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  1. And admin, don't change the rules! There's a reason we love AM. Would you rather see every free thinker banned like in the "other place?"


  2. Quote Originally Posted by macdady View Post
    I still think they hired someone from cell tech to market this lol
    I can confirm they haven't.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I suppose ill play nicer in the future. Lets not forget though, that some of the post productive discussions have come out of healthy skepticism. This isn't directed towards MAN...I haven't liked the bioactive peptide advertising since Bio Gro several months ago. And that's nothing against Isatori either...it's just tough for me to say nothing when what I learn from bright minds, not in forums but real PhDs, goes against an advertising claim. But I'll be more open minded from now on and let the people decide what works. Anyone can "try" something, but you truly make your vote when you make a repeat purchase. So that is indeed what I'll follow
    I agree with this. My vote is also 4 tubs deep now into Bio Gro since the first tub impressed me quite a bit. LoL. PF3 might get my votes as well if my first curiosity purchase turns out to be positive. The joy of trying out new supplements.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I suppose ill play nicer in the future. Lets not forget though, that some of the post productive discussions have come out of healthy skepticism. This isn't directed towards MAN...I haven't liked the bioactive peptide advertising since Bio Gro several months ago. And that's nothing against Isatori either...it's just tough for me to say nothing when what I learn from bright minds, not in forums but real PhDs, goes against an advertising claim. But I'll be more open minded from now on and let the people decide what works. Anyone can "try" something, but you truly make your vote when you make a repeat purchase. So that is indeed what I'll follow
    Hoping not to get a banning here... many sites am I member on BB- anit-age- general health most people on are all from Europe taking themselves on the so seriously making fun of American doctors as they are not know which of the ends is up, on about American sites like here about only shilling but they are missing on the boat when it comes to being yourself and having some little fun. So hoping coop nor others will lose on the desire for seeking out truth even to taking a hit on the popularity charts.
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    Its not about being nicer, its just acknowledging that for the most part, we all got into this for the same reason (or slight variations). Most of the companies here don't have huge ad budgets. They don't blanket the magazines. They started from people working towards a goal...usually one guy, not out to "trick you" into buying something.

    I just think we all have more in common that we think and I would rather new members feel welcomed and not afraid to ask something for fear they get ridiculed for not being up to date with the current literature. We need to mello out a bit and not think every company here is trying to suck the money out your wallet and take off running with it. I have talked to these people in the past 10 years and many are good people, trying to put out good products. Yes, there are bad apples, but most are not. I'm looking for a more positive, supportive and motivational membership. Its good for all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    it's just tough for me to say nothing when what I learn from bright minds, not in forums but real PhDs, goes against an advertising claim. But I'll be more open minded from now on and let the people decide what works.
    Having been in your position many years ago, I also found out several times they simply are wrong. Its an industry in which your PhD's and the intellectual community frowns upon.

    The reality is, there isn't a company out there that doesn't have questionable marketing. People take a leap of faith whether on the developer side or consumer side. Some more than others.



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  7. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    I agree with this. My vote is also 4 tubs deep now into Bio Gro since the first tub impressed me quite a bit. LoL. PF3 might get my votes as well if my first curiosity purchase turns out to be positive. The joy of trying out new supplements.
    Especially at an introductory price. If the feedback gets better, you'll regret having to pay a higher price for it!
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    Having been in your position many years ago, I also found out several times they simply are wrong. Its an industry in which your PhD's and the intellectual community frowns upon.

    The reality is, there isn't a company out there that doesn't have questionable marketing. People take a leap of faith whether on the developer side or consumer side. Some more than others.
    the phd's should be more concerned with all of the recalls in the pharma industry, imo.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  9. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I suppose ill play nicer in the future. Lets not forget though, that some of the post productive discussions have come out of healthy skepticism. This isn't directed towards MAN...I haven't liked the bioactive peptide advertising since Bio Gro several months ago. And that's nothing against Isatori either...it's just tough for me to say nothing when what I learn from bright minds, not in forums but real PhDs, goes against an advertising claim. But I'll be more open minded from now on and let the people decide what works. Anyone can "try" something, but you truly make your vote when you make a repeat purchase. So that is indeed what I'll follow
    That's the nice Cybear I know and wuv <3 , now send me nudes and the cycle of pessimism will be over! You know, good karma and all that going around !
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    the phd's should be more concerned with all of the recalls in the pharma industry, imo.
    Haha nice I love when people bring irrelevant topics into conversation in attempt to prove a point. That steroidal AI you have a boner for started out in pharma. I have nothing vested in that industry either I trust them as much as our government.

    The supplement industry is also taking some heat too for spiked products and has recalls as well so I'm not sure what point you are trying to convey.

    I think the negativity is deserved honestly. Companies are spending more money on marketing than ever and are constantly trying to one up each other and this is the root of the negativity. Companies are making more absurd claims than ever before and have practically no evidence to support their claims. People spend a lot of money thinking they will reap the benefits of the next great product and are constantly let down, not always but the majority of the time. Skepticism is necessary for growth and without it I would have blown way too much money on BS. Companies are making bolder claims that the supplements they sell can just not hold up to and people are getting discouraged which in turn breeds negativity. It isn't enough to stop people to keep looking for that magic pill but the smarter people on this board realize that. We are consuming things now which will impact our health now and in the future, sorry if I want a little evidence or science backing it, sorry if I'm cautiously optimistic, sorry I'm not ignorant enough to trust every word a salesmen spews from his mouth which is then relayed by reps.

  11. waiting to see this introductory price :P If its low enough I might try, need to be able to compare bio gro to something
    Always willing to learn :D

  12. Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post
    Haha nice I love when people bring irrelevant topics into conversation in attempt to prove a point. That steroidal AI you have a boner for started out in pharma. I have nothing vested in that industry either I trust them as much as our government.

    The supplement industry is also taking some heat too for spiked products and has recalls as well so I'm not sure what point you are trying to convey.

    I think the negativity is deserved honestly. Companies are spending more money on marketing than ever and are constantly trying to one up each other and this is the root of the negativity. Companies are making more absurd claims than ever before and have practically no evidence to support their claims. People spend a lot of money thinking they will reap the benefits of the next great product and are constantly let down, not always but the majority of the time. Skepticism is necessary for growth and without it I would have blown way too much money on BS. Companies are making bolder claims that the supplements they sell can just not hold up to and people are getting discouraged which in turn breeds negativity. It isn't enough to stop people to keep looking for that magic pill but the smarter people on this board realize that. We are consuming things now which will impact our health now and in the future, sorry if I want a little evidence or science backing it, sorry if I'm cautiously optimistic, sorry I'm not ignorant enough to trust every word a salesmen spews from his mouth which is then relayed by reps.
    You've been around for a while bro. I think what @Admin, and some of us, referred to is not directly the skepticism (in the light of negativism, which it really isn't) but the negativism that has taken a dark cloud over AM where members are shunning one another, or acting like detectives to find who posted what, when or where or even why...I guess AM used to be more welcoming before, at least it was when I joined.

    Now one can't see a simple question like :

    "I'm taking Glutamine , Creatine and BCAA's pre and post workout! But I loose muscle by the time i wake up, how much more glutamine and bcaas should I take!? I already take 10g of creatine!"

    That instead of being nice enough and explaining why scientifically Glutamine is useless, pointless and a wallet-leaning supplement, in NICE and LAYMANS terms
    they will shun him for using it , or for taking bcaa's of not a particular brand or dosage at the appropriate times...Hell even I made that mistake some months ago, but I remember my much older posts where I would go on to write like 3 parragrahps being nice and trying to explain and recommend something scientifically , empirically and realistically better...but now idk, it just feels different. I guess we should all remember we don't know it all, and we can always learn something new or be willing to help someone learn something new.

    Which of us hasn't ever taken a supplement without any scientific backing or anything of the like , and still got benefits from it? Hell I know peeps that took Tribulus from USP or anyone else and swear their test went up and aggression too without any bloods, but the motivational value of it, pushed them to go even harder, get stricter diets to make it worth the buy, and to achieve their goals. That's what I think admin mentioned before...I know when I took Glutamine a long time ago, I could swear I recovered faster. Even if I didn't, if it was placebo, did it not help? It did ! We should all remember we are not IFBB or USAPL pro's (well some here are USAPL or any other PL federation pro's hehe). And even if we were...we should help people strive and keep at it so they can reach any of us (IF WE WERE) and surpass us...that's what AM was , is and should always be about....
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    .I know when I took Glutamine a long time ago, I could swear I recovered faster. Even if I didn't, if it was placebo, did it not help? It did ! .
    I love Celorza is too funny plus entertaining but with some philosophical thrown in on the mix lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post
    Haha nice I love when people bring irrelevant topics into conversation in attempt to prove a point. That steroidal AI you have a boner for started out in pharma. I have nothing vested in that industry either I trust them as much as our government.

    The supplement industry is also taking some heat too for spiked products and has recalls as well so I'm not sure what point you are trying to convey.

    I think the negativity is deserved honestly. Companies are spending more money on marketing than ever and are constantly trying to one up each other and this is the root of the negativity. Companies are making more absurd claims than ever before and have practically no evidence to support their claims. People spend a lot of money thinking they will reap the benefits of the next great product and are constantly let down, not always but the majority of the time. Skepticism is necessary for growth and without it I would have blown way too much money on BS. Companies are making bolder claims that the supplements they sell can just not hold up to and people are getting discouraged which in turn breeds negativity. It isn't enough to stop people to keep looking for that magic pill but the smarter people on this board realize that. We are consuming things now which will impact our health now and in the future, sorry if I want a little evidence or science backing it, sorry if I'm cautiously optimistic, sorry I'm not ignorant enough to trust every word a salesmen spews from his mouth which is then relayed by reps.
    Actually companies are spending less on marketing and looking more towards online than ever. Its cheaper and more effective IMO.

    What you describe isn't anything different than when PA and Bill L used to go at it on bb.com. What you have now is not owners going at it, but reps...

    If you actually think its worse now than it was 5-10-15 years ago, then you weren't around. You just see some high profile cases and think thats the industry at large....and its not.

    The reps will look back 5-10 years form now and realize how much time they spent fighting over.....supplements....and realize just how much energy they wasted.



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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    The reps will look back 5-10 years form now and realize how much time they spent fighting over.....supplements....and realize just how much energy they wasted.
    Or perhaps will they be reliving their days of glory when some great battles were they having
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    Or perhaps will they be reliving their days of glory when some great battles were they having
    No, they won't..especially the ones that get sued for what they post on a forum.



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  17. Lol all the brain power in here makes me realize how little I know haha
    Why not zoidberg?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    No, they won't..especially the ones that get sued for what they post on a forum.
    my wife is a lawyer so having it up to there with her relating to me the stories on her day I will not want to be hearing more on that one for now I hope.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Never mind, it's the same spiel as Bio-gro...active IGF-1 and other growth factors and peptides. But these peptides all get hydrolyzed in the gut and are too large for jejunel transporters, so most of it will be absorbed and broken down into...2.6g of amino acids. The exceptions are neonates, people with Crohn's disease, and marathon runners, all of which have either leaky guts or severe immunological deficits


    Could you explain further for people with Crohn's disease please?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post

    Having been in your position many years ago, I also found out several times they simply are wrong. Its an industry in which your PhD's and the intellectual community frowns upon.

    The reality is, there isn't a company out there that doesn't have questionable marketing. People take a leap of faith whether on the developer side or consumer side. Some more than others.
    Amen admin. I can tell when you're off cycle because you're logical and loving

  21. Quote Originally Posted by hardwork25 View Post

    Could you explain further for people with Crohn's disease please?
    In Crohn's disease, tight junctions are faulty or absent, resulting in flux of large molecules that normally aren't absorbed by enterocytes. This is not a good thing

  22. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    In Crohn's disease, tight junctions are faulty or absent, resulting in flux of large molecules that normally aren't absorbed by enterocytes. This is not a good thing
    coop saves Americas some ten millions a year on rooting out some issues before heading on for the doctors.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    coop saves Americas some ten millions a year on rooting out some issues before heading on for the doctors.
    No medical advice was given this day

  24. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Amen admin. I can tell when you're off cycle because you're logical and loving
    My anus...i mean account tickets still remember when he was last on cycle !
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  25. This product will be worthless.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Amen admin. I can tell when you're off cycle because you're logical and loving
    I laughed.

  27. @Celorza, you compete USAPL? (I wonder mostly because you specifically mentioned USAPL)

    I remember, back in the day, you had just started PLing but you don't seem to keep logs anymore so I don't know if you still do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Amen admin. I can tell when you're off cycle because you're logical and loving

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  29. Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post

    Kids are humbling
    You recently had kids?

    For some reason, I always assumed you have had children for a good while....

  30. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    In Crohn's disease, tight junctions are faulty or absent, resulting in flux of large molecules that normally aren't absorbed by enterocytes. This is not a good thing


    Yes def not a good thing. I have Crohn's. lol. Any thoughts on what supps help with barrier function and mucosal integrity?
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