Supps for PCT

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  1. Supps for PCT


    Starting my post and was for looking to get a few extra supps. Any ideas??

    Was getting
    More protein
    Test booster
    Creatine


  2. Pct for what and what do you have?
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  3. What did you just finish? It depends on what your finishing before we suggest a PcT. There are lots of options. What products did you use?

  4. Usually people go SERM, test booster, cortisol control supp.

    Ex.
    Nolva
    20/20/10/10
    DAA
    3g/3g/3g/3g/3g
    Reduce XT
    0/0/3/3/3/3
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    Usually people go SERM, test booster, cortisol control supp.

    Ex.
    Nolva
    20/20/10/10
    DAA
    3g/3g/3g/3g/3g
    Reduce XT
    0/0/3/3/3/3
    How about some CEL PCT assist??
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    How about some CEL PCT assist??
    Has this shown to be beneficial?

  7. You should do a full pct regardless of what compound you're using. You're putting and exogenous hormone in your body an it doesn't matter how mild it is because it is still suppressing your natural production.

    A full pct should consist of the following:
    - serm (clomid or torem)
    - mild ai (formestane or arimistane)
    - test booster with avenacosoides (to raise free test)
    - test booster for libido support/ test boosting
    - d-aspartic acid

  8. Definitely go with what was mentioned, you will need a very strong PCT if you ran a strong compound and it had significant shutdown. In addition to those things that are generally required of a PCT a good option is also natty test boosters, cortisol control, and general health supplements to help get you back up to speed.

    iForce has several products that could help with what you are looking for in conjunction with a proper PCT protocol. Testabolan V2, Reversitol V2, Intimidate SRT, and Tropinol XP would all be good options. Also a good Athletic Multi, Fish Oil, etc.

    These are of course in addition to the things that people are "expected" to run for a proper PCT (SERMs) and not to be used solely for PCT.

  9. These could be part of a PCT

    DAA-
    D-Pol
    Test Powder

    AI-
    Nolvadren XT
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  10. It really depends on what you were running and how strong it was.

    possibly a SERM or AI


    in addition, check out some products from iForce

    Athletic Multi V
    Fish Oil
    Testabolan V2

  11. There are always some things you can take that will help you regardless. For instance you should check out Testabolan V2, Reversitol V2, Tropinol XP, and Intimidate SRT. These would be a good starting point IMO.
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  12. I ran:
    Tomaxifen
    Recourse
    AE
    EP
    Ostarine

    Next ill run:
    Tomaxifen
    Daa
    Nolvadren-xt
    Pr-xt
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  13. He never posted again and answered the question therefore he gets no suggestions from me

  14. I was taking andropen 275 , tren, and mast 15week total cycle

    I currently have some hcg on hand

    Started taking my clomid and nolva yesterday

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Guido1983 View Post
    I was taking andropen 275 , tren, and mast 15week total cycle

    I currently have some hcg on hand

    Started taking my clomid and nolva yesterday
    I would of ran hcg into pct after tren and not ran nolva but that's just me

  16. DAA should always be in your PCT. it's a staple product for that. It's always good to use. Make sure you stack it with the right things to make it the most effective.

  17. Endosurge Turbo.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    Usually people go SERM, test booster, cortisol control supp.

    Ex.
    Nolva
    20/20/10/10
    DAA
    3g/3g/3g/3g/3g
    Reduce XT
    0/0/3/3/3/3
    That's mine as well. Would probably throw some xgels in there too
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  19. Start cortisol control(Reduce XT) week 1 of pct at 3 caps a day.

  20. Never run hcG into PCT. That is mistake number 1. HcG mimics LH and thus causes shutdown of LH.

    HcG on cycle to keep testes 'plump' while shutdown but come off in pct.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Never run hcG into PCT. That is mistake number 1. HcG mimics LH and thus causes shutdown of LH.

    HcG on cycle to keep testes 'plump' while shutdown but come off in pct.
    This is the new thing apparently but hcg on cycle is counterproductive

    You have one substance telling your nuts to work and one shutting them down?

    So it makes no sense to un both at once

    Many older users run hcg in pct which I wouldn't do and not what I was suggesting

    I was suggesting running it after last injection and before pct for a kickstart I said into pct not "in" pct

  22. Clomid for the testes, tropinol xp + intimidate srt for also test boosting and body recomposition to stay lean, and Xgels for my non-hormonal mass builder to simulate like I am still on cycle.. one of the best pct's ive had in a long time. Felt like I was still on cycle, recovery was a breeze and even grew some.

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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post
    This is the new thing apparently but hcg on cycle is counterproductive

    You have one substance telling your nuts to work and one shutting them down?

    So it makes no sense to un both at once

    Many older users run hcg in pct which I wouldn't do and not what I was suggesting

    I was suggesting running it after last injection and before pct for a kickstart I said into pct not "in" pct
    Its not counter productive, its just providing the body with a compound which mimics that of a shutdown one thus 'tricking' the body into thinking it still has LH in the system.

    In a basic sense, if you are using test on cycle then the body will stop production of LH (thus stopping production of test in the testes); hCG is then used to restore testicular size and function on cycle but because hCG is suppressive, you wouldn't use it into PCT as it would just continue the shutdown of LH.

    So people who are "on" for many years straight (5+ years) would use hCG as they would have zero LH production during that time but this allows them to have normal testicular size.

    The advantage is that after a cycle including HCG, you only have to wait for the hypothalamus and the pituitary to recover. After a cycle without HCG, you wait for the hypothalamus, then the pituitary, then the testes. And that takes longer.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post

    Its not counter productive, its just providing the body with a compound which mimics that of a shutdown one thus 'tricking' the body into thinking it still has LH in the system.

    In a basic sense, if you are using test on cycle then the body will stop production of LH (thus stopping production of test in the testes); hCG is then used to restore testicular size and function on cycle but because hCG is suppressive, you wouldn't use it into PCT as it would just continue the shutdown of LH.

    So people who are "on" for many years straight (5+ years) would use hCG as they would have zero LH production during that time but this allows them to have normal testicular size.

    The advantage is that after a cycle including HCG, you only have to wait for the hypothalamus and the pituitary to recover. After a cycle without HCG, you wait for the hypothalamus, then the pituitary, then the testes. And that takes longer.
    Well I see your point but I just feel running test and hcg is isn't really doing much because you have one compound telling your testes to work and one shutting them down to.therefore it seems that your body would be up and down
    Constantly. You continue the protocol which is the new way to do it. Do you know where that protocol came from?

    And I'm not trying to come across like an a$$ but I know it's hard to tell on here

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post

    Well I see your point but I just feel running test and hcg is isn't really doing much because you have one compound telling your testes to work and one shutting them down to.therefore it seems that your body would be up and down
    Constantly. You continue the protocol which is the new way to do it. Do you know where that protocol came from?

    And I'm not trying to come across like an a$$ but I know it's hard to tell on here
    I'm pretty sure the logic behind it is you want your body thinking it is still producing its own test that way the transition into pct is much easier on your system as a whole. Plus some people don't like their balls shriveling up so that's another reason behind it.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by infraredline View Post

    I'm pretty sure the logic behind it is you want your body thinking it is still producing its own test that way the transition into pct is much easier on your system as a whole. Plus some people don't like their balls shriveling up so that's another reason behind it.
    I know the supposed logic behind it but I don't feel it's possible for one hormone to shut you down and another to say your not shut down. The test wins the battle and you waste hcg instead of just blasting it after your test before pct which is effective IMO to each his own each person will have there opinion or they will go off someone else's opinion from an Internet protocol

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post

    I know the supposed logic behind it but I don't feel it's possible for one hormone to shut you down and another to say your not shut down. The test wins the battle and you waste hcg instead of just blasting it after your test before pct which is effective IMO to each his own each person will have there opinion or they will go off someone else's opinion from an Internet protocol
    I agree with you that blasting it prior to pct is the best approach.

  28. Anybody use iso-stak? By universial

  29. Nolva. DAA. Anabeta Elite. ArA. Erase starting week 3.

  30. Forskolin would be good too imho
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