbine/α-yohimbine) make this even SICKER

    4) Would un-sexy old-school green tea supps add another punch to this (synergyistically) due to it's COMT inhibition (via catechins) thus allowing for epinephine to be more active? This lending itsefl to more fa- burning (more pronouced effects of the other items mentioned)? I've never seen green tea do jack on it's own but perhaps this is where it can shine?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Here's the basic rundown:

    B-Agonists you can use: ECA stack, Alphamine, Alpha-T2

    A activates B. B activates C. C activates D. D activates fat burning.

    A B-agonist increases levels of A. More A means more B. More B means more C.

    Forskolin further increases levels of C. So you have way, way more C, which activates D. D activates way, way more fat burning.
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    Whacked, The new Alpha T2 has higenamine in it, I believe.
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    Good call bro
    beta-1 and beta-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    1) I understand the utility of diminishing returns but Is there any value using the "more is better" principle with a product like Forskolin?
    I tend to need more than the average Joe for many products.

    2) PES T2: What is the ingredient that is a beta-2 agonist?

    3) Wouldnt adding an α-1 antagonists (Rauwolscine/isoyohimbine/α-yohimbine) make this even SICKER

    4) Would un-sexy old-school green tea supps add another punch to this (synergyistically) due to it's COMT inhibition (via catechins) thus allowing for epinephine to be more active? This lending itsefl to more fa- burning (more pronouced effects of the other items mentioned)? I've never seen green tea do jack on it's own but perhaps this is where it can shine?
    1. Yeah, I use about 100mg myself.

    2. higenamine

    3. Those are alpha 2 antagonists, and yes, they further synergize (hence the alphamine/T2 recommendations)

    4. Green Tea does not physiologically inhibit COMT. You'd need several grams...like 5g EGCG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Clemenza, what have you noticed running it at that dosage?. Did you start at 100mg?
    Hard to tell. I've always taken it with Anabeta and this recent cycle I stacked with Erase Pro and DAA. But I can say whenever I take it I notice significant reduction in body fat and even endurance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post

    Hard to tell. I've always taken it with Anabeta and this recent cycle I stacked with Erase Pro and DAA. But I can say whenever I take it I notice significant reduction in body fat and even endurance.
    I start 75 mg tomorrow

    Side note question. Methyl syn. Structurally related to ephedrine correct? Ephedrine may show up as amphetamine on urine drug tests, would syn do the same. ?
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    I'm starting a stack tomorrow. Wanted to go up to 200mg. Coop says I shouldn't go over 150. Coop, is what is the reason to not go over 150?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    I start 75 mg tomorrow

    Side note question. Methyl syn. Structurally related to ephedrine correct? Ephedrine may show up as amphetamine on urine drug tests, would syn do the same. ?
    Yes I believe it's actually hydroxy-ephedrine. Whether it would show up as an amphetamine I cannot confirm although I would not risk it.

    I get a very similar feeling with methyl syn as I do with ephedrine's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post

    Yes I believe it's actually hydroxy-ephedrine. Whether it would show up as an amphetamine I cannot confirm although I would not risk it.

    I get a very similar feeling with methyl syn as I do with ephedrine's.
    How long before test should I stop dosing
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I'm starting a stack tomorrow. Wanted to go up to 200mg. Coop says I shouldn't go over 150. Coop, is what is the reason to not go over 150?
    Diminishing returns
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Diminishing returns

    Thanks again Coop!. That's good info to know.
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    Can anyone verify the forskolin 95 for potency...just saying I once got a quote of pure forslean and it was very expensive. I just don't know how it could be that cheap unless its not really what the say it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post
    Can anyone verify the forskolin 95 for potency...just saying I once got a quote of pure forslean and it was very expensive. I just don't know how it could be that cheap unless its not really what the say it is.
    There's a nice big ole Forslean logo on bottle and the label is clearly labeled. Plus it's essentially put out by PES which to this day has not skimped on anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    put out by PES which to this day has not skimped on anything.
    But till this day they have skimped many people body fats with the Alphamine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    But till this day they have skimped many people body fats with the Alphamine
    Nah, that's just a byproduct of the quality of their line of products You pay for the efficacy, the positive body comp changes are just value adds :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    Plus it's essentially put out by PES which to this day has not skimped on anything.
    100% agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Here's the basic rundown:

    A activates B. B activates C. C activates D. D activates fat burning.

    A B-agonist increases levels of A. More A means more B. More B means more C.

    Forskolin further increases levels of C. So you have way, way more C, which activates D. D activates way, way more fat burning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    Awesome breakdown Cy
    After reading it twice.. makes perfect sense.
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    Where would forskolin fit in on a prohormone cycle? During or after?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mission1 View Post
    Where would forskolin fit in on a prohormone cycle? During or after?
    Both. It mediates LBM gain in a testosterone-independent fashion, and it helps to restore testicular function via increases in cAMP during PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Both. It mediates LBM gain in a testosterone-independent fashion, and it helps to restore testicular function via increases in cAMP during PCT.
    Thanks Coop.
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    Awesome info .. thanks Coop

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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    There's a nice big ole Forslean logo on bottle and the label is clearly labeled. Plus it's essentially put out by PES which to this day has not skimped on anything.
    Correct. We use ForsLean brand 95% forskolin. Straight from the patent holders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Waiting to stack it with versa1 n compound 20 at double dose. So we will see.
    8 pills of c20 a day? + forskohlli
    kinda expensive but did u give it a try? was it effective?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bananaClip View Post

    8 pills of c20 a day? + forskohlli
    kinda expensive but did u give it a try? was it effective?
    I start soon. Stopped all b agonist for a drug test today. Starting up again monday
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post

    Correct. We use ForsLean brand 95% forskolin. Straight from the patent holders.
    Is that Sabinsa corp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mission1 View Post
    Is that Sabinsa corp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mission1 View Post
    Is that Sabinsa corp?
    Forskolin is one particular ingredient where I wouldn't stray from licensed extracts
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Forskolin is one particular ingredient where I wouldn't stray from licensed extracts
    I agree. I was reading up on the company.
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